Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

@SetPhasersTaeMalkie

I don't see the fuss about what Meghan said during the tour of Africa. I actually felt sorry for her as she was under a huge amount of pressure from the press and had been for a while.

I don't think everything they do is great but they are very obviously held to a higher standard than other royals and are very unfairly treated by the press.

I hate the constant criticism of them and think it has reached worrying and even more ridiculous proportions. Every time I think it can't get worse it does.

Just awful really.

I think they probably are held to a higher standard then others in the RF but they have brought that upon themselves by criticising others who don't follow their own values, talking about issues such as climate change and what others should do about this- which could be taken as preaching at times. Plus complaining about privacy and how they have been treated unfairly and giving their opinion on many things. All could be ok but they then need to follow their own example and there lies the problem they don't. Other members of the RF don't do that so whilst it doesn't make wrong doings ok at the same time they aren't complaining about how others behave.

People always try to go back to this SA thing.

TB said "I took a moment out on the side with the couple to ask them how they felt." So now you want them to lie, so you can criticise them for that too. So not exactly H&M telling SA residents about their problems. And I agree, how patronising for SA people. No one should say anything anywhere in the world then, because there is always some poor person at some estate or homeless somewhere.

A few moths later, KM preaches to some poor single parents how she is struggling with parenthood at some podcast. She is praised !

Yes they have a Royal Warrant appointed by the Prince of Wales or at least they do according to Wikipedia.

So I'm presuming that makes it okay?

Imagine finding ourselves here again

Who'd have thought it!

talking about your own problems whilst in a position of extreme privilege seems crass and insensitive

What like Charles did? Like Diana did? Like Sarah Ferguson did, and brought out a book about her miserable time in the RF? Like Andrew did whilst trying to wheedle his way out of a friendship with a paedophile?

They are all privileged. They've all done it.

@Lucaslucas1612

K&M went and told the world that they are mending the earth and then jumped on a luxury private jet straight after. No one said a word. No hypocrisy - even though they did not demonstrate that they did any offsetting, even though Elton John did this and was shut down (which is what Travelsyt is all about). Nope it was all quiet on the western front.

Fair enough @GlencoraP. We could all do with being more like that. I don't think doing a deal with P&G sounds great, but I'm keeping an open mind as I imagine it will be linked with some positive action. You don't always get as far with ideological purity.

Other members of the RF don't do that so whilst it doesn't make wrong doings ok at the same time they aren't complaining about how others behave.

Prince Charles does. All the bloody time.

Yeah, I find that (not at least easing up when HMQ is grieving) the most difficult to reconcile tbh. It seems so very cruel to keep on and on about how horrible he's been treated when the Grandmother he says he loves very much has just lost her life partner. He must know this kind of thing will upset her more. The very least he could do is take it easy on the family stuff for a couple of months.

Charles, Diana, Fergie all Crass in sharing too much, insensitive not so much. I don't recall them blabbing when the Queen Mum died, at least I bloody hope they would have the decency to "hold fire" for a while.

'Ahhh... a comment about Prince Michael of kent. Hooray! But it's all OK because he isn't on Spotify!'

God no, not ok by a long shot. Using royal connections for commercial gain is appalling be it the Kents, the Sussexes or the Yorks.

The reason we are talking about them is because they insist on drawing attention to themselves with these weird publicity stunts.

@GlencoraP

I didn’t say it wasn’t allowed , of course it’s allowed, I am just pointing out that it’s whataboutery , which it is .

@GlencoraP And the whataboutery re starving kids in China or Africa, the Pandemic, Gaza, etc etc isn't whataboutery and is ok?

I thought the feminist and designer clothes was a joke?! Surely its not meant seriously.

I think Meghan needs to cover herself in sackcloth and little Archie should wear woad.

