Harry's latest ventures

[Viviennemary]

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

@Aspiringmatriarch

Lol can't believe people on here are seriously criticising them for building a relief centre.

THEY are not building it. Nor are they financing it. They are just claiming credit for it.

@Roussette

I have said many a time they can be a couple of twerps, so I am not 'some'. They make mistakes, they are imperfect like many others.

Saying what he said inflamed the far right media big time.. the likes of Sean Hannity and Ted Cruz.

I think this article sums up how I feel nicely..

He will have learned from it I'm sure. Of course, me saying that opens me up for all sorts, but there you go...

So because the far right have denounced Harry then that means it was OK for him to say what he did. Imagine if William had said it...

THEY are not building it. Nor are they financing it. They are just claiming credit for it.

I'm not sure that's correct.

They are working with World Centre Kitchens who will build/manage/staff the centres but Archewell are funding the build.

@DeRigueurMortis

THEY are not building it. Nor are they financing it. They are just claiming credit for it.

I'm not sure that's correct.

They are working with World Centre Kitchens who will build/manage/staff the centres but Archewell are funding the build.

Who is paying Archwell to do this because it isn’t their personal money.

M&H do a lot of good work and I hope they continue and do not back down. At the same time they will
Make mistakes because they are so high profile they do need to be more careful and understand what they are responding to. Harry was Out of his depth on this occasion but I believe he will ride it out - I don't believe he will be a security target for this reason as someone suggested - this is more likely to be because he is married to a WoC. But nevertheless there are always people waiting for him to make a mistake so that they can create a negative post and reach 1k posts on a MN thread. Boris has said far worse in the UK about minorities and there was far less of an outcry from the British people. .

I didn't say that derxa did I ? Why are you saying that I said it was OK? I didn't.

I said he made a mistake, and learning from it.

And it did inflame the far right, so not sure why you are assuming from that, I mean that it is OK.

I don't post negatively about William so also not sure what that's got to do with it.

Who is paying Archwell to do this because it isn’t their personal money

I'm not sure you are au fait with how charitable foundations work. And what do you know about their personal money?

WC Kitchens are enormously grateful for their help and support and have said so on many occasions.

It's a great initiative.

Who is paying Archwell to do this because it isn’t their personal money.

Well that's not clear....

That said I'm not too fussed about it.

WCK seems like an excellent charity and however Archewell provides the funds to them doesn't in my view reduce the legitimacy of supporting them being a good thing.

If their platform encourages donations to their foundation that are used wisely I don't understand why anyone would have an issue with that. It's no different to The Gates Foundation spending money that has been donated by people other than the Gates family (such as Warren Buffet).

Ive been pretty critical of many of the things they've done but I see no reason not to give credit when it's due - otherwise it's surely just the same in reverse as people who are determined to sing their praises even when they've behaved badly.

"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's Archewell Foundation has helped support the completion of an emergency relief centre in #Dominica. World Central Kitchen announced that the construction of the first community relief centre has been completed."

"This is first of four community centers being built by Harry & Meghan with Jose Andres and WC Kitchen. It’s going to make a huge difference in the communities. Kudos."

That was tweets from the Caribbean News Network.

I assume it isn’t their personal money but it is it would be interesting to know. I’m ni au fair with how charities work , but surely they have to raise the money somehow legitimately, not just ask their rich friends to donate. Otherwise it’s a load of rich people giving some money to a cause . They don’t need H and M as middle men at all:

@mermaidsariel

I assume it isn’t their personal money but it is it would be interesting to know. I’m ni au fair with how charities work , but surely they have to raise the money somehow legitimately, not just ask their rich friends to donate. Otherwise it’s a load of rich people giving some money to a cause . They don’t need H and M as middle men at all:

Foundations work because not everyone wants to donate "direct".

Sometimes it might be for reasons of privacy, other times it might be because the value the overall aims of the foundation and believe they can better target the money than could be achieved by individual donations, other times there's a "trust" in the heads of the Foundation (the Gates being good examples) that they will through experience/intellect/contacts make better use of the money etc

It's not about being a middle man per se.

However if H&M want to draw in the philanthropic big bucks they will have to prove that the foundation is a better bet than individual charitable giving by virtue of results.

Which is why working with a well respected and established charity like WCK is a good idea.

@Roussette

I didn't say that derxa did I ? Why are you saying that I said it was OK? I didn't.

I said he made a mistake, and learning from it.

And it did inflame the far right, so not sure why you are assuming from that, I mean that it is OK.

I don't post negatively about William so also not sure what that's got to do with it.

Fair enough but implying that only the far right are annoyed is a bit much. There was a recent bit of outrage against Americans complaining about the 'Queen of England' and the recent Queen's Speech. People don't like foreigners trashing their country's political traditions.

I was wondering where Archewell gets its funds from. Is it like Proctor and Gambol and other companies donate money. And maybe people like Oprah and the Cloonies.

