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Harry to sue BBC

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Viviennemary · 09/06/2021 12:44

I just read Harry is going to sue the BBC for announcing the Queen wasn't consulted over the name Lilibet. They said she was told of their plans . Maybe told isnt quite the same as consulted. When is this all going to end. Seems to be getting worse instead of improving.

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smilesy · 09/06/2021 13:36

@TheFairyCaravan. I think I read that “Charlotte” was meant to be some sort of tribute to both Charles and Carole, and Elizabeth is also Carole’s middle name, so I think they did include her 🤷‍♀️

IronTeeth · 09/06/2021 13:37

@TheFairyCaravan

While her actual living grandmother, who lives nearby and sees her all the time, didn't get a look in in the naming process. Poor Doria.

Funny how no one said “poor Carole” when Princess Charlotte had Elizabeth and Diana in her name too, wasn’t it?

This with bells on!

Why do posters continue to give H&M mindspace, when they obviously hate them so much?

User3253465621 · 09/06/2021 13:37

@Timetopoeet

I'm not sure, it's seems sad that the baby has been named after someone she'll most likely barely ever see in her life.
Call me cynical but I think the name is more of a lifelong clout thing and nothing to do with family. It's obvious that both kids will never have any sort of meaningful relationship with their British relatives however H&M obviously love the royal element, as shown by them continuing to use their own titles for money-making ventures.

Imagine Lilibet at 26, schmoozing with A-listers at an LA party and being able to tell some multimillionaire film producer who she was named after. Meghan wanted to set her up for life that's how showbiz and the big money industry works. Granted, there IS something quite satisfying about a mixed-race girl carrying the name of the Queen of England and maybe that was part of the logic behind it.

antsy · 09/06/2021 13:37

If they use that brand that is not okay.
If they just register it to stop others using it that is fine.
Time will tell.

museumum · 09/06/2021 13:38

I actually on this one feel that the palace / queen / bbc are all being really nasty.

Can you imagine if you named your child after their grandparent and instead of 'congratulations how lovely' everybody instead weighed in with 'but did you ask her permission?' 'and if you did, did she feel she had to say yes?' it's mean and petty. it's an honour to have a child named after you, any child, you don't get to 'give permission'.

MaloInAnAppleTree · 09/06/2021 13:38

This could be really nasty if it ever got to court (seems unlikely). The BBC seem to be standing firmly by their story which to me implies that HMQ wanted them to run it.

The name is completely fine if she’s happy with it and not fine if she’s not happy - I’ve been neutral because we had no way of knowing which was the case, but it’s starting to look like she’s not.

antsy · 09/06/2021 13:38

Yes it is very nasty of the Queen.

User27aw · 09/06/2021 13:39

[quote smilesy]@TheFairyCaravan. I think I read that “Charlotte” was meant to be some sort of tribute to both Charles and Carole, and Elizabeth is also Carole’s middle name, so I think they did include her 🤷‍♀️[/quote]
Yes i think the names Carole Charlotte and Charles are derived from one another in some way not sure which way round

VeilofWinterFog · 09/06/2021 13:39

It feels like they are trolling the RF now. Of all the names they could have chosen this is probably the only one that would cause controversy or hurt to the family- maybe apart from 'Wallis'.

There is a sentimentality and 'ownership' to a nickname, especially such an intimate and historic one such as this, that does not exist within a given name itself. It is so deeply personal. A family nickname is wonderful gift and intimately bound with someone's history and identity. There is unique bond between the giver and recipient.

To take that name, particularly given the current family dynamic and use it as your child's given name is very provocative. They must know this. Then to attempt to copyright the name is just beyond. If feels like theft.

I think there is a lot of upset within the RF that has led to this statement to the BBC from a 'senior official'.

