Harry's latest ventures

[Viviennemary]

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

lightand Do rifts really heal, or is it just 'let's pretend' for the sake of the Monarchy?
Maybe he's tried really hard and got nowhere.

To me, it's like lancing a boil

I think we have to be careful about how we look to police someone’s response to trauma and place a value judgement on them

Both William and Harry are different people with different responses to often the same situation
While it’s true that none of us walk in the shoes it can also be said that they don’t walk in each other’s shoes either
They are individuals as much as they are bothers and members of the same family.

Ones reaction to their personal trauma does not make it more worthy because it suits our sensibilities.

Only each person themselves can be the judge of that.

William's comments about the importance of a free press and investigative reporting in his statement about the Dyson findings provided an interesting counterpoint to Harry's earlier comment on the first amendment, I thought. He seems to have been able to develop a more nuanced perspective on the press, although I completely understand why Harry has the feelings he has.

Also let’s be honest the feeding frenzy started long before the Oprah interview .

There is a huge difference between sharing with your therapist , the people who care about you and who you care about and sharing with a worldwide global audience of people who really don’t know you or frankly really care and for whom you really are just ‘a spectacle’.

Yes that was a terrible mistake and completely misjudged. I don’t remember Charles publicly criticising his father though. What was said?

@Angiedx

I think we have to be careful about how we look to police someone’s response to trauma and place a value judgement on them

Both William and Harry are different people with different responses to often the same situation
While it’s true that none of us walk in the shoes it can also be said that they don’t walk in each other’s shoes either
They are individuals as much as they are bothers and members of the same family.

Ones reaction to their personal trauma does not make it more worthy because it suits our sensibilities.

Only each person themselves can be the judge of that.

This is so true

He was born into the RF and I understand why he wouldn’t want to follow that path. For all the privileges it brings, it has negatives as you’re not an average person, so couldn’t just pop to the shop etc...

If he wants to lead a normal life, he’s absolutely entitled to that. To live a quiet life with his new family in peace. Completely respect and understand that.

But no. He’s going on one if the biggest shows in America to air all of his dirty laundry. Why? What’s the point? What’s he hoping to achieve?

By the looks of it, he’s not talking favourably about Prince Charles and he’s using Mental health as his reason for telling his story it appears.

I find it all hypocritical tbh. M fell out with her dad seemingly because he was selling stories and that’s a shit thing to do, so I can understand why she’s be annoyed. Yet here we are with airing private family matters on national tv?!

H talks about his own MH struggles, yet what about that of his dad and brother, doesn’t he realise this will affect their MH potentially?

They wanted a quiet life away from the media is my understanding of it and that’s understandable, so why not go and have that quiet life? Why complain about the media circus then proactively go and do such media intensive interviews?

No one actually cares in the grand scheme of life. People have bigger worries in their own life. The both seemed like nice people M&H but it seems someone is hell bent on causing as much divide between the families as possible......

@Angiedx

Also let’s be honest the feeding frenzy started long before the Oprah interview .

So why would you throw petrol on the flames? They said they wanted privacy, remember?

No they didn’t say they wanted privacy but that has become the narrative.

As is often the case a meaning is extrapolated from what was actually said and then touted as reality to the point that when repeated often enough it is treated as fact

Much the same as wanting a quiet life

I think Harry should certainly have the chance to talk about the past and his feelings. However doing so publicly makes it look like he is being exploited. I'm actually surprised that Oprah would think this a good idea if she genuinely cares about him and his future relationships with his relatives back in the UK.

I can see some unfortunate parallels with Martin Bashir cosying up to Diana and encouraging her to disclose sensational information on camera in a way that might have felt cathartic in the short term but would not help her in the longer term.

Harry is banging his drum now but the media and its audience always like the New. Harry needs a new drum pretty quickly.

@Angiedx

No they didn’t say they wanted privacy but that has become the narrative.

As is often the case a meaning is extrapolated from what was actually said and then touted as reality to the point that when repeated often enough it is treated as fact

Much the same as wanting a quiet life

Sorry my mistake? Didn’t they move to Canada to try to escape to media circus and live a more normal life?....

No they didn’t say they wanted privacy but that has become the narrative.

I am tired of correcting this narrative - it's a PM statement that anti M&H caught on and got carried away with as it suits their narrative.

They said they wanted privacy, remember?

They never said that. It's become a myth on these threads.
They want to be able to control the narrative, don't blame them given what it was like for them over here.

The saddest part of all this is that the two brothers probably need each other more than ever. The friends and family they can confide in must be tiny. Harry’s tactics are going to have a massive impact regarding trust. Harry appears vulnerable and fragile like his Mother. There will be all sorts of people falling over themselves to make money off his prestige/notoriety. These people are not his friends. Unfortunately, M&H are so blinded by their own arrogance and desire for the spotlight that they can’t see through this. I wish he would step back and focus his energy on being the ultimate Dad he craved. Those young years of his kids are going to be marred by onslaught of press intrusion.

@Angiedx

No they didn’t say they wanted privacy but that has become the narrative.

As is often the case a meaning is extrapolated from what was actually said and then touted as reality to the point that when repeated often enough it is treated as fact

Much the same as wanting a quiet life

What did they say, then? Remind me.

For those saying they didn’t want privacy
......So it’s wrong to assume they wanted to be out out the spotlight (at least for a while) therefore they moved to Canada because they were sick of the press?

Is that wrong?....

Oprah must be thanking her lucky stars the day that wedding invite landed
She probably never imagined in her wildest dreams she would make so much money out of Harry
I wonder if she provided his “therapist”

It is sad. They should be able to rely on each other. But one of them is doing his damnedest to damage that relationship. He must realise it.

I get that they both are hurting though. Those statements showed how much they still hurt.

I do not think that it was helpful for H to blame it for his mother’s death. That interview or the media was ultimately not to blame. It may well have caused her great anguish but it did not cause her death.

Harry's had how much therapy? And still he's not well? Doesn't look good for therapists does it? In his case they're making whatever problems he had/has worse.

@Blossomtoes

not my job to educate

It’s out there and available

I guess ultimately we are all guilty of feeding the beast just by virtue of us contributing to threads like this.

@TableFlowerss

For those saying they didn’t want privacy ......So it’s wrong to assume they wanted to be out out the spotlight (at least for a while) therefore they moved to Canada because they were sick of the press?

Is that wrong?....

I haven't ben following any of this at all, not really interested beyond feeling sorry for him and recognising some of his behaviour.

But I was listenting to a clip from someone, Oprah?, on the radio and it really did sound as though she were running him like she would have run one of her shows, which are, if she were honest, just a showbiz bluepirnt for all the Jeremy Kyles, a televisual version of those weekly magazines full of "My mother kept me in a cupboard" stories.

It is really plain to see/hear that he is in some turmoil and has found the much more free American way of dealing with emotions quite a liberation. But what happens when his catharsis is over and he starts working on building his new sense of self rather than deconstructing his old one? Will Oprah pay for that therapy too?

Especially with Diana throwing herself down the stairs when she was pregnant

Harry must be in a spin, what with his wife contemplating an almost-identical action, and then telling him about just before their penultimate event together in the UK.