I’m in awe of the Queen

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I’m no royalist, I dislike the fawning, particularly towards younger members of the family. Somehow I find myself watching Trooping the Colour and I can’t help but be impressed by the Queen.

She’s 95, very recently widowed following 70 odd years of marriage. She’s just got back from Cornwall and is again on active duty, enjoying this event. I know she’s lived an incredibly pampered life with the best health care, etc. I’m just amazed by her sense of duty and her strength.

@OutwiththeOutCrowd

Saying 'Are you supposed to be looking as if you’re enjoying yourself?' at the photo call for the G7 leaders was just the sort of thing Prince Philip would have done.

The Queen seemed to fit in with my theory that people often take on some of the qualities of those they have loved after they pass away.

(Hope that's not too 'woo' for the Royal Family board!)

I had exactly the same thought!

@esterwin

So standing for longer than most 95 year olds can manage and looking cheerful. That sums up this thread.

🤣 That sums up 95% of British people I should think. "...but but look at how smiley she/he is"; "look how well dressed and poised and physically strong and attractive he/she is" are things often said to absolve individuals of criticism and provide a reasoning for why someone should be held in such high esteem.

Most people, judging by this thread too, and the various threads floating around on the Royal Family sub forum, are quite easily led by the media and I think it is a measure of the intellect of a person who can cast a critical eye over anything published by the media, see beyond photojournalism and not fall into the trap of sycophancy for someone who ultimately is just a figurehead.

I would say most 90 year olds today have worked far harder than the queen with less than 1% of her plaudits, recognition and wealth. I like and respect the queen. I however don't believe she is worthy of more liking and respect than say my grandparents.

Finally, I don't believe that anyone should ever dictate or make it such that people curtsy to them, especially in the twenty first century. I would certainly feel embarrassed to have someone curtsy to me!

@Roussette

Well..... is it 70 or 80 years she's been on the throne? No, we won't see similar again.

I wouldn't be rude, she's a 95 year old woman who has dedicated herself to the job.
I still think she should've passed it on to Charles 20 years ago. It would mean that he could then have done 20 years, and he could perhaps be passing it on to William when the Queen dies.

Just random musings from me.

Our Monarchy just seems so outdated and stuffy in comparison.

But you were rude. Many of us recognise your lack of love and loyalty for the Royal Family, and that is obviously your decision, which I fully respect. But on this thread honouring a recently widowed woman of 95, who is still doing her best, I think it reflects badly on you.

@alwayswithhope

This loss of her husband - hadn’t Phillip retired years ago and spent his time living in a cottage off sandringham ? He was hardly her constant companion and didn’t he have affairs too? It didn’t seem to me to be a marriage to look up to or to be a loving relationship.

Philip was a workshy so-and-so who retired at 95!

Rumours of affairs but no evidence. They had lived together at Windsor throughout Covid, which I hope gives her some comfort.

@ajandjjmum

Would you link me to where I was rude about the Queen? I have not been. Not once.
Quite the opposite in fact. Find me my rudeness please.

I am talking about the 'institution' and modernisation, and the line of succession. My prerogative on a discussion forum and me saying stuff like That is not doing down her contribution or her dedication to her role

I think it reflects badly on you to make this false accusation to me, to be frank.

Here - as quoted -
Our Monarchy just seems so outdated and stuffy in comparison

So that's me being rude about the Queen? I think not.

I talked about handing over, and what happened in Espana, and how it would've been good for Charles to have a chance etc.

If you wish to take that as 'being rude about the Queen' that's up to you.

No idea why you have singled me out, there's far more rudeness about the Queen on here but not from me. But hey ho... it's me you would prefer to pick up on.

I should also add that the King in Spain (who you were suggesting that HM should follow) abdicated due to some sort of financial misconduct - not really out of choice.

It would just be nice to have one thread where people just respect the view of the many who support the Queen, particularly when you can see her still doing what she can, after all the shit she's gone through recently. I'm not looking to argue - just speaking as a compassionate human being - and thinking credit where credit's due.

I agree Roussette - there are far ruder comments. But I responded to you as I read your comment and many other blender into one. Be flattered that I cared enough!

I know that. If you read my post, I said that about Juan Carlos.

I can't be bothered to argue with you. I have not said anything rude about the Queen.
Go and pick on someone else.

aj I'd offer you a but it is a school day tomorrow

She reminds me of my grandmum in some ways.

