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Harry to sue BBC

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Viviennemary · 09/06/2021 12:44

I just read Harry is going to sue the BBC for announcing the Queen wasn't consulted over the name Lilibet. They said she was told of their plans . Maybe told isnt quite the same as consulted. When is this all going to end. Seems to be getting worse instead of improving.

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RickiTarr · 09/06/2021 23:46

@Stroller15

What a joke. With this, I ask what would any reasonable person do. If I went around telling everyone my family is racist, my family set up is toxic etc etc, would I name my child my grandparent's nickname. A very personal nickname. It's not about asking for permission for but a name, it's about the intention and the impact of the action. I find it all quite cruel.
I think the turn in the road came when Harry criticised the way his dad was patented. Up until then being affectionate about the Queen sounded authentic, now it sounds manipulative.

”Suddenly I started to piece it together and go ‘OK, so this is where he went to school, this is what happened, I know this about his life, I also know that is connected to his parents so that means he’s treated me the way he was treated, so how can I change that for my own kids?’,”

paniniswapx3 · 09/06/2021 23:48

@Butteredtoast55

Intrinsically I am a royalist (although a fairly lukewarm one). I was delighted that MM joined the RF and it all seemed such a wonderful, positive thing. I felt really sad that they felt they could no longer continue, and that it was a huge shame that the RF and they couldn't work out a compromise of some sort. Over time, my opinion changed and now, although I really wish H and M every joy and happiness, I would be very happy to never hear from them again. Whatever they are doing or saying seems to lead to unhappiness, controversy, misery for others and dissatisfaction for themselves. I think H is mentally quite unwell, that whatever therapeutic route or lifestyle choices they are making don't seem to be making a constructive difference, and that the situation will never heal whilst he feels so persecuted. Everything seems like a battle for them and they are just waiting to pounce on the next thing to take a stance over which, as a PP has said, must be exhausting.
Completely agree with this also.
RickiTarr · 09/06/2021 23:48

@Unsure33

I wish Philip had called the queen Peachy Arse.
He more or less did. In public.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1161904/prince-philip-jokes-queen-elizabeth-ii-news-marriage-royal-family-news

mathanxiety · 09/06/2021 23:49

It’s as though he doesn’t understand that the courtiers speak on behalf of the Queen.

I'm sure he knows the courtiers only too well.

Alternista · 09/06/2021 23:50

I don’t think they asked the Queen’s permission. A big broadcaster like the BBC doesn’t bother issuing and standing by a story like this unless their source is cast iron.

Where Meghan goes, drama seems to follow. I fear Harry will ultimately end up alone and bitter tbh, but adults make their own choices I guess.

altamory · 09/06/2021 23:55

The BBC will have been told this by the palace. No one except the people involved know the truth.

Myleftfoot39 · 09/06/2021 23:58

I’m sick of Meghan and Harry. So much drama all the time. I think it would be better if they adopted the Queen’s stance of ‘don’t give rumours attention or credence’. Then it’s just here-say from others and people I feel would recognise it just as that - rumour.

They are in for a long road ahead if they are going to sue people constantly.

mathanxiety · 09/06/2021 23:59

@museumum
I agree.

If the courtier acted on orders, then shame on the RF. This isn't how you deal with a family rift in good faith. It's petty and undignified.

If the courtier went rogue, then the RF needs to deny what was said.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 10/06/2021 00:05

This isn't how you deal with a family rift in good faith. It's petty and undignified.

I think the same could be said of the shoe on the other foot. More so.

StormzyinaTCup · 10/06/2021 00:06

If the courtier acted on orders, then shame on the RF. This isn't how you deal with a family rift in good faith. It's petty and undignified.

The Queen doesn't have the benefit of having Oprah on speed dial which of course is a much more dignified way of sorting out a family rift.

altamory · 10/06/2021 00:06

This has always happened. Members of the family briefing against one another.

mathanxiety · 10/06/2021 00:08

The Queen doesn't have the benefit of having Oprah on speed dial which of course is a much more dignified way of sorting out a family rift.