It’s all fine , this is a forum , as long as it’s not offensive people are allowed to draw whatever analogies they like . I am just making a point

I've done an AS on a few of the antis and they've all posted on trivial topics in the last couple of months at least, and they don't seem to have told the OP to shut up and think about the starving in Africa or the people dying in the global pandemic. So, it's ok for them to indulge in trivia and talk about odds and ends, just not Meghan and Harry.

^^
Just seen your earlier post Coke.

I’m pretty sure that if a poster made a thread saying:

‘I’m on holiday in SA and am a bit disappointed at the lack of choice on the menu especially as I’m on a strict gluten free diet, AIBU to complain to the manager?

I doubt I’d be the only person to hand them their arse on a plate.

However, on a thread about paint colours if I jumped in and said ‘what about the starving people in Africa’ posters would be like WTAF . It’s all about the time and the place.

Unless I have misunderstood you.

'Charles, Diana, Fergie all Crass in sharing too much, insensitive not so much. I don't recall them blabbing when the Queen Mum died, at least I bloody hope they would have the decency to "hold fire" for a while.'

Yes. It's the timing isn't it. Just give it a rest Haz! tell us about your genetic pain in say 6 months, have a bit of empathy and compassion for your grieving df and granny.

I don't recall them blabbing when the Queen Mum died, at least I bloody hope they would have the decency to "hold fire" for a while

I have no idea! Maybe they did. And if they did, it would be excused on here of course.
Because it isn't M&H

Using royal connections for commercial gain is appalling be it the Kents, the Sussexes or the Yorks

Yes. The £10,000 a day was a bit steep for Prince Michael I thought.

I wonder how much Peter Phillips made for his ghastly palace chinese milk advert. I must go and look into that.

@Aspiringmatriarch

Fair enough *@GlencoraP*. We could all do with being more like that. I don't think doing a deal with P&G sounds great, but I'm keeping an open mind as I imagine it will be linked with some positive action. You don't always get as far with ideological purity.

These posters are well aware that HMQ endorses P&G.

www.royalwarrant.org/company/procter-gamble-uk

'wonder how much Peter Phillips made for his ghastly palace chinese milk advert. I must go and look into that.'

I know, just so grabby wasn't it. Did he then go on Oprah and say they'd all been vair mean to him though afterwards?

That's a bit of a stretch even for you Janiie. Not on point.

I cannot tie up the milk advert with Palace resplendent in the background with anything remotely like that for H&M. Not seen an advert done by them, unless you have

@Lucaslucas1612 They haven't 'criticised' anyone who doesn't follow their values', you are still lying and making things up.

talking about issues such as climate change (big sin!)

and what others should do about this- which could be taken as preaching at times
If that is seen as 'preaching', so what? Is it not needed, in 2021, to make people aware? Why is that wrong? Perhaps nobody should promote social issues, and where would we be if everyone took your opinion and nitpicked out of resentment anyone trying to do any good?

Other members of the RF don't do that
Again, not true. Charles does. He promotes saving the planet and is a well-known ecologist (or ecologically-minded, whatever the term is) and advocates reducing carbon footprint. So does the Queen and other royals.

But it's ONLY Meghan and Harry that get criticised. I and others are fed up with the hypocrisy and unfairness.

‘I’m on holiday in SA and am a bit disappointed at the lack of choice on the menu especially as I’m on a strict gluten free diet, AIBU to complain to the manager?

How do you get this from what Meghan said? It's very much not the same, is it?

For what it’s worth I think more care should be taken with Royal Warrants etc and maybe it should be removed.

The particular problem here though is that H&M have accused someone of speculating about the colour of their sons skin and implied that the speaker would prefer them to have lighter skin. Now they have themselves signed a deal with a company currently embroiled in a controversy about their promotion of skin lightening creams .

Can no one see the inappropriateness of this . What were they are their advisors thinking .

It wouldn't be excused by me @Roussette, and I'm sure by many others. I know there are some who are very biased against H&M and seem to have little or no logic to why they feel that way, they're (IME) the minority.

8I and others are fed up with the hypocrisy and unfairness*

This is it EXACTLY and the reason why i come on the threads.