Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

@Roussette

That's a bit of a stretch even for you Janiie. Not on point.

I cannot tie up the milk advert with Palace resplendent in the background with anything remotely like that for H&M. Not seen an advert done by them, unless you have

It does not end there for Peter Philipps. He also took advantage of the pandemic by joining a Covid testing company. They charged over £200 a pop for a test. I remember this, because I was looking for some private tests locally at the time and found this steep.

No outrage about him taking advantage and these exorbitant prices. What does he know about medical and bio things anyway.

www.tatler.com/article/peter-phillips-making-profit-from-pandemic-xf-medical-limited

Yes I know there are middle of the road posters amused and from them interesting discussion happens.

Unfortunately the ones that absolutely despise H&M to the point of ridiculousness, means that decent dialogue can't happen.

@CokeDrinker

It beggar's belief that a feminist was wearing designer clothes but they were paid for by her father in law, using a title by virtue of marriage

Oh for fucks sake! I really thought we'd jumped the shark ages ago with the 'what about the starving in Africa!' and 'what about all those in India dying of the Pandemic!', but now we have someone saying that you can't be a feminist if you wear designer clothes (eh? wtf? or have a title by marriage? How desperate and pathetic do you really truly have to be, to stretch so much, that you embarrass yourself like this? Where's the self respect?

Is there a saying for someone who has jumped over the jumped the shark? Because I think we've just achieved it. Fuck me dead!

Not all saying you can't be feminist if you wear designer clothes, BUT wearing designer clothes you've bagged for free because your fil paid for them whilst moaning you're not OK in a poverty stricken place isn't a good look.

Go over on the feminist boards they don't even advocate taking husbands name or to be a Mrs, so a Feminist wouldn't take Duchess title or let her husband's father "keep her".

She had a job to do in Africa and that was to represent the Queen. Moan about your life in private.

I didn't bring up that comment first, I was merely saying that that's, for me, when the tide started to turn for them and the Press saw it too.

And yes, other Royals have blabbed and told their story sometimes too, and they were slated for it and quickly realised what they did, and all have learnt from it. Yes, others in RF can be hypocritical too, don't think many would deny it but they don't do it to the same extent, and often it separates out their working or non working life, they do their job and get on with it.

'I cannot tie up the milk advert with Palace resplendent in the background with anything remotely like that for H&M. Not seen an advert done by them, unless you have'

No not a milk advert but commercial gain through royal connections are all much of a muchness tbh, whether it's selling milk or children's books it is the principle. The product doesn't really matter, people buy it because the vip with Royal connections is behind it.

It's not a new concept is it. The point is you can't then criticise the institution that is giving you this financial advantage. Well the Sussexes can and do and it's that jars.

Gosh, we're covering the lot today aren't we?

The feminist angle, the 3 years ago South Africa answered a question angle, the P&G angle, I wonder what's next?

The particular problem here though is that H&M have accused someone of speculating about the colour of their sons skin and implied that the speaker would prefer them to have lighter skin. Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams .

Erm, because skin whitening creams are there for the purpose of those who have skin conditions and people who are trying to permanently 'blend' some dark spots to the rest of their skin, just like any blender from Loreal, etc. What has that got to do with Archie?

The thing is I don't disagree with H about his childhood, I've always been critical of the Royal way of raising children. The cold distance of just meeting up with your kids, daily, weekly, etc. Implies a very strange relationship.

Diana made some changes to that based on the failings of her own childhood, Charles was much more hands on than his parents, especially when they were little. I have no doubt the Queen wasn't a great mother, particularly to Charles and Anne.

C&W seem to be trying to do it differently, I think K having a relatively normal family life helps.

MM it seems also has a disfunctional family and therefore they have no role models, it's harder for them in a way, so their way of breaking the cycle is more extreme. IMO of course because I don't know any of these people.

@GlencoraP

For what it’s worth I think more care should be taken with Royal Warrants etc and maybe it should be removed.

The particular problem here though is that H&M have accused someone of speculating about the colour of their sons skin and implied that the speaker would prefer them to have lighter skin. Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams .

Can no one see the inappropriateness of this . What were they are their advisors thinking .

I think you are beyond stretching and reaching with this, that the words have lost all meaning.

Seriously, you can't be serious. What next will you compare it with?

Can people please stop over-jumping over the jump the shark? Or should that be out-jumping the jump the shark. This is just getting ridiculous. There is no comparison to a world-renowned skin cosmetics company and a family member making a racist comment. I thought we out-jumped the shark before. I fear people are so incredibly desperate to reach and flail for a reason to rag on Meghan, that I thought we'd reached the ultimate rock bottom, now I see people are out-jumping the over-jumping the jump the shark, that there really is no low. People are that desperate, that shallow, that petty they will link anything. It's now in QAnon Conspiracy level.

'Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams .Can no one see the inappropriateness of this . What were they are their advisors thinking'

Yes they need to Google don't they.

