Strange family relationships

[antsy]

The Queen is reported to have invited Harry to a private lunch. According to a courtier speaking to the Mail: "It’s a typically magnanimous gesture by Her Majesty.
It will be the first time they will meet alone since 2020.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/15196025/queen-harry-lunch-windsor-private-meeting-royal-family/

If my great grandmother (if she was alive) was going to invite me for lunch, even if there had been a big family feud, it would not be seen as this amazing gesture.

I do find it strange anyway that they have to book an appointment to see the Queen, even her adult children have to. In a more normal family the adult children would just ring and say are you free tonight, okay if I pop over for a quick coffee? It is all so stiff and formal even with close family relationships. No wonder they are so dysfunctional.

Plenty of posh folk have different airs and graces than other people.

Agree! A friend married into a posh "old money" family and the rules are incredibly formal, especially regarding the in-laws. Everything is closely scheduled with different children/spouses/grandchildren expected to turn up if their company is requested. Spontaneously rocking up to their house and expecting a meal or having the grandkids taken off your hands is an absolute no-go.

This isn't even a famous family by any regards, so I'm not surprised at all that the royal family works like that. Many people will hate that sort of life but some of the royals (Kate, Will, kids) do seem like they genuinely enjoy their existence and are grateful for the privileges.

I am a bit taken aback by your post. Yes, you are mistaken. You haven't read all my posts surely? Or have you? If so, that's very sinister, and I imagine not given you saying I have only supported two members of the monarchy.

Let me spell it out. I hate bullying. I think they have received the most awful press and vitriol and I am glad they've left, good luck to them. Their position within the RF was untenable for all sorts of reasons. Again... a million times on these threads I have said they can behave like a couple of twats at times and sometimes don't help themselves. But maybe you missed those posts of mine?

I have said many a time that William is very lucky to have Kate, they are the best choice for the 'job'. Not that there is choice of course.

I just think it is very wrong to make assumptions about people. Which you have done. I don't know you, you don't know me.

As for this..
However it is good on this occasion you have some sympathy for a old lady

Oh purleeeease. 'On this occasion'? What does that mean? I don't post vitriol and nastiness about the queen

Doing work for AgeUK means I have a lot of sympathy for the elderly thanks

@Roussette

I am a bit taken aback by your post. Yes, you are mistaken. You haven't read all my posts surely? Or have you? If so, that's very sinister, and I imagine not given you saying I have only supported two members of the monarchy.

Let me spell it out. I hate bullying. I think they have received the most awful press and vitriol and I am glad they've left, good luck to them. Their position within the RF was untenable for all sorts of reasons. Again... a million times on these threads I have said they can behave like a couple of twats at times and sometimes don't help themselves. But maybe you missed those posts of mine?

I have said many a time that William is very lucky to have Kate, they are the best choice for the 'job'. Not that there is choice of course.

I just think it is very wrong to make assumptions about people. Which you have done. I don't know you, you don't know me.

As for this..
However it is good on this occasion you have some sympathy for a old lady

Oh purleeeease. 'On this occasion'? What does that mean? I don't post vitriol and nastiness about the queen

Doing work for AgeUK means I have a lot of sympathy for the elderly thanks

I haven't read all your posts or all these threads Just commenting on the ones I have seen. Plus previous conversations with you.

A person can only go on what they have seen or read.

Glad to hear you have a balanced view then. Even if I was previously unaware of it.

The whole thing is a pigging car crash nightmare either way. Though they have ridden out such stuff in the past. The media and internet is making this have longer legs than it does.

@antsy

I always thought it was terrible that Fergie was not allowed to join her own children for Christmas Day but had to stay at a cottage on the estate while the children joined the Royal Family.

I would say in a divorce it would be normal for the parent who doesn't have the kids on Christmas to not see them, so being on a cottage is more than most mother's would get. I also remember a story about Diana spending Christmas alone post divorce.

It would be usual for the kids to spend alternate Christmases with each parent though.

I find the fact the Harry's meeting with HM is publicised is a bit cynical and the royal PR machine doing it's job.

@antsy

The Palace is letting it known that inviting Harry to a PRIVATE lunch is a magnamaminous gesture. Whereas if my grandmother lived in another country and I flew in for something, she would have been be upset if I wasn't able to visit her. It is a sign of how dysfunctional they are as a family.

In a world where you and your gran both had press officers and assorted other staff, If you spoke to the international media about your parent’s shortcomings being a result of the way your Gran raised them and accusing your whole family of being neglectful and uncaring, THEN you would probably find your gran’s press people pushed back against stories of a rift by letting it be known you had been invited to a 1 on 1 lunch.

