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Harry to sue BBC

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Viviennemary · 09/06/2021 12:44

I just read Harry is going to sue the BBC for announcing the Queen wasn't consulted over the name Lilibet. They said she was told of their plans . Maybe told isnt quite the same as consulted. When is this all going to end. Seems to be getting worse instead of improving.

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Wanttocry · 09/06/2021 16:06

@Samcro

palace sources......could be the cleaner.

there is much more serious stuff going on in the world.
I just heard on the news that there is going to be a wheatabix shortage...
THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Apologies, I think my toddler may be solely blame for any weetabix shortages. She loves it!
HeddaGarbled · 09/06/2021 16:07

Looks like the story has been taken off the BBC website.

Wanttocry · 09/06/2021 16:08

@HeddaGarbled

Looks like the story has been taken off the BBC website.
It’s still there on my bbc news app.
ElderMillennial · 09/06/2021 16:08

I think Harry and Meghan are causing trouble

the name Lilibet Diana was registered as a brand the day after the babys birth. Allegedly.

I don't know about this but I suppose it's possible they have registered the name in some way to prevent others cashing in on it.

Nanalisa60 · 09/06/2021 16:08

You would think they would just want to close the doors, or big electric gates in there case, and just ignore the rest of the world and enjoy there lovely baby’s for a few months.

But no they are starting yet another law suit!!

They just don’t stop, it must be so exhausting!!

HeddaGarbled · 09/06/2021 16:08

Oh no, sorry, ignore that - it’s just moved further down the page.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 09/06/2021 16:11

I find this all so sad that they treat HMQ with so much disrespect. Doesn’t matter if it’s the Queen or not, it’s his Granny. I wonder what Princess Anne makes of it all. Love to hear her reaction.

RubyViolet · 09/06/2021 16:13

If they prepared, with their legal advisors or actually applied for trademarks, registered online domains and licensed legal titles with the name Lilibet before they told the Queen then it would appear that the decision was made without seeking her approval.
I read that the domains were put in place on the day of the birth by their team as they didn’t want to get caught out again as they were with Archie, people had previously applied to register sites in Archie’s name when he was born. So it’s understandable that they would be prepared this time.
That said they would have had to be working on paperwork and preparation beforehand to have it all ready to go. No point in registering any name beforehand as it could have been picked up by the press.

Diverseopinions · 09/06/2021 16:15

So, everyone here would name their child after a personal, special name that their grandmother's husband used at private moments?

I don't think so. If you want to honour, you go formal.

If you want to show you're special and in with the royal family, you go familiar.

In my family, it wouldn't matter, nobody knows us. But my mum would not have been as pleased to be honoured in a naming ceremony, if a short pet or nick name were being used. She would have preferred that her proper full name be remembered, especially if the pet name were adorable but with childlike connotations.. Older people like to be treated by younger people with a bit of decorum and deference, I believe. It's a form of protecting them to do this. I don't think invoking them in litigation is really protecting them, and it's hard to see that what courtiers said to a media channel won't be central to any law suit.

In the royal family, you follow tradition. The royals call the Queen, " Her Majesty the Queen" , when speaking to the media about her.

Harry would be fairly formal in the way he addresses her in person. He would not have associated her with this pet name. . We are told the royal family curtsey and bow to one another when in their own company. They follow special traditional forms and conventions.

If a person thinks the royal family is just a well-known family living in Britain, then their take might be different. But I think of the constitutional and highly significant role of the RF in public, and I decide in my mind that their position is different to that of the run of the mill family and conventions matter to them.

eddiemairswife · 09/06/2021 16:17

Our 1st daughter was given the same first and second names as my husband's granny. Granny was thrilled, as she thought we had named the baby after her. We hadn't, as it turned out that my husband didn't even know what his Granny's names were. However we didn't enlighten her.

Walkaround · 09/06/2021 16:20

@ajandjjmum

If the Queen does as little as possible to create conflicts, then she should sack the “Palace sources” for gross misconduct.

If they are telling the truth, how can it be 'gross misconduct'?

