Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

@orangeblosssom

Hope they come back to the UK soon and are welcomed.

Hope they stay where they are and are happy

@Nanasueathome

Harry was unable to help Meghan re her mental health when she requested and needed assistance and advice Be interesting what he has to say with Oprah

H&M were highlighting a time when they were following protocol at the palace and were blocked from seeking help. Obviously MM is fine now and credits H for helping her. He took her out of the situation (was it not the haters who claimed that when they disappeared for 6 weeks, they were at a rehab/mh centre. They claimed the NY photo of Archie that year was taken there). Not saying any of that is true, but they did not go into details about her recovery, probably because they don't want the tabloids to track it down and splash MM innermost thoughts all over the papers.

Judging by the number of people who complained after GMB, I think a lot of people will like the idea that H knows personally how useless and ashamed they feel to have a close loved one suffering and not know what to do. He will be talking about something he has experienced himself.

On another note, I hope Lady Gaga addresses how Piers Morgan accused her of lying about her rape.

@smilesy and @LittleBearPad

Fair enough. And that is very good.

I was actually referring to the UK/EU squabble mostly. I remember the debate was for us to help others also vaccinate their elderly and vulnerable, vs keeping it all and vaccinating the whole* population.

Global Citizen is saying stop politicising the vaccines.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/rich-countries-give-money-keep-vaccines-themselves/618437/

Yet the U.S. vaccine pledge is also a notable exception to the overall pattern: In a fight against a disease that crosses borders and has killed millions of people globally, the powerful countries with the best access to vaccines have kept an overwhelming number of available doses for themselves. Wealthy democracies have generously given money to the multinational COVID-19 Vaccine Global Access program, or COVAX, but they have been far less eager to part with doses that could quickly go into their own citizens’ arms.

H&M have donated hats to be distributed to the homeless in New Zealand. For Archie's 2nd birthday.

www.instagram.com/p/COoUyX7j2US/

@Mummy194. I don’t think if someone is feeling suicidal you take any notice of protocol. You get them help however you can.

Well, let's see now.

You take the bull by the horns. The 'palace sources' realise that you are missing, so they track you via security and tip off the press. MM's intimate thoughts are spread all over the tabloids - a bit like PC phone calls to Camilla. You are giving the palace deniability too. At the same time, surely having her treatment splashed all over the tabloids would have made things worse.

They did the right thing. Follow protocol (they were probably hoping for the same treatment that H, W and PC had received at that point). It was not given, so he took her out of the palace and the toxic situation. That seems to have worked, as she is fine now.

'The 'palace sources' realise that you are missing, so they track you via security and tip off the press'

Oh stop it. They have direct access to their own royal Doctors! they do not need to ask HR to make an appointment for them. Do you think HR were contacted when her waters broke??

They have their own psychologists hanging around the palace?

First I hear of that.

'They have their own psychologists hanging around the palace?'

Well I'm sure they aren't 'hanging around around the palace' but they have direct access to private healthcare with trusted healthcare professionals available 24/7. This notion that HR would be involved is as ridiculous as many other claims.

They may have GPs on call, but I doubt psychologists. Even the line 'will not look good for the reputation of the palace' (along those lines) suggest that such specialists need to be arranged specifically, under strict circumstances.

Even when it was reported how H,W and PC got their help regarding the death of D, it seems that was something that was carefully planned and arranged.

Besides which she was presumably in contact with her gynaecologist, and antenatal mental health is very important. Indeed one of the female gynaecologists at the hospital she used is a specialist in antenatal mental health. I did have a link. I might find it again.

If she was having a heart attack, do you think they would have to go through HR? Mental health can be just as acute. To say that someone who is feeling suicidal would be denied access to health care is rubbish. Imagine if she had gone through with it?

@Mummy194

They have their own psychologists hanging around the palace?

First I hear of that.

Except that Diana herself stated in her interview that she was given a list of therapist's and asked to choose

William and Harry have been open about needing and receiving mental health support due to the loss of there mother

I'm not anti meghan but I dont believe she would have been denied mental health care or that Harry didn't know how to get it to her

It doesnt make sense

Is this gynaecologist working Monday to Wednesday on that role, and then as a Psychologist Thursday and Friday?