I do not recall saying to you that I am not in favour of the Monarchy. Because I know it is going to be around long after I'm pushing up daisies! I might well have said I am not in favour of it in its present form,
that is something I feel strongly about.

@User3253465621

Plenty of posh folk have different airs and graces than other people.

Agree! A friend married into a posh "old money" family and the rules are incredibly formal, especially regarding the in-laws. Everything is closely scheduled with different children/spouses/grandchildren expected to turn up if their company is requested. Spontaneously rocking up to their house and expecting a meal or having the grandkids taken off your hands is an absolute no-go.

This isn't even a famous family by any regards, so I'm not surprised at all that the royal family works like that. Many people will hate that sort of life but some of the royals (Kate, Will, kids) do seem like they genuinely enjoy their existence and are grateful for the privileges.

I guess if you have your children raised by nannies and boarding school family relationships will be different.

@Gingerkittykat Divorced parents often take turns having the children for Christmas. Fergie never had them. She had to have Christmas alone in a nearby cottage while sending her children to the Royal Family for a Christmas celebration.
If a divorced mother posted about this setup everyone would be saying it was unfair.

@Roussette

I do not recall saying to you that I am not in favour of the Monarchy. Because I know it is going to be around long after I'm pushing up daisies! I might well have said I am not in favour of it in its present form, that is something I feel strongly about.

Who are you talking to @Roussette? There are several threads going and it’s difficult to follow.

You keep posting this sort of thing to me, you did the other day too
What are you on about with several threads going?

Don't you worry, the person I'm responding to knows I'm replying to them. I don't @ everyone, I find it annoying, like now.

Stop bullying Rousette.

It's disgraceful how these threads always get derailed into personal attacks and pile-ons on specific posters (and always posters perceived as being pro-Meghan).

We've had four threads deleted in a week because they were slightly critical of the Cambridges or said things about the Cambridges that royalists want covered up, and one of those had the most blatant attempt to flood a thread with abuse so it would be deleted (by the pro-Royal lot) I've ever seen.

This is a thread for discussing the family relationships of the BFR. Stop derailing.

Stop bullying Rousette.

Don’t be ludicrous. I was trying to help.

We've had four threads deleted in a week because they were slightly critical of the Cambridges or said things about the Cambridges that royalists want covered up,

Yes, I agree that the blind obsequiousness towards the Cambridges from some quarters is every bit as bad (nauseating) as the blind obsequiousness to the Sussexes is from others.

I don’t know why you think I’m picking on @Roussette though. I’ve said in the past that she is by far the most civilised regular H&M fan on MN.

Fergie never had them. She had to have Christmas alone in a nearby cottage while sending her children to the Royal Family

As so often in MN, this is a DH problem, rather than a PiL problem. As demonstrated by the Cambridge Family choosing to alternate Christmas with his and with her family

@FinallyHere

Fergie never had them. She had to have Christmas alone in a nearby cottage while sending her children to the Royal Family

As so often in MN, this is a DH problem, rather than a PiL problem. As demonstrated by the Cambridge Family choosing to alternate Christmas with his and with her family

Yes, no reason they couldn’t have had Xmas as a famiiy, even if separated.

Funny that. You're the first and only person to say this in all the time I've been here, but don't worry, you are on my superfan list now, you made it!

Am I right in thinking that the Queen signs all Acts of Parliament and that she has "to do" the red box every day as part of her routine? I don't suppose she's met the Prime Minister every Tuesday during lock-down but I assume she must have had some sort of contact with him on the usual weekly basis. I don't think the members of the RF swan up to events without having to do some preparation beforehand. No doubt grey suits do the background work but the RF members have to know something about what they're going to. I think the Queen's five days with nothing written in the Court Circular might not be five days off in the way it would be for me.

Yes, I think the red boxes are pretty relentless for the monarch.

I still have trouble wrapping my head around the amount of work she has to do with so little actual power.

@RickiTarr

Stop being patronising and condescending to @Roussette. You are trying to gaslight and what you are saying is false actually, it was very clear who she was responding to.

The desperation of some posters !

@upinaballoon

Am I right in thinking that the Queen signs all Acts of Parliament and that she has "to do" the red box every day as part of her routine? I don't suppose she's met the Prime Minister every Tuesday during lock-down but I assume she must have had some sort of contact with him on the usual weekly basis. I don't think the members of the RF swan up to events without having to do some preparation beforehand. No doubt grey suits do the background work but the RF members have to know something about what they're going to. I think the Queen's five days with nothing written in the Court Circular might not be five days off in the way it would be for me.

I think she’s still had the meetings on Zoom. Yes, also she does have to do the Red Box every day too. There is a lot of reading and preparation before every visit or zoom talk.

That’s a rather silly interpretation of a well meant question @Mummy194

Please stop being so aggressive.