It’s either the leaking of private and confidential opinions and information belonging to your employer, which will undoubtedly breach the terms of their employment, or malicious gossip, or the Queen is not actually remotely averse to stirring up trouble.
OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/06/2021 16:23

I can imagine the Queen being inscrutable and keeping a stiff upper lip while in conversation with Harry on the subject but not being particularly chuffed about their choice.

Given that H&M seem to be setting up an alternative court in California, the Queen might feel as if her persona was being appropriated for pecuniary advantage.

I can also imagine Harry not necessarily being sensitive to any hesitation or lack of enthusiasm in the Queen's voice.

TheoMeo · 09/06/2021 16:29

The info came from a 'palace source' so was official.
Trash you family, siblings, aunts and uncles (HMQ's children) then name your child after her. Yes, great idea.

TheoMeo · 09/06/2021 16:31

I can't believe Hand M won't go out of fashion.
Many in the US have pretty old fashioned values, eg loyalty to kith and kin.
Surely everyone's sick of them here. I thought Meghan would be a great asset to the royal family, and the UK come to that. Now had enough of the attention seeking.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/06/2021 16:32

The info came from a 'palace source' so was official

Not necessarily; the "source" could be someone who worked there 20 years ago, or just the product of some trash journo's imagination after a liquid lunch

Newsflash: the media make things up all the time ... but then so do the RF, including H&M themselves

Cacacoisfarraige · 09/06/2021 16:33

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MustardRose · 09/06/2021 16:36

Hang on, just checking something...........
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Nope. Still can't bring myself to care one jot about H&M. But I certainly don't want the BBC to be spending licence-payers' money on legal fees. I don't know why they don't just stop reporting about them altogether and ignore them completely. Like I do.

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/06/2021 16:37

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

No boot getting stuck in here - there are plenty of other things I can comment on for that.

But personally I do think it is a shame that Doria or a nod to Doria wasn’t in the name.

That’s just me though. My opinion.

Why though? It never occurred to me to name my children after my mum. Is it a law?!Confused
HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/06/2021 16:38

@MustardRose

Hang on, just checking something........... ............ .......... ..... Nope. Still can't bring myself to care one jot about H&M. But I certainly don't want the BBC to be spending licence-payers' money on legal fees. I don't know why they don't just stop reporting about them altogether and ignore them completely. Like I do.
You ignore them so completely that you click and comment on threads about them? Got it 😁
Serenster · 09/06/2021 16:38

I find the use of the BBC as the organisation to whom the palace official chose to speak as very interesting!

For one thing, the source went straight to the national public broadcaster, not a newspaper (even a well regarded one). That’s relatively unusual. And secondly, the BBC will obviously be being very cautious about reporting on royal stories just now, following the Martin Bashir revelations. Yet, despite this caution, they still ran with this story.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 09/06/2021 16:39

My middle names are those of my grandmothers.

My mum wouldn’t have chosen one and not the other.

Why would it be a law? Don’t be daft. But for my generation it wasn’t uncommon.

I did say it was my opinion. Mine.

Not law.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 09/06/2021 16:40

That was for hmmmm.

RickiTarr · 09/06/2021 16:40

@Puzzledandpissedoff

The info came from a 'palace source' so was official

Not necessarily; the "source" could be someone who worked there 20 years ago, or just the product of some trash journo's imagination after a liquid lunch

Newsflash: the media make things up all the time ... but then so do the RF, including H&M themselves

I know BBC news - especially online - has had some interesting wobbly moments of woke culture recently, but I really doubt that they’ve got to the point when they employ “trash journos” to make things up.

Royal stories are generally left to senior staff even on the red tops. So the interning wokerati (the weak part of the BBC operation) shouldn’t have got close to a story involving a senior courtier.

You seem to be imagining the BBC newsroom as the NOTW resurrected with random, drunken junior staff inventing fake stories. It’s definitely not like that.

Member869894 · 09/06/2021 16:41

I feel sorry for them really. They seem to be deeply stupid. Or ill advised. Or both. I don't understand why they don't just get on with their lives now and stop courting publicity

Xenia · 09/06/2021 16:42

If the queen were told in advance that is entirely different from her giving approval. So it just depends who said what.