Nonsense to the ops suggestion they are for 'blending purposes'. Can you imagine if someone presented meghan with a pot of it.

Mummy194 I think you need to read more widely on this controversy. Even if you don’t think it’s that relevant surely their advisors should at the moment have been steering them away from anything that could bring poor publicity and towards things that will show them in a favourable light , they just seem to keep scoring own goals.

Coke can you stop going on about jumping sharks

MM it seems also has a disfunctional family and therefore they have no role models,

I would say Doria is a bloody good role model from what I've seen.

Yes, it is desperation. And has been since MM appeared on the scene. I have read the most ridiculous criticisms on here in the past. So much so, I have to pinch myself.

And as I've said before... even if you didn't hear a squeak from them for weeks or months (as happened when they moved), that didnt stop the threads. Posters just regurgitated old stuff, bit like today and the SA answering of a question.

I wonder when we'll get to avocados, her dog, and the dark nail varnish. We haven't had those for a while. They're due an airing I would imagine
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@Roussette

I thought the feminist and designer clothes was a joke?! Surely its not meant seriously.

I think Meghan needs to cover herself in sackcloth and little Archie should wear woad.

I would like to think it was Roussette but this thread has shown me never to underestimate the level of lunacy around Meghan, how irrational and eaten up with hate some posters are, how Meghan truly makes some posters unhinged that I would put nothing past them and would in fact bet my house and salary that they meant it. They even had a go at her for having a title through marriage. So, sadly, I think it was meant seriously.

How do you get this from what Meghan said? It's very much not the same, is it?

I’m not. I’m just saying that Coke thinks that anyone questioning the optics of the MM/PH interview in SA by default should also then be shoehorning the poverty situation in SA randomly across threads anywhere and everywhere on MN otherwise, if we are not doing this then we are just using the situation there as a stick to beat MM/PH with. I’d bring it up as and where appropriate. Just seems a bit of an odd thing to say that’s all.

The particular problem here though is that H&M have accused someone of speculating about the colour of their sons skin and implied that the speaker would prefer them to have lighter skin. Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams.

I'm not sure that one has much to do with the other. Not that I'm suggesting Proctor and Gamble is unproblematic. But it sounds odd to hold someone who has experienced racism to an extra high standard. By all means criticise the company or their association with it, but not because of anything they've said.

'this thread has shown me never to underestimate the level of lunacy around Meghan, how irrational and eaten up with hate some posters are, how Meghan truly makes some posters unhinged'

I don't think 'lunacy' is a very PC or #bekind word to use these days I'd rethink that in future if I were you.

Fwiw I really do not 'hate' either of them I just think to rightly advocate for compassion and kindness but to show absolutely neither to your own families is a bit rich that is all.

@Hanidjed7 You have a strange definition of feminism. I am active on many feminist boards and Facebook pages, and many of us have taken our husbands names, a couple who have titles ie Lady, Baroness use those titles and I dare you suggest to their faces they are not 'feminist'.

She was asked a question off the side. Not while talking to Africans. She answered in briefly. She didn't 'moan'. Stop making false claims.

My point is not whether they should or shouldn’t but about the optics . It is already being criticised in the US . Why jump into the lions den if you don’t have to

'this thread has shown me never to underestimate the level of lunacy around Meghan, how irrational and eaten up with hate some posters are, how Meghan truly makes some posters unhinged'

I agree that lunacy, and also unhinged, are not acceptable words to use.

The sentiment of what you have said, however, goes both ways. Some people are irrationally in support no matter what, and some are the opposite. The same for Harry.

'She had a job to do in Africa and that was to represent the Queen. Moan about your life in private'

Yes that doesn't sound too complicated does it.

@StormzyinaTCup

How do you get this from what Meghan said? It's very much not the same, is it?

I’m not. I’m just saying that Coke thinks that anyone questioning the optics of the MM/PH interview in SA by default should also then be shoehorning the poverty situation in SA randomly across threads anywhere and everywhere on MN otherwise, if we are not doing this then we are just using the situation there as a stick to beat MM/PH with. I’d bring it up as and where appropriate. Just seems a bit of an odd thing to say that’s all.

No, you compared Meghan being upset in SA to her complaining about the lack of gluten-free options while others (presumably) starve. In other words, trivial rich people problems. But it's not trivial if you're being bullied or you're in a dark place mentally.

@JaniieJones

'Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams .Can no one see the inappropriateness of this . What were they are their advisors thinking'

Yes they need to Google don't they.

Nonsense to the ops suggestion they are for 'blending purposes'. Can you imagine if someone presented meghan with a pot of it.

Michael Jackson. Vitiligo.

That is all.

Gosh!

Could some of the 'whateverwordyouchoose' perhaps #bekind?

@JaniieJones

Coke can you stop going on about jumping sharks

Lol I wish I could. I wish people would stop jumping them.