Harry's latest ventures

[Viviennemary]

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

If I were advising the palace I would tell them to just let H and M get on with it and never comment or respond and continue to treat them as well as possible but at a distance as they cannot be trusted.
If they just crack on with their lives now then all good. Maybe relations will improve in time , maybe not but it doesn’t matter constitutionally ( sounds harsh but the truth).
If they just continue to slag off the Queen , Charles etc then I think public opinion in the U.K. would be massively on the Queen’s side or Charles to ask them politely not to use their titles any longer. If anything the public opinion may demand it.
We will all bore of it, I found the whole thing fascinating back in January 2020 and I still think it constitutionally fascinating now and like to hear others opinions but I find the pair of them actually very boring and my interest is definitely subsiding.

If they need to make another change to the rules to prevent (Archie) becoming Prince on the death of The Queen. Doing this will look spiteful and backup everything Meghan said in the Oprah interview

Frankly, with the damage H&M are doing to themselves, I doubt too many would care. Some would be noisy about it (in both directions), but for most it could well be "they wanted out, so what the hell does it matter now?"

Yes they provide some passing entertainment, but on the whole I really don't think they matter as much as they appear to think they do

I’m struggling to understand why Harry did the Dax Shepherd podcast. He can’t have been paid that much, relative to his wealth.

I do think Harry really needs to think carefully about his next move and quit the trash talking. I didn’t realise how unpopular Harry has now made himself within British Armed Forces. I’ve been told that Harry would “struggle to find a Royal Marine to pi$$ on him if he were on fire”, and that was from a RM. I find it all just a bit heartbreaking.

He seems to be in such a destructive downward spiral. He and Meghan obviously don’t see it that way though.

I will look out for the Queen publicly declaring this!

You'll be looking a long time, Roussette
After all, if "removing titles" started, that might swing more attention toward's Andrew's, and I really don't imagine that would be welcome

I’m struggling to understand why Harry did the Dax Shepherd podcast. He can’t have been paid that much, relative to his wealth

Have you listened to it? The bit that everyone is worked up about is about 2 minutes out of 1hr30mins. He comes across well in it, and is using the podcast to talk about men's mental health.

After all, if "removing titles" started, that might swing more attention toward's Andrew's, and I really don't imagine that would be welcome

Indeed!
A can of worms!

I think Hollywood has got Harry by the balls and is squeezing hard. I am reminded of something that River Phoenix said, he wanted to hang around with his band mates and play music all day long. His management, agent, producers, Hollywood machine pressurised him into making movies he didn’t want to do.

I think Harry’s agent wants his 10% and is sending Harry out to work with only a short-term view.

And the podcast is full of “fucking” this and “fucking” that. Classy. Not.

@HagenDaz

And the podcast is full of “fucking” this and “fucking” that. Classy. Not.

Really?

Who on earth is it intended for?

Oh please! It is not full of 'fucking' this and 'fucking' that. AT ALL.

Totally incorrect. I listened to it all. I heard Harry talk of 'a shitload' of something. That was about it.

I don't even remember the word 'fucking' so it must've been pretty insignificant.

@HagenDaz

And the podcast is full of “fucking” this and “fucking” that. Classy. Not.

Not from Harry. But people do swear sometimes, MN is pretty sweary. And this wasn't a public radio broadcast. Chill out a bit.

Dax Shepherd swears a LOT. Rousette how did you miss that? I don’t appreciate bad language but I guess some people don’t mind it.

Is the Queen going to do this? Or is it just a hopeful wish?

I'm sure it is obvious to most readers that Marmaladeagain was musing on the conundrum of the titles and suggesting what seems to be the most pragmatic solution.

I agree that the bits where Harry mentions his family are not long in terms of actual time spent talking about it, but that’s a bit like saying that in an hour and a half long podcast if Harry casually mentioned “I’ve just murdered my best friend” (silly example I know, but it’s just for illustration purposes) and then talked about the weather for the rest of the time, the “bombshell” bit would not be talked about iyswim.

@smilesy

I agree that the bits where Harry mentions his family are not long in terms of actual time spent talking about it, but that’s a bit like saying that in an hour and a half long podcast if Harry casually mentioned “I’ve just murdered my best friend” (silly example I know, but it’s just for illustration purposes) and then talked about the weather for the rest of the time, the “bombshell” bit would not be talked about iyswim.