Yes it’s a mystery to me how these things work. It just annoys me that they are claiming credit when they don’t donate themselves or actually do anything apart from boast about how philanthropical they are.

I’m not au fait with how charities work , but surely they have to raise the money somehow legitimately, not just ask their rich friends to donate

TBF that's a pretty common way of raising charitable funds, and not just for the RF - though Charles does it all the time, with his paid-for dinners where yet more gouging follows widely reported

That said, does anyone know if Archewell's accounts are publicly available? I'm no specialist in charity law, though I realise the regs around them can be different, but surely there's information available somewhere?

'WCK seems like an excellent charity and however Archewell provides the funds to them doesn't in my view reduce the legitimacy of supporting them being a good thing.'

Yes it is great news. Let's hope they don't hijack it by hosting interviews about themselves and shoehorn in their personal hardships. They wouldn't do it again surely.. perhaps they will indeed learn from their mistakes. We can but hope.

Fair enough but implying that only the far right are annoyed is a bit much

I read quite a few news sources and that seemed to be the case.

It just annoys me that they are claiming credit when they don’t donate themselves or actually do anything apart from boast about how philanthropical they are

You know they don't, do you?
They have donated to different causes actually but you would probably prefer not to know that.
And where do they errrmmm.... 'boast?'

Yes, Charles has a charitable trust too but again that's not criticised. Only H&M

I think PH must have an idea of the current racial tensions in the USA. He must be aware of the ease of access to guns and how people, without public profile, have been murdered for no reason. Commenting on a heated political subject that he doesn’t know much about, in a foreign country, is going to attract unwanted attention. It is not the brightest thing to do if you have issues with having the right security to protect your family.
I’m not up to speed with the full detail of the First Amendment but is ‘freedom of speech’ not part of it?

Archewell is not a charity it is a Foundation in US law . We don’t really have the same thing here .

To call themselves a Foundation they only need to give 5% of their net profit to charity . So that’s profit after office costs , directors salaries etc , it’s really not a charity at all in the U.K. sense of the word

@Myphone

I think PH must have an idea of the current racial tensions in the USA. He must be aware of the ease of access to guns and how people, without public profile, have been murdered for no reason. Commenting on a heated political subject that he doesn’t know much about, in a foreign country, is going to attract unwanted attention. It is not the brightest thing to do if you have issues with having the right security to protect your family. I’m not up to speed with the full detail of the First Amendment but is ‘freedom of speech’ not part of it?

Problem is that PH is NOT bright. He might be a nice guy at heart, but I thinl it is fairly clear that up until about 3 years ago he has been cosseted and protected from himself by people a very great ddeal smarter than him who were being paid to look out for him. He has thrown that all away and is now completely rudderless.

To call themselves a Foundation they only need to give 5% of their net profit to charity . So that’s profit after office costs , directors salaries etc

Sounds a pretty convenient sort of vehicle to use ...

Myphone The text of the First Amendment is here - as you'll see it's pretty brief but very important: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

It's hard not to wonder if it's freedom of speech and especially the press which irks Harry - perhaps, since he's expressed pretty strong views, he'll expand on this in future?

@GlencoraP

Archewell is not a charity it is a Foundation in US law . We don’t really have the same thing here .

To call themselves a Foundation they only need to give 5% of their net profit to charity . So that’s profit after office costs , directors salaries etc , it’s really not a charity at all in the U.K. sense of the word

I was shocked to find this out from one of these threads. Hopefully Archewell donates 95% with minimal expenses, but the fact that others obviously get away with this is shocking. Not charity in my book!

@RubyViolet

The First Amendment comments were uninformed and showed his ignorance on the US constitution. But calling it “bonkers” when you are embarking on a mental health awareness campaign is completely foot in mouth. In fact l would go as far to say it has echoes of his Grandpa’s famous Phillipisms. Total cringe.

I agree. It’s on a par with saying the parking at a psychiatric hospital is insane.

Harry has almost certainly had his previous speeches written for him and he has been better prepared for them. He seems to struggle ad lib.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

To call themselves a Foundation they only need to give 5% of their net profit to charity . So that’s profit after office costs , directors salaries etc

Sounds a pretty convenient sort of vehicle to use ...

Myphone The text of the First Amendment is here - as you'll see it's pretty brief but very important: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

It's hard not to wonder if it's freedom of speech and especially the press which irks Harry - perhaps, since he's expressed pretty strong views, he'll expand on this in future?

Very convenient to set up a Foundation, and pay yourselves in salary and expenses 95% of the money donated for simply posting a few photos and deciding where to donate a tiny amount of the money raised.

I think that in a couple of years this will be H&M's main source of income.

The Archewell website mentions many people over the past year have been donating in Archie's name. How Archie will feel about being a source of income for the family in years to come could be an issue.