It will be very interesting to see if there is any official word from the Palace itself.

ittakes2 · 09/06/2021 13:40

Does this mean the Queen will be called to court as a witness??

smilesy · 09/06/2021 13:41

@museumum. Yes and no. It does seem petty on one level, but as pp said, HaM are blithely carrying on mud slinging and then all of a sudden, the Queen is their favourite and they name their child after her and maybe the Queen has had enough? They are careful to never actually say anything unpleasant about the Queen, but they don’t seem to have comprehended that in criticising the family in general, the buck stips with her as it were.

antsy · 09/06/2021 13:43

Then the Queen should have said do not use that name.

User3253465621 · 09/06/2021 13:44

@ittakes2

Does this mean the Queen will be called to court as a witness??
For some reason that reminds me of this Grin
Harry to sue BBC
Rinoachicken · 09/06/2021 13:44

@antsy

Yes it is very nasty of the Queen.
And your grandson trashing your parenting, the parenting of your dying husband, calling your daily racist and many other things, disclosing personal conversations that were held to be ‘private family’ conversations until they were sold to the highest bidder?

Sorry but I can forgive the queen saying enough, fuck you, have some of your own ‘truth’ see how you like it!

ChicChaos · 09/06/2021 13:45

I see this as a sign that even the Queen's patience has run out with Harry. I do not believe that the BBC would have run that story without a cast-iron source.

Even Omid-the-source-they-don't-speak-to didn't say they asked for permission, just that they rang the Queen first (what about Charles?) and wouldn't have 'used it without support'. What does he count as support? Does Omid ever fact-check what he's not told before he spouts it to the press or like Oprah, is he just the way of broadcasting it so H&M can blame someone else when it all goes wrong?

It must be a concern for the Royal Family to see Harry's unhappiness. But he can't keep blaming everyone else for it.

SunnySideDownBriefly · 09/06/2021 13:45

Is this a way for Harry to find out who the Senior Courtier is? Would the BBC have to disclose this to defend their statement?

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 09/06/2021 13:46

I just been diagnosed with a life-changing condition, broken my toe and not sure if I can pay my bills next month.

Why the FUCK would I worry about this?

Hallyup6 · 09/06/2021 13:47

They knew using this name was going to be controversial and there were any number of other names they could have picked. They've brought this on themselves so I have zero sympathy.

It makes the whole lot of them sound like a group of bickering teenagers.

ACPC · 09/06/2021 13:47

If the Queen did want this story out that's shocking! Megs has met her match....Grin
I was surprised they used a nickname but I thought calling her after the Queen was fine.

MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 09/06/2021 13:48

I don't blame him.

His wife has just given birth for goodness sake and still they pick away.

BillieSpain · 09/06/2021 13:48

They knew what they were doing. They have gone a step too far. But I think they wanted to, they have pushed and pushed and pushed and didn't like being ignored. Harry suing the BBC is laughable.

They look totally mad, the pair of them.

OccaChocca · 09/06/2021 13:50

For a couple who feel they have been treated badly by their family and want a quiet life, they are going about it in a very strange way.

There is nothing more than I would like than to never hear about them ever again.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 09/06/2021 13:50

I think so too veil

Naming their baby Elizabeth? Or Lili? Lovely.

A deeply personal endearment? When you have every intention of calling the baby a shortened name anyway?
Not so lovely.

They didn’t call Archie Archibald. Why not stick with Lili?

Because that wouldn’t have created yet another flurry of headlines and give a good poke the RF probably.

Too far this time I feel.

notalwaysalondoner · 09/06/2021 13:51

So ridiculous. The BBC published a balanced article quoting sources from both sides of the story, Harry threatens to sue…? How will he ever prove that the “palace source” didn’t tell the BBC that, or weren’t a good source? The BBC clearly presented it as a quote from a source, not fact. Why can’t Harry just concentrate on his family and rise above it, he must realise by now that the more he reacts the more press attention they get which is what they purportedly are trying to avoid by leaving official duties and moving to California. I just don’t understand how he and Meghan don’t realise that the best way to minimise press intrusion and false stories is to stop engaging (and also for their own mental health stop reading the press, which clearly they weren’t able to do while in the UK which seems the obvious solution to being so high profile)…

VolcanicEruption · 09/06/2021 13:51

Since the BBC is paid by license holders (us) this is not going to be popular.