Harry to sue BBC

[Viviennemary]

I just read Harry is going to sue the BBC for announcing the Queen wasn't consulted over the name Lilibet. They said she was told of their plans . Maybe told isnt quite the same as consulted. When is this all going to end. Seems to be getting worse instead of improving.

Harry and Meghan are vulgar.

@Toilenstripes

It’s time courtiers stopped lying.

And the BBC are a bastion of honesty and integrity? Hmm….I wonder if the courtiers make a habit of forging receipts for an abortion?

@Dongdingdong

Carole is a derivative of Charles, as is Charlotte.

Carole sounds nothing like the other two, but fair enough.

Carlos, Carl and Karl are all forms of Charles.

Anything dating from the reigns of Charles I or II is described as “Carolinian”, for example.

@June2021

Have they really registered the child's name as a 'brand' - wow that's so odd.

Yes this isn't actually too unusual and probably the most unsurprising part of the story. "Cybersquatting" is very common where people register social media accounts using famous names and expect to be paid to release them. However owners of the registered trademark can usually get the platform to release the names for them with some legal action (of which H&M are certainly no strangers!)

@Viviennemary You are jumping the gun.

The Mail says he 'threatens' to sue. Very different from doing it.

I think you need to change your subject line.

@Normandy144

I was really disappointed the BBC ran with this story. Who cares whether she was or wasn't consulted. It's their child to name, not any one else's (as people on Mumsnet frequently like to point out!) It just felt like another dig at Harry and Meghan to be honest. They can't win.

They’d do better to stop reacting, though.

Save the firepower for the really important stuff.

It feels like they are trolling the RF now. Of all the names they could have chosen this is probably the only one that would cause controversy or hurt to the family- maybe apart from 'Wallis'.

OMG can you imagine?!

@DogsSausages

Where is this being reported, cant see anything anywhere.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57408163

Thanks, nothing about being sued though or am I missing something obvious,

Oh dear, I thought the baby had been called Lilliput. Evidently, I need to take more interest in this subject.

I await my court summons.

Good on him! It's high time the scum media were held to account, even though I thought the BBC were one of the good ones. I was clearly wrong. :(

Very tacky choice of name IMO, although thank goodness they didn't choose a Yoooneeek spelling, such as Lillie-Bette

It feels like [H&M] are trolling the RF now. Of all the names they could have chosen this is probably the only one that would cause controversy or hurt to the family

I agree. It is the oddest choice of name imaginable. Purposely controversial and potentially rude and hurtful.

The BBC didn’t say that at all. The bit I saw at lunchtime was a royal correspondent saying Harry said he had consulted and a royal source said they hadn’t

My take is he did ask if they could call the baby after her, but didn’t clarify it would not be Elizabeth, but a personal nickname used by the Queens father and husband

Still now they are taking maternity/paternity leave for 20 weeks hopefully we will hear a lot less from them

@June2021

Have they really registered the child's name as a 'brand' - wow that's so odd.

If they hadn't, someone else would have done within seconds of the announcement of the name and it could have been used for any sort of purpose, possibly unpleasant.

@ACPC

Oh and I agree this is another distraction from Andrew.

I reckon that as soon as the queen has gone the RF (or 'senior royals' as they like to call themselves) will throw Andrew to the dogs. Not a lot of love lost between Charles and Andrew. (Rows over titles and royal protection for his daughters for a start. ) His mum has always protected him, but once she's gone....

@RickiTarr

Is that from a reputable source?

It doesn’t seem a great idea. How can you grow up in that institution and still come out with the notion that litigating every small story is the way to handle the media?

Assuming that he did consult the Queen about the name but the BBC had convinced millions of readers otherwise, does that really constitute major harm?

He doesn’t seem to know how to pick his battles.

I think it's because he grew up in that institution that he knows how toxic a lie can be, and how the firm never stood up against lies, and as they say, a lie can travel half way around the world before the truth even gets a chance to get it's shoes on. We know this from the 'Meghan made Kate cry' lie.

I think it is precisely because of his growing up in it that he is determined to be the one to break the cycle.

Still now they are taking maternity/paternity leave for 20 weeks hopefully we will hear a lot less from them

From your lips to god’s ears. 🙄

Intrinsically I am a royalist (although a fairly lukewarm one). I was delighted that MM joined the RF and it all seemed such a wonderful, positive thing. I felt really sad that they felt they could no longer continue, and that it was a huge shame that the RF and they couldn't work out a compromise of some sort.
Over time, my opinion changed and now, although I really wish H and M every joy and happiness, I would be very happy to never hear from them again. Whatever they are doing or saying seems to lead to unhappiness, controversy, misery for others and dissatisfaction for themselves. I think H is mentally quite unwell, that whatever therapeutic route or lifestyle choices they are making don't seem to be making a constructive difference, and that the situation will never heal whilst he feels so persecuted. Everything seems like a battle for them and they are just waiting to pounce on the next thing to take a stance over which, as a PP has said, must be exhausting.

I wonder what drama will emerge from Harry and Meghan in a fortnight once this dies down.

For a couple who want to be independent, separate from the monarchy, have more of a private life, doing their own thing, they're doing a rather fine job of milking royal connections and creating drama that's more inkeeping with reality TV than influential philanthropists.

There was a very scathing piece on the Editorial page of The Times yesterday on this, so maybe he will 'sue' the Times too.

It's a disgrace IMO.

It was her pet name used by her closest family. It was what Philip called her [maybe they ought to have chosen 'Cabbage' which is evidently her other nickname for her.]

Using a nickname which your recently deceased husband called you for 70 years is beyond crass.

I don't blame them for fighting back against the media. There have been thousands, if not millions, of vile articles written about them and the media have made a lot of money while writing them. Why should they get to profit from writing rubbish?

I don't think this particular battle is a good one though, like PP have said it would mean dragging the queen into it.

I bet it'll have been a convo something like this:

Harry: "...and we hope to name her Lilibet in your honour..."

Queen "O, I see"

Harry has chosen to interpret it as supportive, but most people wouldn't really call that a consultation or a request for permission.

I’m sure “recollections may vary”

Was it, “Granny, would it be all right if we call the baby Lillibet?”
Or was it,
“Granny, can we name the baby after you?” (Queen may assume Elizabeth)
Or
“Granny, we’re calling her Lillibet, ok?” fait accompli

I would bet on the fair accompli phone call and the Queen taken by surprise

The BBC amended their report to include Harry's claim that he did ask, but have also kept in the part that said he didn't as they were advised by their source. The change came after Harry issued a letter via Shillings to the BBC this morning.