So a case of 'He started it'?

This is school playground stuff you are excusing from the Head of the Church of England.

bluebell34567 · 10/06/2021 00:10

Up until then being affectionate about the Queen sounded authentic, now it sounds manipulative.

agree.

bluebell34567 · 10/06/2021 00:12

Whatever they are doing or saying seems to lead to unhappiness, controversy, misery for others and dissatisfaction for themselves.

i agree.

StormzyinaTCup · 10/06/2021 00:14

So a case of 'He started it'?

This is school playground stuff you are excusing from the Head of the Church of England.

Not at all, but the Queen has probably had enough, she is not superwoman. H&M are saying what they are saying safe in the knowledge that the RF will keep quiet. But maybe by the Queen biting back the pair might, and it's a big might, tone it down a bit.

BreakingtheIce · 10/06/2021 00:16

I can’t see a point ever being reached where the two of them are content. Just quiet and content and getting on with things without courting attention and controversy. That does not suggest they are actually happy with each other. Not really. It’s like they are throwing bombs all the time in order to cause chaos for their own amusement.

GrimDamnFanjo · 10/06/2021 00:26

@altamory

The BBC will have been told this by the palace. No one except the people involved know the truth.
Correct. I'm interested to know whether it's an official or unofficial source.
Sandra15 · 10/06/2021 00:33

@TheFairyCaravan

While her actual living grandmother, who lives nearby and sees her all the time, didn't get a look in in the naming process. Poor Doria.

Funny how no one said “poor Carole” when Princess Charlotte had Elizabeth and Diana in her name too, wasn’t it?

Carole's middle name is Elizabeth.
BreakingtheIce · 10/06/2021 00:34

I suspect there are a number of people close to the Queen who know how she really feels and are outraged on her behalf. I don’t believe for a minute she sanctioned anyone speaking out because she is obviously desperately trying to keep Harry onside. She won’t confirm or deny anything. Harry trying to sue just makes him look ridiculous.

altamory · 10/06/2021 00:40

I really do not think anyone close to the Queen, who wants to stay in that position, would speak out without the Queen's agreement.

Blossomtoes · 10/06/2021 00:42

@altamory

This has always happened. Members of the family briefing against one another.
Not in my life time. I was born in Coronation year.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/06/2021 00:48

@ACPC

If the Queen did want this story out that's shocking! Megs has met her match....Grin I was surprised they used a nickname but I thought calling her after the Queen was fine.
It's down to 'Megs' then is it?

Always the woman's fault... Burn the witch.

It's HIS grandmother and HIS mother's name.

If you take issue with them choosing those names it seems odd to mention 'Megs' and not Harry. Many other people do too, I wonder why.

How depressing.

altamory · 10/06/2021 00:56

@Blossomtoes
Diana and Charles
Royal Family and Fergie
Royal Family and Earl Spencer

Diana and Charles were the worst though with both constantly briefing against each other and giving television interviews.

HeronLanyon · 10/06/2021 01:01

I was surprised they chose that name and even wanted or thought to use it - even putting aside whether they ok it before or not.
I wasn’t aware of the name and use until Prince Philip’s funeral. I think I felt what a shame a very personal private aspect of TQ being used and not left to be her special sentimental name. I guess it could also be said how lovely it could be if, surely close to the end of her life, she knows it will continue.
It’s just so complex and fraught I’m astonished the name was even on the table I think.
Bloody hell what an awful load of drama and crap the RF have gone through (pretty much always).

Blossomtoes · 10/06/2021 01:03

Diana and Charles were estranged spouses. Sarah Ferguson briefed, the Royal family maintained dignified silence. Earl Spencer tore them to pieces at his sister’s funeral, they sat in stunned silence.

The Royal family just doesn’t do this stuff.