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Harry's latest ventures

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Viviennemary · 15/05/2021 18:23

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

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OverByYer · 21/05/2021 07:42

He does really see Meghan as his saviour and seems to have changed the narrative to reflect that.
It is sad and his feelings are valid and much is probably true, but there was really no need to share in such a public and devastating way. I feel really sorry for Charles, William and the Queen.

ajandjjmum · 21/05/2021 07:42

@Selkie1961

It is awful the chain reaction it caused. Because after that interview The Queen ordered them to divorce which Diana didnt want. And then Charl3s did his interview in a tat for your tit move. And all because MB faked evidence to manipulate DIana. Wow, quite shocking really.
Wasn't the Charles interview done first?
lightand · 21/05/2021 07:45

I am not sure both of them are not all that far off a double tragedy ifyswim.
They need praying for.

coodawoodashooda · 21/05/2021 07:46

Yeah. The pp that mentions 'changing the narrative'. A real dangerous game Harry.

OverByYer · 21/05/2021 07:49

In the interview he says that the only reason Meghan didn’t kill herself is because she didn’t want him to lose another woman in his life.

That is a very concerning thing to say and prays on his insecurities. It’s controlling behaviour and not healthy.

OverByYer · 21/05/2021 07:52

*preys

Cinclus · 21/05/2021 07:55

And then Charl3s did his interview in a tat for your tit move.

Charles did his interview before Diana did hers.

But I love "tat for your tit" and will be using it daily Grin

mermaidsariel · 21/05/2021 07:56

@OverByYer

In the interview he says that the only reason Meghan didn’t kill herself is because she didn’t want him to lose another woman in his life.

That is a very concerning thing to say and prays on his insecurities. It’s controlling behaviour and not healthy.

Yes. I was really shocked when I read that. I have no doubt she could have found a therapist to work through her issues. I don’t believe that they were completely unable to access help and trapped as they say. After all, if H could find a therapist at her urging, why couldn’t she have found one? It’s nonsense. Rather than burdening him, she should have got professional help.
OverByYer · 21/05/2021 07:58

It’s not a healthy dynamic at all.

Angiedx · 21/05/2021 07:59

From Adil Ray

Here’s a quote for you, ‘I think when you have been through something traumatic in life, my mother dying when I was younger, your emotions come back in leaps and bounds because it’s a different phase of life.

“There’s no one here to kind of help you and I definitely found it very hard at times, overwhelming.’”

Adil continued: “That was from Prince William. We were not discussing whether Prince William should have said that.

“The implication, we could have taken that and said, ‘How dare he say the Royal Family were not there to help him?’

“Why is it one rule for Harry and another rule for William or Diana and when Charles was very open about his experiences at school in the past as well?”

Seems they both say they were not helped
Is it really such a stretch that two individuals have felt the same albeit to different extents and times frames

mermaidsariel · 21/05/2021 08:04

No one is saying William didn’t feel the loss of his mother just as acutely. In fact more so as he was the eldest . They should both have been offered therapy immediately. If they weren’t, it seems puzzling . Except that presumably Charles didn’t know any better . Diana was seeing a therapist at his urging for a while at his suggestion, so why charles didn’t organise help for his sons is hard to understand. Perhaps he didn’t realise how profoundly damaging these experiences were for both boys.

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OverByYer · 21/05/2021 08:06

Who is Adil Rey?

Roussette · 21/05/2021 08:09

Angiedx

Exactly.
They are both hurting and they are both allowed to talk about it. William talks about his mother's fear, isolation and paranoia that he remembers from his final years with her.

They are both talking about this. William's is more formal because his line to the throne, Harry's is on a different medium because he is making his life away from the confines of the RF.

William is applauded and feted. Harry is vilifed.

I am pleased they are both speaking out, albeit in different ways. And I dont' doubt what Harry is saying, either.

mermaidsariel · 21/05/2021 08:11

I haven’t heard William ever criticise his family or his father Rousette so it isn’t the same at all.

Nishky · 21/05/2021 08:14

@Roussette exactly and I think the age they each were affects it. I say this as two family members have had very different reactions to a traumatic incident in childhood.

Not giving details as too public, but it caused me some anger when I was younger and an older and wiser relative spoke to me about the age different.

Each experience will be different and those abusing William or Harry for their reaction are beneath contempt.

