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Harry's latest ventures

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Viviennemary · 15/05/2021 18:23

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

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KFleming · 15/05/2021 19:34

They are also reporting he may not come to the UK for the Diana memorial in July because of the reaction he might get.

That’s at the very start of July isn’t it? And Meghan is yet to give birth. If she gives birth today the baby will be 7 weeks. So a pretty reasonable reason for not coming (if he doesn’t) would be a very new baby.

Grumpyoldblonde · 15/05/2021 19:35

But this up is pure speculation from Angela Levin,

I think there is another documentary in the making where they will have taken films of various rooms and maybe even of various conversations.

"They can then go detail by detail about how terrible certain things were. I'm waiting for that one.

"I think it will be yet another nail in the coffin of his relationship to his father and his brother. They can't trust him anymore

She’s a shit stirrer and it works

StormzyinaTCup · 15/05/2021 19:38

Viviennemary I haven't heard about this but OMG what is he thinking?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/05/2021 19:41

Let's just hope the Express are wrong - it wouldn't be the first time

twilightcafe · 15/05/2021 19:45

This cannot be right. I don't believe this.

Who would advise someone to do this to their family and expect any kind of cordial relationship afterwards?

ChiefInspectorParker · 15/05/2021 19:48

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Theunamedcat · 15/05/2021 19:52

Strange that he was rumoured to insist that netflixnot do his story in the Crown? Now he is telling "his truth" constantly

Blossomtoes · 15/05/2021 19:53

@KFleming

They are also reporting he may not come to the UK for the Diana memorial in July because of the reaction he might get.

That’s at the very start of July isn’t it? And Meghan is yet to give birth. If she gives birth today the baby will be 7 weeks. So a pretty reasonable reason for not coming (if he doesn’t) would be a very new baby.

It might be for mere mortals but they’ve got hot and cold running nannies. He’s hardly changing nappies.
nicenicenice · 15/05/2021 19:53

Posted this on another thread but look what princess Di best friend Julia Samuel has to say on over sharing pain in a public space... speaks volumes I think. Speaks directly to what they are doing - to their families and themselves.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9c872878-b174-11eb-9055-64edaa2be8dd?shareToken=f4b6687b5e9cd5cd29bd89b565b14ca2

Marmaladeagain · 15/05/2021 19:54

@goregeouslilgirl
"think you misunderstand how different political systems work. In terms of constitutional power, the equivalent of Trump is Boris Johnson."

The Queen is head of state and forces in the UK - the military etc swear oath to the Queen not the Prime Minster. The US forces swear allegiance to the President. Head of state in UK is the Queen and US it is President.

They are comparative lines that I'm drawing, due to the US system Prime Minister overlaps - however, we're talking about the Queen so the role being discussed on these threads is that of Head of State.

I do not support presidential or semi-presidential systems etc

I was responding to the idea that we're a laughing stock and that other systems around the world are better than the UK system.

We're not looking to replace the Queen so we don't need to worry about Iceland. The UK in general are not requesting other countries suggest ideas for Head of State. Generally in the UK the the US system is found to be very unappealing. However, we are not suggesting they overthrow the system.

Grumpyoldblonde · 15/05/2021 19:59

One woman, Angela Levin says that this is what she ‘thinks’ they’ll do and people on the thread seem to think it’s a fact. So H&M get slagged off for something that is pure speculation.

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 15/05/2021 20:03

Just listened to that @ChiefInspectorParker

Thanks for posting

Intended to just have a quick peek and listened to the whole thing-
they came across as so so well-funny, engaging and natural.
Very easy rapport and passionate about their cause.

Really enjoyed the whole show-seemed very good sports whilst supporting their cause.

Very unaffected and natural-seemed so simpatico.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 15/05/2021 20:08

I really enjoyed that video Smile

SunbathingDragon · 15/05/2021 20:11

Whether it’s true or not, Harry has to earn money somehow and his link to the royal family is his only way of getting it.

It does seem odd to me that he is so keen to keep his titles and line of succession, despite how much he despises the royal family and all it stands for. Then again, the royal family was fine when he wanted to be half in and half out. All the things he is now complaining about happened before he requested the half in/half out position. It’s almost as if he is having a lengthy public tantrum at not being allowed what he wanted rather than having a genuine issue with it all...

Aspiringmatriarch · 15/05/2021 20:11

I hope this isn't true. I like Harry, I don't think the recent podcast was bad, and I'm also pretty sympathetic to the perspective they put forward in the Oprah interview. But unless there's a huge amount of truly Machiavellian evilness going on behind the scenes from the RF, I can't see the justification for more of the same. They've had their say, surely? At least for now. Let the dust settle.
I wish they would focus on the other, much more positive things they're involved with.

Marmaladeagain · 15/05/2021 20:12

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/14/william-harry-two-dukes-two-different-approaches-happiness/

don't know if opens without the subscription? maybe certain limit on articles. May have been linked previously, but I didn't notice.

twilightcafe · 15/05/2021 20:45

@ChiefInspectorParker

Who would advise someone to do this to their family someone who wants to make money and sees a way to do so by exploiting a somewhat vulnerable person with a massive chip on his shoulder?
But, surely, a move like this is so likely to backfire? I cannot believe that any sane PR would advise their client to do this.
MrsRockAndRoll · 15/05/2021 20:53

[quote nicenicenice]Posted this on another thread but look what princess Di best friend Julia Samuel has to say on over sharing pain in a public space... speaks volumes I think. Speaks directly to what they are doing - to their families and themselves.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9c872878-b174-11eb-9055-64edaa2be8dd?shareToken=f4b6687b5e9cd5cd29bd89b565b14ca2[/quote]
Yet another mental health contact in their circle who could have surely signposted help to H&M

Supersimkin2 · 15/05/2021 20:54

If it’s true - they may just be floating an idea to see if publishers bite for the right price - he’s an idiot.

