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Harry’s podcast

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smilesy · 13/05/2021 21:27

Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

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00100001 · 14/05/2021 11:58

@CaribGrackle

I wonder if William and Catherine will pack their kids off to boarding school and, if so, at what age?
probably - because W&K are going to have to do more work now that PP is gone, HMQ is reducing work and PH has fucked off.
00100001 · 14/05/2021 11:59

@derxa - I don't think PW and his family are "upper middle class"...they're Upper Class... the Highest Upper Class possible...

Roussette · 14/05/2021 12:01

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Smashingorbs · 14/05/2021 12:01

@bluebell34567

he is like a loose canon like Diana became in her later years.
Do you know where that phrase "loose cannon* came from in relation to Diana?

She was touring Angola in 1997 , for the HALO Trust which had been working to clear land mines in the region for three years. At the time Angola had more land mines than any other country in the world I think, it was certainly ravaged by civil war and a dangerous place to visit.

The BBC alleged that the comment came from Junior Defence Minister, Earl Howe, although he later distanced himself from them. He ( Tory) basically said that Diana was aligning herself with the Labour opposition who were calling for an immediate British ban on landmines and called her a loose cannon. Diana insisted she was there for humanitarian reasons only.

This was all very dubious because it was not long after her divorce from Charles during the period when Nicolas Soames (senior colleague of said Tory Minister) and a known friend of the Prince of Wales, and his cronies, were allegedly briefing against Diana.

It was all a load of crap too as the founder of the organisation said Diana's involvement in the issue was a turning point in the fight for a ban:

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-41111012

"Just over three months after her death, 122 governments signed up to the Ottawa Treaty, which aimed to eliminate the production and use of mines."

And as Time magazine reported, the exposure she gave the issue created an added impetus for the treaty process:

“[President Bill] Clinton and his wife Hillary had been touched by the Princess of Wales’ poignant visits to young victims of such mines in Bosnia and Angola a few weeks ago. After her death, the [mine bans] treaty being written in Oslo took on the luster of a humanitarian memorial to Diana and her cause.”

It's such a shame that phrase has stuck with her when it had such dubious, not to mention erroneous, origins.

00100001 · 14/05/2021 12:01

@Cacacoisfarraige

W&K and H&M’s kids are being brought up differently. It will be interesting in 20/30 years to see how the social experiment will work.

It’s like a Royal version of the Parent Trap as it is unlikely they will spend meaningful time together.

K&W have the benefit of extended families and cousins/second cousins, while M&H have her mum too to help.

H&M would have had family and extended families to help...if they hadn't moved to the US and alienated H's side of the family 🤷‍♀️
Laburnam · 14/05/2021 12:03

Who really cares, he needs to stop playing the victim, hating press intrusion but using it to play the victim.
He has enough money to go away and live a v nice life privately. V lucky to be able to do this without ever having done a days work in his life 🤮
No sympathy at all

Gorgeouslilgirl · 14/05/2021 12:03

I generally think that discussions about MH amongst men is a good thing.
There will of course be the typical response from some “oh stop whining” which is why men are so afraid to open up in the first place.
This is a good article
www.independent.co.uk/voices/prince-harry-podcast-mental-health-b1847396.html

Whythesadface · 14/05/2021 12:03

I'm sure I read somewhere that Meghan has fallen out with her mum.
Fancy that.

SueSaid · 14/05/2021 12:03

'One is the heir, the other is the spare. Can you imagine being the sibling who wasn't expected to amount to much, next to the one who would go on to be King?'

Yes it'd be great, all the privilege with none of the responsibility and duty.
Only an attention seeker would feel aggrieved. Oh wait..

lavenderandwisteria · 14/05/2021 12:04

Exactly derxa

Kate is ‘one of us.’ If PW had gone to any other RG institution it could have been us. Not that different ... except they are.

derxa · 14/05/2021 12:04

[quote 00100001]@derxa - I don't think PW and his family are "upper middle class"...they're Upper Class... the Highest Upper Class possible...[/quote]
You're right they're aristocracy with a middle class veneer I suppose.

Roussette · 14/05/2021 12:05

I'm sure I read somewhere that Meghan has fallen out with her mum

Unless you can provide a legitimate source that isn't the DM (who have an agenda against her) that is obviously not true.

Fancy that, that someone comes on here with that statement

MintyMabel · 14/05/2021 12:18

What you mean Meghan pointing out he still spoke to his family? Yes, she'd find that strange.