Itreallyistimetochangethings · 21/05/2021 08:23

@mermaidsariel

I haven’t heard William ever criticise his family or his father Rousette so it isn’t the same at all.
I really don't but this tradition of not being able to criticise parents. They often do wrong and the cycle repeats because people are afraid to speak out. Hence all the adult therapy Because they are the RF it should be kept under wraps ??- if their lifestyle was replicated in an ordinary home social services would have been in contact. Especially with Diana throwing herself down the stairs when she was pregnant. I am all for speaking and sharing - because the damage is far worse when it is kept closed within the family.
OverByYer · 21/05/2021 08:23

@Roussette yes they are both entitled to speak out, especially about how their mother was treated and I have every sympathy for them both.
But William isn’t attacking his own family in the way that Harry is. Harry talking as he is is just creating as much as a feeding frenzy as the Diana years.
I understand he is a man in pain but dealing with it so publicly is not doing him any favours IMO

Snugglepiggy · 21/05/2021 08:28

Both those boys suffered the trauma of losing their mother in the full glare of the public.Both those boys walked behind her coffin.I can't imagine that.Yet again I'm certain that not too long ago Harry said in hindsight he was glad he did that.And now he's not.Fair enough ,he's a working through his issues.But no doubt William is.And William doesn't resort to the sort of massively inflammatory comments Harry does.Now he's stated that his mother was chased to her death because she was in a relationship with someone who wasn't white.Really. ?!

ForgedInFire · 21/05/2021 08:28

When all of this started coming out I was firmly team H&M but with every interview I just find him more spoiled and out of touch.

GlencoraP · 21/05/2021 08:30

I see the point Angiedx and Rousette but I think the difference is that William is not using the interview as therapy , he is reporting his feelings. However hard he seems at least publicly to have reached a point of reconciliation with the past. My guess is that the stability and consistency of his wife and her family have a lot to do with this.

What is frankly so disturbing about Harry is that he is seemingly using these interviews and programmes as therapy in themselves , his issues are very clearly unresolved and he is by his own admission still working through therapy . He is very vulnerable and is lashing out because he is clearly desperately trying to find some peace.

Apparently in one part of the Apple series the viewer sits in in his therapy session which is a type of therapy where you relive trauma . I think this is very worrying and honestly far too intrusive and I cannot believe that this is good for his long term mental health.

Cinclus · 21/05/2021 08:31

I think the difference between the two, and why Harry sometimes tends to come off worse, isn't the degree of formality, it's that Harry criticises other people directly and William doesn't. Now maybe that's because Charles helped William and neglected Harry, so William has less to complain about, or maybe William has more compassion for his father's position, or is naturally more reticent, or more forgiving, or feels that publicly criticising people who can't really answer back would be unhelpful and would detract from the purpose of encouraging people to talk about mental health, who knows?

But I can see why it might come across to some as William sharing his experience and Harry having a go at his family.

The other thing is Harry has lied about who suggested he have therapy, which throws a different light on what he says. To some people it will reinforce the idea that his main focus is emphasising how horrible his family is and how great Meghan is, rather than helping others. Even to the point of pretending he didn't get any help from William when he has already told us that he did.

lightand · 21/05/2021 08:31

@Roussette Do you think that by the way Harry is speaking publicaly for they world to hear, that that helps heal family rifts?

HeadNorth · 21/05/2021 08:33

Charles publically criticised his father. And although it is all pitchforks for Martin Bashir, remember Charles had gone on ITV a year before to talk about his adultery, which I think may have been a tad more upsetting for his wife than a dishonest journalist. Still, the BBC is a handy shield for the RF to hide behind.

Roussette · 21/05/2021 08:33

I haven’t heard William ever criticise his family or his father Rousette so it isn’t the same at all

Totally the same. His hands are tied within the RF but as has been pointed out in mine and Angie's posts, he has said as much as he can say, given his position.

@Itreallyistimetochangethings
I totally agree.
I loathe the 'brush it under the carpet' mindset. It creates massive problems for the individual. The Monarchy and the RF is protected at the expense of the individuals within it.

All this, all how Diana was treated, the boys, the stiff upper lip, the protect the Monarchy at all costs... well... that mindset needs change. I don't think anyone on here can deny that. Or can they?

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