It’s also the “family mention “ that makes it newsworthy. Hence why he does it and why it is probably a contractural obligation he does! I know if I was asking Harry to be on my podcast and paying him to do so, I would Insist he say something controversial about his dad or brother , (just a minute or two please Harry ), as it’s that bit that gets the press attention bringing everyone to my podcast. It’s a no brainer!

@Roussette

Weird. I've got a lot of American friends. They love M&H and think our loss is their gain

So there you go

Different opinions

There are nearly 330 millions Americans. How many of that number are among your "a lot?" Of course some of those millions will love H&M.

But the poll referenced above presumably has a fairly wide trawl.

Dax F-bombs frequently throughout the whole of the podcast. If you didn’t hear it, I doubt you’ve listened to it.

@HagenDaz

And the podcast is full of “fucking” this and “fucking” that. Classy. Not.

And here was me thinking it was the Sermon on the Mount

I agree, smilesy, but for many Harry's RF membership is his USP and the reason hosts are so keen to grab him for their shows. It doesn't matter what he has to offer or even if he contradicts himself and looks foolish; they get their "I got a prince!!" moment and that's all that counts

There are so many who can talk brilliantly about MH, but with Harry there's the lure of him dropping some tantalising details about the family - the more salacious the better - so they practise their "Oh WOWs!!" and look forward to the viewing figures and the money rolling in

Trouble is, once the really meaty stuff's been disclosed it's a game of diminishing returns. Having been surrounded by sycophants so long it's possible Harry kids himself that they really do want him for himself, but with her background I'd expect Meghan to know better - hence, perhaps, the reason they're cashing in while the going's good

There are nearly 330 millions Americans. How many of that number are among your "a lot?" Of course some of those millions will love H&M

Of course. I just talked of my friends, that's all.
However a PP said that the whole of Australia and NZ see right through H&M!!!
A little different to me just talking about the American friends I have.

12freerange
It didn't register. And Harry didn't swear.

smilesy I get what you're saying. But detractors don't even comment on the 1hr28 minutes left of the podcast. Only focussed on what they consider is the awful bit.

HagenDaz Are you saying I haven't listened to it?
FYI I have thank you.

As I said the swearing did not register with me as a huge thing.

But the poll referenced above presumably has a fairly wide trawl

I think it said 1500 responders, which isn't a vast number, but then reputable surveyors are better at it than most so it may be reliable

And I doubt disclosures are actually "in the contract" sashagabadon - after all that would be a bit blatant and may scare Harry off. IMO it's more likely that, if he doesn't spill, he just won't be invited again and the money will dry up

However detestable, these media pros are very skilled in getting the story - look at the ghastly Martin Bashir, now conveniently gone - and they run rings around the naive and over-protected

Did you also miss the bit where the two hosts mention that they’ve specifically been asked to release the podcast later than their usual schedule so the UK press has less time than they normally would to listen to it and respond? Harry and his people knew exactly what would be the big story from this, let’s not be disingenuous.

I don't understand that. The UK press can comment on it ad infinitum. Where is it limiting what they say?
Am I being stupid here?

However a PP said that the whole of Australia and NZ see right through H&M!!!

I was going to post these links last night regarding Australia but the thread moved on so didn’t but it’s come back now - Australians certainly don’t mince their words

I have no idea if this is a fair reflection of the Australian opinion as a whole but these are a couple of links as to what Sky News Aus are saying (I believe Alan Jones is a bit of a shock jock, a bit like our version of Piers Morgan so probably is a bit marmite!).

www.skynews.com.au/details/_6254156337001

www.skynews.com.au/details/_6237889058001

@Roussette

I don't understand that. The UK press can comment on it ad infinitum. Where is it limiting what they say? Am I being stupid here?

Did you listen to the podcast Rousette, really? It doesn’t sound like it, as they were crystal clear about this. Harry’s people told the two interviewers that the UK tabloid press will definitely be writing about what he has said, so could they please hang onto the podcast and release it later than they usually would (which they did) so that the US press will have a chance to get their stories out first before it hits the UK press. Presumably the time difference between the UK and the West Coast US is key here.

Yes I did listen thanks.

I heard him say they will definitely be writing about what he says.