I’m in awe of the Queen

[Nahhh]

I’m no royalist, I dislike the fawning, particularly towards younger members of the family. Somehow I find myself watching Trooping the Colour and I can’t help but be impressed by the Queen.

She’s 95, very recently widowed following 70 odd years of marriage. She’s just got back from Cornwall and is again on active duty, enjoying this event. I know she’s lived an incredibly pampered life with the best health care, etc. I’m just amazed by her sense of duty and her strength.

'He does not look at all frail, just slim unlike Boris Johnson and Trump who are both fat.'

Boris looked pretty fit when he went swimming the other day. And he jogs regularly.
Can't see Trump doing either of those things.

@Roussette

Just don't get why they have to come up on this thread. It's just like any opportunity to knock Harry & Meghan with daft monikers and side swipes.

Apart from the Queen, perhaps this thread can rise above it too.

But you don't get why they 'have to come up' on any thread, Roussette. However, we're in the 'royal family' section and people are expressing opinions on them (as you did with the Queen). It's not as if they've been shoehorned into a thread about knitting or something completely unrelated.

You evidently didn't feel the need to 'rise above' posting your disagreement with the tenor of the OP here. I said earlier that disagreement should IMO be allowed, on all royal personnel.

But you don't get why they 'have to come up' on any thread, Roussette

I don't think so

Not sure I've particularly said that before? Wracking my brains here...

If I bring up Prince Andrew on any thread on a Royal, I'm told incessantly 'we're not talking about him'. and 'why do you keep bringing up Andrew'.
I'll just carry on in the future!
Isn't that the same?

@JaniieJones

'Also, wasn't the James Bond joke lovely'

That was funny. She does seem to try to connect with people.

How funny that Biden said she reminded him of his dm, not sure of age difference but he doesn't look any younger and seems like he could be knocked over with a feather.

thanks, you said better than me.

@Viviennemary

I thoughg it was a little bit cheeky of Biden saying she reminded him of his mother. He's no spring chicken himself and looks really frail. Surprised he's up to the job of being President.

agree.

He may be fit but he looks like a gust of wind would send him flying. Not sure why some are taking great offence at this fact.

i dont understand either.

@ApplyWithin

I think he had a bloody nerve saying HM reminded him of his mother! The man’s pushing 80 himself! Was it an attempt to make himself appear younger? I’ve nothing against him but I thought that was a very impolite comment.

agree.

Apparently Biden has just nearly punched the Turkish president in the nose during a very awkward fist bump.

To be fair to Biden, I don’t think he meant to be a derogatory comment on any way. I think he meant that the Queen reminded him of his mother in spirit

I agree.

He said what he did with affection.

@Viviennemary

Apparently Biden has just nearly punched the Turkish president in the nose during a very awkward fist bump.

Oh that's funny

I don't think Biden meant it offensively, he's an affectionate sort by nature and was overexcited about meeting the Queen.

Do people really think that if someone reminds you of your mother it’s solely because they’re old?

What a very odd interpretation.

I took it to mean the Queen exhibits qualities he associated with his mother. Surely that’s the more likely meaning? Not the very literal ‘one old lady reminds me of another’?

My mother is a month older than the Queen, still looking after herself, living alone in a neat little bungalow. Although people always put the Queen's health down to a life of privilege I think she has the values of her generation. My mother certainly has a strong ethos of service (in her case many years devoted to Scouting and Guiding) and a definite determination not to 'give in'. I think those values were instilled in that generation.

@Viviennemary

Apparently Biden has just nearly punched the Turkish president in the nose during a very awkward fist bump.

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather

My mother is a month older than the Queen, still looking after herself, living alone in a neat little bungalow. Although people always put the Queen's health down to a life of privilege I think she has the values of her generation. My mother certainly has a strong ethos of service (in her case many years devoted to Scouting and Guiding) and a definite determination not to 'give in'. I think those values were instilled in that generation.

Yes I agree.

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather

My mother is a month older than the Queen, still looking after herself, living alone in a neat little bungalow. Although people always put the Queen's health down to a life of privilege I think she has the values of her generation. My mother certainly has a strong ethos of service (in her case many years devoted to Scouting and Guiding) and a definite determination not to 'give in'. I think those values were instilled in that generation.

Ah so my family member who died just didn’t have a strong enough ‘ethos’ like your mother? must tell anyone who is in poor health now that they can cure themselves and live a long healthy and independent life if they just adopt the ethos of @Gladimnotcampinginthisweather mother

That is not what I said alwayswithhope. As it happens her sister died of cancer at 42, her brother also of cancer in his early sixties. I was not attributing her long life to her values, just commenting that the values of that generation are much the same as the Queen's.

With all due respect, devotion to scouting and being Queen because god told you, are commendable (thank fuck that God communicated to the right person and not Joe down the street who would be directed to NHS for having a messiah complex if he proclaimed that God wanted him to be King)

But that doesn’t mean that society is somehow less promising now because people don’t want to devote their lives to scouts and royalty. Here are some examples of young people with passion, doing amazing work with grit and determination www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5463721/most-influential-teens-2018/%3Famp%3Dtrue

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather My mother is a month older than the Queen, still looking after herself, living alone in a neat little bungalow. Although people always put the Queen's health down to a life of privilege I think she has the values of her generation.

So what did you mean by this? You made a direct comparisons to your mothers health and her values and then the queen health and her values.

Great medical care as soon as you need it must be wonderful. But my main fear in old age is dementia. My mother had it for two years before she died. No treatment is possible. At the end she was different person. It took me a long time to mourn her death and I still feel guilty about that.

Although people always put the Queen's health down to a life of privilege I think she has the values of her generation.

So if the queen's long healthy life is due to her values, that means anyone who gets ill or dies young lacks the values of the queen. Can you not comprehend how breathtakingly stupid and offensive that is?

I don't think that's what the PP meant.

alwayswithhope
HeadNorth
Clearly didn't express myself very well.

It wasn’t and if they took a moment to reflect I’m sure they would understand.

Health is down to good fortune.

Health is not down to privilege or riches or wealth. It may help you get treatment but some things can’t be treated. Or can be managed but not cured.

Values will help some glory on even if they don’t want to or really feel able to (not necessarily health related). But doesn’t link to health.

The PP didn’t mean or didn’t say it applied to everyone. She was talking about her mam. Just her mam. And said that her values have helped her glory on.

No more. No less.

Sorry glad

I didn’t mean to xpost and didn’t mean to speak on your behalf.

Despite her very pampered life she has and does work very hard. She is absolutely amazing for a 95 year old and she still wears heels and doesn’t use a stick or Zimmer frame ! She has obviously looked after herself.