Who wants their USP to be bitterness?

nevertrustaherdofcows · 15/05/2021 21:17

Marmalade - was just going to link that article. I think it is paywalled so here's an extract:

"It is on this issue that the lives of the two brothers have so obviously diverged. While Harry lashes out from his home in California, making woke podcasts and giving interviews to Oprah with his wife by his side, William has always been able to see the bigger picture – and set about a very practical pursuit of happiness from a young age. And despite the line Harry now seems desperate to draw between their choices, both brothers have sought to avoid repeating the destructive pattern they saw so clearly in their own parents.

It’s not surprising. Neither Diana nor Charles were given enough love and stability in their formative years. Diana was badly affected by her parents’ acrimonious divorce. Charles had deep scars of his own, partly from his rather cold upbringing. When they split in 1992, 10-year-old William became the man of the house. Diana described him as her “closest confidant and soulmate” – a terrible burden to place on a child.

Harry, who wears his heart on his sleeve, is a different character. He adored his mother because she could be great fun and gave him lots of hugs.

Nonetheless, their dysfunctional background meant that neither prince had much of a clue what a normal, happy family life looked like.

That may be why William rejected many of the options placed before him as a young man, determined to explore life’s other possibilities. With willpower and courage, the rather shy heir chose to study at the University of St Andrews, partly because it was far away from his family. He insisted on staying in student accommodation – rather than the smart flat with staff that his aides suggested – where he met Kate Middleton. Together they did simple things like grocery shopping, having a drink in the pub and eating fish and chips while sitting on the pavement. An ordinary person would find it difficult to understand how important this was for William and how it helped him feel liberated.

William desperately wanted to avoid the sort of painful divorce his parents went through and it took him seven years of battling between emotion and stiff upper lip to trust Kate enough to ask her to marry him. It was obvious how important his choice had been when, during their engagement interview, he said he had waited so long to give her time “to back out if she needed to before it all got too much”, adding significantly: “I have wanted to try to learn from lessons in the past.” He felt that Kate might in the end still have turned him down.

During that long period of courtship, William allowed himself to become close to the Middletons. They took him back to basics and provided a model he could work towards – learning how a settled and caring household works. William found he loved being part of a warm family unit and it was a healing experience for him to see how well Kate’s parents got on. He enjoyed going on holiday with them, watching television with supper on his lap and it’s even been claimed that he called Michael Middleton ‘Dad.’ Harry, of course, got on with Kate too and said she was the older sister he had always wanted.

Many men marry someone who reminds them of their mother, but William wasn’t tempted to find someone who was as magnetic as Diana, preferring straightforward Kate. No one should underestimate the soul-seeking he went through to prove that, by making thoughtful choices, one can stop history from repeating itself.

William and Kate’s marriage, in April 2011, drew a firm line under everything that his parents’ union had represented without rejecting either of them. Instead, he draws his mother’s influence into his life in a positive way through his obvious joy in having children and his deep involvement in George, Charlotte and Louis’s lives.

Harry has a different personality, more Spencer than Windsor, and has responded to his upbringing in a different way – not least because he is the ‘spare’. Diana encouraged him to be naughty and not get caught. He started drinking in 1997, aged 12, when he, William and their mother were holidaying on a boat owned by Mohamed Al Fayed – Harry going ashore whenever he could and returning drunk on the local tipple. It became a way for him to escape. He also told me he’d chosen to join the “bad boys” at Eton and added smoking and drugs to his intake.

Most teenagers start seeing their parents as imperfect, but Harry lost his mother before that could happen. Now in his thirties, and in therapy speak, he blames Prince Charles for the “genetic pain” he feels. Many think it is about time he stops playing the victim card.

Of course, like all those who have had turbulent upbringings, there is nothing wrong with trying to “break the cycle of pain and suffering” – and, as William has demonstrated, there are many non self-destructive ways to do this, including just getting on with parenting your own children. Instead, Harry seems to hang on tightly to his family’s mistakes.

catinboots123 · 15/05/2021 21:30

Whether it’s true or not, Harry has to earn money somehow

Lol. Apparently he has 36 million quid in the bank.

diddl · 15/05/2021 21:35

@catinboots123

Whether it’s true or not, Harry has to earn money somehow

Lol. Apparently he has 36 million quid in the bank.

Depends on the lifestyle that you want to fund, doesn't it?
Roussette · 15/05/2021 21:37

I wonder what Diana would have made of it

I think she would've supported him for making his own way. Just my opinion of course.

StormzyinaTCup · 15/05/2021 21:54

I think she would've supported him for making his own way.

As did lots of us run of the mill Joe/Jane Bloggs

It's highly unlikely that she would have supported him doing it in the way he has done it. Diana made sure when she was alive that the brothers forged a close relationship growing up, as part of his 'breaking away' H has thrown that relationship away. Diana was close to the Duke of Edinburgh, so H doing an Oprah tell all as part of his 'breaking away' whilst PP was dying in hospital, I don't think she'd be supporting that.

There is a way to breakaway, the right way and PH/MM way.