It's like saying your Health Visitor will do your Midwife work for you. They know something about childbirth and antennal depression, but may not be exactly what you need for a complicated birth.

Doesn't sound like this is what she was looking for. For suicide, I think you need a proper dedicated person, and that sounds like what she was asking for and was not given.

'They may have GPs on call, but I doubt psychologists'

They will have whole teams at their disposal. HR is not the first port of call for a member of the RF. The rf's own private physician is on hand and will refer to a whole array of private consultants. They are all privileged remember! I'm not disputing either needed mh support but the HR office isn't where you go, as they know very well.

We are asked to believe that two people, who rejected all the usual medical staff for pregnancy and childbirth, are lacking confidence to source their own mental health support. Maybe the very private OB/gyn team that supported through the pregnancy (still unknown to this day) could have also suggested how to access help. If not, then H&M show they can source their own medical help anyhow.

H&M refused the usual RF holidays with family to Balmoral etc and preferred private holidays they arranged themselves.

There may not have been much time for mental health support in between all the discussions with their Hollywood agent - they were only in RF for 18 months before going to Canada in November 2019 -and there were book deals, Quibi, Netflix style programmes in discussion whilst supposedly committed to hit the floor running as working royals.

It is laughable to suggest HR said no and that was the end of it for H&M. HR would be nonplussed to be asked by two people constantly pushing boundaries of protocol and demanding answers for half-in/half-out - remember H&M wouldn't wait any longer for discussions with RF and decided to leave.

@smilesy

If she was having a heart attack, do you think they would have to go through HR? Mental health can be just as acute. To say that someone who is feeling suicidal would be denied access to health care is rubbish. Imagine if she had gone through with it?

A heart attack is hardly the same, since you can see the symptoms and repercussions immediately. That is the whole issue being raised about MH, you cannot see it, therefore it's easy to take lightly.

@Theunamedcat

that was kind of the main points of the interview, that MM was treated differently to everyone else. No half in half out, we cannot pay for you, Archie will not receive his title when PC becomes king etc.

Other than Meghan stating that Archie will not receive his ‘Prince’ title when Charles becomes king has this ever been reported anywhere else?

'A heart attack is hardly the same, since you can see the symptoms and repercussions immediately. That is the whole issue being raised about MH, you cannot see it, therefore it's easy to take lightly.'

I doubt their private doctors are quite as thick as you seem to think they are. There is a lot of awareness about mental health issues, it isn't the last century where it would be swept under the carpet. A member of the rf would be referred immediately for confidential, expert help.

@mummy194. Are you saying that women who suffer antenatal depression don’t ever feel suicidal? Are you belittling the expertise of a qualified obgynae to be able to at least spot the signs that someone under their care is in severe mental distress? Would she then not be able to refer them to someone else if necessary? Is she not an approachable person that a pregnant lady would feel they could talk to? This is a health professional that Meghan had access to. But, no she goes to the palace HR that deals with staff, not members of the family. As pp said, I’m not saying she wasn’t in distress, I’m saying that she and indeed Harry as her loving husband could have got help.

Here is the LinkedIn profile of the lady I previously read about
uk.linkedin.com/in/mskarenjoash

Whatever your leanings, it is distasteful to talk about another persons MH issues iwith anything but compassion.

If you don’t have compassion, it is best to say nothing at all.

'Whatever your leanings, it is distasteful to talk about another persons MH issues iwith anything but compassion.'

I'm not talking about anyone's mh issues. I am pointing out they will have a whole private medical/mh team of experts at their disposal.

Works both ways - Meghan's family clearly have issues with wider mental health and prone to emotional outbursts etc.

I don't think the mental health of anyone in the RF is helped by Harry's outbursts.

As long as everyone is included - some people are not comfortable "sharing" their mental health struggles - do you dismiss that H&M's behaviour could cause damage to other family members mental health?

Most people could have had it out with Harry in private (no such think though with him), however RF are unable to resolve it the way any other family would. They are bad if they do/bad if they don't forgive Harry. Most people wouldn't forgive him, might nod to him at family events but would never trust him again - would be very bad for anyone's mental health to suggest the RF must forgive Harry.