Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor

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Harry and Megan have just announced their new baby's name.

What's everyone's thoughts?

Wasn't Lillibet Philip's pet name for the Queen

I'm pretty sure it's said to be how the Queen pronounced her own name when small, and it stuck as a pet name after that

Seems a bit odd to pick it when they could just have called her Elizabeth if they wanted though - especially as it's to be Lily Diana, which is actually very nice

I mean that name comes with a bit of baggage doesn’t it - it’s like it’s not actually her own name. Those names very much represent other people.

@RaptorInaPorkPieHat

I wonder if they had to get to Queen's approval? or does that only go as far as grand children's names?

I doubt they did, they are far enough down the line that Lillibet will only be a 'lady' not a 'princess' (technically Charlotte should only be a 'Lady' but the queen made a special exemption so she could become Princess and hold her spot in line over future siblings)

@midsomermurderess

The Queen's father called her Lilibet. It was to do with his stammer. Maybe Philip called her this too, but it started with her father.

Her entire family called her this, but the Queen actually started it herself, as she couldn't pronounce Elizabeth as a toddler.

I think there must be very very few people (if any? possibly her cousins) left alive who would still call her this. I do hope that Harry asked her permission and that she gave consent. I don't know, to me it just feels quite manipulative. I wouldn't have had an issue with Elizabeth, but Lilibet is just SO personal.

I think it is a lovely name. Not being from your country, I am free to simply like or not like the name for its own sake. My grandmother was Elizabeth and called Lillibet by her family and dearest friends, so there was an immediate "AWWWWW!" factor for me.

So try-hard. They’re quite sad really

@RaspberryCoulis Lili, as a stand-alone, is the Welsh spelling for Lily. It’s not unusual at all in Wales.

Well it’s just a daft name - Elizabeth Diana nn Lily would have been fine.

Nice names but it’s a bit rich to use Lilibet.

so they named her after the head of the racist sexist and abusive firm?

[quote CallmeHendricks]@YellowMonday: "However, the name? This is straight up gaslighting. Using the private family nickname to keep their "royal" relevance for merching is a disgrace. Why not Lilli or Elizabeth?"

This, exactly. They can't use Sussex Royal so they'll use this instead.[/quote]
Do people really think they are 'gaslighting' the queen I blame that amateur psychology magazine for all this psychobabble nonsense.

Does it really not occur to people that perhaps they might have asked before using the name?

@Loopylobes precisely! no one cares that you flinched.

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fashionablefennel
Of course we also hear it in Elisabeth. Perhaps people are more sensitive to that sort of thing, I don't know any young Elisabeths.
I would have liked to have called my daughter Bethan, for sentimental reasons, but didn't because of the sound in French. Lilibet is a made up name, so it stands out all the more.

I’m surprised by the contradiction between when they were in Royal life, and they made a point of picking names that had as little to do with them as possible.

Now they’re out of royal life, they’re making the biggest point they possibly can to remind everyone that THEY’RE STILL PART OF IT

Two pretty contradictory decisions based pretty much on making a stand about whatever agenda they had at the time.

Lovely names. I wish them well.

I think it’s quite a sweet name. Whatever they chose would be criticised. As long as they like it that’s all that matters.

Why is it disrespectful? They named her in honour of the queen out of respect. Get a life, why do some people choose to see the worst in everyone.

This has descended into an utter shit show.

It's ok but I would have preferred Elizabeth. But you don't need to ask permission to use a name, nobody has a monopoly on a name. Only on MN...

Love Lili Diana. Not keen on Lillibet Diana - and a tad off considering their recent comments on the royal family which the Queen is head of. For some reason Elizabeth Diana wouldn’t have bothered me but Lilibet sounds too intimate after that interview. Buts that’s me & congratulations to the parents. I also think Archie & Lili work really well together as siblings names.

[quote Benjispruce3]@Pieceofpurplesky vile? I asked a question. I had no idea it had been born or clue of due dates. Thought they might be announcing the name before birth as many do.Not sure why that’s a vile post.[/quote]
@Benjispruce3 'it'???

You mean SHE.

She is not an 'it'.

Lily would have been lovely. That would have been a ‘nod’. Lilibet is a strange and overly personal choice, when it wasn’t their private name to share. Awful choice, inappropriate and overly public and showy.

Why not just Lily and leave the Queen out of it? If they're never going to call her Lillibet, which isn't a name anyway, why bother 🙄?

Incredibly insulting but I expected nothing less from the pair of them.

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Of course but likewise it's ok to question why one would have such a visceral reaction to what strangers call their dc. It's odd imo.

The queen has quite a lot of grand-children and great grandchildren - are any others named after her? I imagine the rest of family who have given their children non associative names are doing massive eye rolls at this. I mean they could have all gone for something like Lillibet to ‘honour’ the queen but didn’t because they’re not prats.