Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor

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Harry and Megan have just announced their new baby's name.

What's everyone's thoughts?

What an odd thing to post.

Out of this whole thread you think that flippant comment was odd? Ok..

We'll never know whether they asked the Queen about the name, but she has no jurisdiction in the US so any objection would hardly have mattered

Exactly we don't know but so many posters are outraged on the Queens behalf & have assumed she doesn't know.

It’s at odds with their previous position. They chose to say some pretty shocking (probably true) things at a very sensitive time(Philip’s very poor health) and now choose a name that is extremely intimate in relation to the very person to whom they would have caused much distress.

If you look at the free BMD names on line, there's several Lillibets and Lillibeths. It's not just the Queen's nickname. I'm sure she knew that her great granddaughter would be given this name well beforehand.

Not keen on Lillibet as a given name, should be a nickname only I think, or a middle name at a push. Like Diana as a middle name though.

Well it used to be my nickname too! I'm very cross they didn't consult me!!!

[quote PresentingPercy]@fashionablefennel
Harry’s full given name is Henry. Perhaps you did not know that?. He does not have a shortened name or familiar name for his given name. Lillibet is clearly a nickname and it is not Elizabeth. The use of Harry is a choice but he’s Prince Henry.[/quote]
that was exactly my point... but you seem to have misunderstood my post!

@Benjispruce3

It’s at odds with their previous position. They chose to say some pretty shocking (probably true) things at a very sensitive time(Philip’s very poor health) and now choose a name that is extremely intimate in relation to the very person to whom they would have caused much distress.

And if they had called her something completely unrelated they'd have been slated for that as well.

They can't do right for doing wrong.

So you don’t speak to the family, publicly call them racist and say they are unsupportive blah blah blah, but you name their child after them?
That’s bizarre.

DH has no contact with his parents. He would never name our daughter after them.

Cringe.

We'll never know whether they asked the Queen about the name, but she has no jurisdiction in the US so any objection would hardly have mattered

She has no 'jurisdiction' in the UK either. It's a constitutional monarchy.

Even given the RF convention about swinging names past the Monarch before deciding, she has great grandchildren named Savannah, Isla, and Mia, so it seems she's pretty cool about these things.

@RaspberryRoyale88

So you don’t speak to the family, publicly call them racist and say they are unsupportive blah blah blah, but you name their child after them? That’s bizarre.

DH has no contact with his parents. He would never name our daughter after them.

This.

Buckingham Palace have announced that the RF are delighted. I imagine the Queen is celebrating a new great grandchild.

What's the matter with Rose? And why is it a problem to have the middle name of Diana like Charlotte? I don't think two sons who lost their mother in a tragic accident, would mean that only one can use her name, as a middle name.

We have to face it. Whatever name she chose would be wrong with some. Any name. Literally any.

On a positive note, Piers Morgan just pissed his pants in a rage.

Doriana Elizabeth.

Sorted.

Their baby so their choice of name. Congratulations to them and hope baby goes on to lead a very happy life.

@RaspberryRoyale88

So you don’t speak to the family, publicly call them racist and say they are unsupportive blah blah blah, but you name their child after them? That’s bizarre.

DH has no contact with his parents. He would never name our daughter after them.

Meghan and Harry have never made any comment on the queen, let alone called her racist or unsupportive. They specifically said that conversation wasn't with her. Everything they have said about her has been positive.

How the fuck do any of us know what relationship they have? We don't. And we never will do.

Lili, as she will be known is a lovely name and I think it’s sweet what her full name is.

I also cringed when I saw the name.

Firstly, I dislike the tradition of honouring the royal family side of the family and not the mother's side - this goes for both Catherine and Meghan. I guess Catherine can say that Elizabeth was a nod to both the Queen and her mother (Carole's middle name is Elizabeth, as is Catherine's), but there's nothing in either of her son's names as a nod to her side of the family.

Secondly, it's interesting how times have changed in two years. When Archie was born his name was clearly not linked in any way to the royal family. Now they have shoehorned the name in, so that it honours the Queen and so they get to use their actual preferred name (Lily/Lili).

From memory, I don't think that Harry had to ask the Queen's permission to name his children, he was too far down the line of succession when Archie was born.

I just feel they have no sense or nuance or subtlety.

When they are sticking the knife in, they don't use a kitchen knife, they use a massive samurai sword.

When they are trying to ingratiate themselves with the royal family, it's love bombing central.

I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they spoke to the Queen about it before hand - because it feels so personal to the Queen, especially just after Philip died, that I'd find it really inappropriate if they hadn't checked first.

Hopefully this is a bit of an indication that they think they may have over stepped the mark slightly with the OW interview and the apple documentary, and are trying to pull it back a little. Again unsubtle, but a step in the right direction is always a good sign.

Both are nice names. Lilibet, why not? Only that both names are from the paternal family and none from the maternal one. Isn’t there any worthy female relative or ancestor among the Raglands and the Markles? Especially since Meghan is a feminist and describes Harry as a feminist too.

Firstly, I dislike the tradition of honouring the royal family side of the family and not the mother's side

Meghan has a recent forebear named Lillie...

So you don’t speak to the family, publicly call them racist and say they are unsupportive blah blah blah, but you name their child after them?
That’s bizarre.

Where have they called the Queen racist or said they don't speak to her?

If they named her Kelly or Maddison or Leila or Lydia or Jody the nasty people who hate them will say they were using American names to stick it to the royals.

No matter what they named her, the haters would have something to say. They would sit back and think of something nasty.

@TheMoth

Doriana Elizabeth.

Sorted.

Great. Have you let them know?