Because she was raised in a single parent household she had a shit upbringing? Because she has a complicated relationship with her father, she wouldn't recognise the kind of fucked up dynamics the Royal Family allegedly has?

Yes it'd be great, all the privilege with none of the responsibility and duty.

Again, what level of income do you believe is the cut off for experiencing family problems?

I'm sure I read somewhere that Meghan has fallen out with her mum.

Oh you read it somewhere did you? Must be true, eh?

smilesy · 14/05/2021 12:18

@Gorgeouslilgirl. I absolutely agree that men should open up about their MH. In fact I’m sure everyone agrees. I have three sons and I would like to think I have impressed upon them how important being open and taking about your feelings is. But opening up about your MH issues is not the same as suggesting that you have been subjected to bad parenting, as was your father, on a podcast for public consumption. Or saying that your brother and father are trapped without any evidence that they feel the same way as you. That is just mud slinging.

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mermaidsariel · 14/05/2021 12:18

[quote 00100001]@derxa - I don't think PW and his family are "upper middle class"...they're Upper Class... the Highest Upper Class possible...[/quote]
Upper class is aristocracy. They aren’t aristocracy, even though Diana was.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/05/2021 12:19

While I have empathy for anyone with MH problems attacking and blaming others constantly and publicly is not healthy or constructive

Exactly this. It may feel good at the time, especially when those thinking only of the £££ are fawning all over you, but it can also be very damaging in the long run - not just to those being complained about but to the sufferer too

mermaidsariel · 14/05/2021 12:21

It’s laughable that Meghan should be pointing out the shortcomings of H’s family. Her own isn’t any example of harmony or normality.

cuparfull · 14/05/2021 12:26

Why so we even give them the time and space for this wingefest! Begone into oblivion. And bloody stop using their titles for financial gain then perhaps they will be left in peace.

Roussette · 14/05/2021 12:27

Nowhere has Meghan said that her family is an example or harmony or normality. It so obviously isn't.

So she can recognise signs.

artquejtion · 14/05/2021 12:30

I agree. I just don't see any signs of anything being different from how C&D brought him up. The christening footage with the carriage pram and the Norland nanny was just so peculiar...

Totally ! I actually believe that H&M were the catalyst for W&K realising they needed to change their stiff and formal appearance.

IcedPurple · 14/05/2021 12:36

@MsTSwift

For all the wealth I think the whole concept of the royal family is actually cruel. He didn’t ask to be born into that. He would be so much happier being a pleasant hooray Henry estate agent with a horsey wife.
Well, none of us get to dictate the circumstances into which we are born, but Harry's lot in life seems pretty good. Fantastic wealth and luxury, entirely unearned, people literally bowing to you and calling you 'Your royal highness'. Do you really think a man of his intellectual abilities - or lack thereof - would have had a better deal in life had he been born on a council estate in Middlesborough?

And there was nothing stopping him marrying a horsey upper class girl if he wanted. This is probably what he was expected to do. He chose to marry an actress who loves the spotlight and run off to the paparazzi capital of the world.

KarensChoppyBob · 14/05/2021 12:38

I'll never grasp the sheer hatred directed at these two.

Oh they're Royal/privileged/famous so they should just accept all the 'hate'.

Oh their mental health can't possibly have been affected by their lives so far, the privileged twunts. Wanting to give their children a different life, selfish idiots. Not to mention being happy and in love, such a crime.

They should be keeping a stiff upper lip no?

I hope they and their family thrive, mainly right now just to see the cats' bum mouths reactions here.

mermaidsariel · 14/05/2021 12:39

Trouble is he has no clue what life on a council estate in Middlesbrough would be like. If he did he might wake up to himself.

MmeLaraque · 14/05/2021 12:39

The fact he was surprised he was “frozen out “ means he doesn’t have full capacity to weigh up consequences

@Lockupyourbiscuits

Interesting. Do you know what "having capacity" means? I do. The MCA is a very interesting and sometimes complicated piece of legislation to apply. That application is rarely done by someone who's never met the person they're applying it to, because that's not considered acceptable. SO I'm guessing you're not a MH professional.

KarensChoppyBob · 14/05/2021 12:40

@cuparfull

Why so we even give them the time and space for this wingefest! Begone into oblivion. And bloody stop using their titles for financial gain then perhaps they will be left in peace.
Exactly.

Why are you posting then?