No, I’m not in awe of her. But I’d love to hear her stories about the past (my own grandma had an amazing career and was a real feminist)

And seeing the Queen work at 95 has changed my views of aging.

When I am her age, science might mean we live till a hundred and twenty.

So I no longer think I’m “too old” for this or that. It is a wonderful feeling

Thanks Queen!

It would just be nice to have one thread where people just respect the view of the many who support the Queen

Nope, you don't control Mumsnet and get to dictate which threads require a hive mind. Just as many do not support the queen, for reasons set out in this thread (avoidance of tax, meddling wth legislation,lobbying so she doesn't have to reveal her wealth, avoiding equality legislation etc etc). Been healthy at 95 is hardly an achievement - it starts to get a bit disablist when you consider robust health deserving of adultation.

@HeadNorth

It would just be nice to have one thread where people just respect the view of the many who support the Queen

Nope, you don't control Mumsnet and get to dictate which threads require a hive mind. Just as many do not support the queen, for reasons set out in this thread (avoidance of tax, meddling wth legislation,lobbying so she doesn't have to reveal her wealth, avoiding equality legislation etc etc). Been healthy at 95 is hardly an achievement - it starts to get a bit disablist when you consider robust health deserving of adultation.

No threads should require a hive mind. I'm in support of people saying what they want within Talk guidelines. So the OP admires the Queen. People don't have to agree. I do think though that that should apply on all royal threads and to all ex royal personnel, and then we can agree to disagree instead of the constant 'why must you be so rude about him / her/ them?' People have different views, learn to live with it.

I loved the floral print dress she wore today when meeting Joe Biden.

I did notice that all of the powerful leaders at the G7 seemed to be very keen to be seen hob-nobbing with the Royal Family - except for Joe Biden and his wife who - on the clip I saw - seemed to hold back. I suppose if you're having tea a couple of days later, you can get your photos then!

I don’t think anyone is thinks her health is deserving of adulation in itself. Many posters have recognised that she is lucky to be healthy and that she has had the best care. What I think people are reflecting on is that she has lived a long and interesting life and has fulfilled her duty as she sees it in an uncomplaining fashion. Many posters are admiring these personal qualities of hers, regardless of how they feel about the monarchy itself.

@Gorgeouslilgirl

And seeing the Queen work at 95 has changed my views of aging.

When I am her age, science might mean we live till a hundred and twenty.

So I no longer think I’m “too old” for this or that. It is a wonderful feeling

Thanks Queen!

Unfortunately her health is out of reach of us mere mortals @Gorgeouslilgirl. She is a testament of how zero money worries or stress around paying bills/mortgage, a hands off approach to raising children with no sleepless nights or over tiredness, dictating your own schedule, excellent health care and a lavish lifestyle in a spacious home can lead to a long and healthy life.

I think the Queen also gets her longevity from her mother. Her father died at 56.

I do think many of us will live a long life with science. We may not get that level of care, but still, lots of innovation. Wasn’t there a new company recently which was experimenting with ways to increase longevity? And I think early trials were positive.

I don’t see the point in “duty” and “uncomplaining”. Traditionally that is seen as a desirable trait in women. To uphold the patriarchy.

I’m all for following one’s passion and definitely calling out injustice! That’s the privilege of being free in a democracy.

I really respect her. My.mother is 86 and does quite well but nowhere near as fit as HM is. Still walking without a stick and standing at events, even though probably in some discomforts.
Small wonder that Military Personnel, even the biggest, toughest, hardened fighters refer to her affectionately as The Boss.

@dementedma

I really respect her. My.mother is 86 and does quite well but nowhere near as fit as HM is. Still walking without a stick and standing at events, even though probably in some discomforts. Small wonder that Military Personnel, even the biggest, toughest, hardened fighters refer to her affectionately as The Boss.

No doubt your mother would also be as fit as the queen if she had had such a pampered lifestyle.

Perhaps what I meant was she has done her job really well. Duty in terms of fulfilling her ordained role as Queen seems to be very important to her. I don’t see it as upholding the patriarchy. She is definitely the Boss as pp said.

I do wonder what it is like to live without ever having to worry about your health or treatment. To not wait for a cataract op, or a knee or hip replacement, or get yourself to other worrying treatments, or be on a waiting list. Or to have raging toothache and not know what to do because your appointment isn't for 2 days (been there).

I am not criticising the Queen. That's her life.
Just saying to know that the Doctor is probably living in your house lol and he just pops to see you in 5 minutes. Must be weirdly wonderful. And so reassuring.