Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

@CallmeHendricks

I don't think either of them are nasty people, although I do think Harry has shown an unfortunate side to his character, expressing all these hurtful opinions to the whole world. He must be aware of the damage and upset it is causing to his family.

I wish they would both learn to read the room. In the midst of a global pandemic, how can he think it appropriate to complain about his privileged upbringing. I'm not saying he might not have cause for some resentment in certain quarters, but I just CANNOT see how telling the world about it is going to help in any way whatsoever.

@CallmeHendricks The world doesn't stop because of a global pandemic. Would you say to a woman who came on here posting about her controlling husband "oh shut up, think of the starving in Africa or the dying in India"? You sound very petty and nitpicky using the pandemic as an excuse. And that's what it really is, an excuse to attack her with. Just because he 'grew up privileged' doesn't mean his pain isn't relevant, nor does it mean he doesn't have a right to speak and that only poor people do. It's petty and spiteful jealousy and nitpicking to me.

Sorry, it wasn't you actually! JaniieJones.

@Roussette

minou absolutely. It's like no member of he RF has tried to muzzle the press or sued them.

They have very very many times.

But if M&H do, it's like they're destroying GB.

Again, I think the problem is the hypocrisy of their side. Fair enough sue the press, call them out. But then keep a dignified silence about it and other things like the rest of the RF do who sued previously. They sued for privacy rights but then do a high profile interview smearing people in the RF and taking away their privacy and knowing they had no right to reply. I think it's that double standard which doesn't sit well. No one is allowed to say anything negative about them or invade their privacy but they are allowed to say what they like about others. This is where the problem lies IMO.

@CokeDrinker, you are clearly determined not to get it, and I don't see the point in engaging with you further, as I find your posts quite aggressive.

Isn't that a bit patronising? Do you know what they thought or how M&H interacted with them? Africa isn't just about poverty and I'm sure those people don't want your pity.
Well said, @Aspiringmatriarch

In reality, these posters don't give a shiny shit about the starving children in China/Africa or people dying in the pandemic. It's a convenient excuse, a stick to beat Meghan with.

Because, if we follow their 'logic' through to it's natural conclusion, these people would be writing to tv stations to stop them showing reality tv shows, to stop commenting on sports, etc. As NOTHING ELSE MATTERS but the pandemic and the starving in Africa. They're hypocrites. Far bigger hypocrites than Meghan ever could be. That's the irony of their own hypocrisy. It's because they hate Meghan and they desperately flail about for something - anything, to hit her with. Hey, taken to the logical conclusion, those posters shouldn't even be bothering with 'trivial' stuff like Mumsnet, when so many are dying in India!

Lets shut down the entire world, because of a pandemic. Only, they are not suggesting shutting down the 'entire world' are they? ONLY shutting down Meghan (and Harry).

[quote CallmeHendricks]@CokeDrinker, you are clearly determined not to get it, and I don't see the point in engaging with you further, as I find your posts quite aggressive.[/quote]
@CallmeHendricks Rather, you are the one who is clearly determined not to get it (it's obvious you refuse to get it) and are quite aggressive yourself. But, since you cannot discuss without getting stroppy and running off if someone bests you, have a

@CokeDrinker

“In reality, these posters don't give a shiny shit about the starving children in China/Africa or people dying in the pandemic. It's a convenient excuse, a stick to beat Meghan with.”

That is a very unpleasant accusation and also likely to be very inaccurate.

@ChiefInspectorParker

Anyone who can go and make a statement like MM did to Tom Bradbury needs a serious reality check.

We all know that someone else’s suffering doesn’t make our own pain any less. But the way she spoke was like someone complaining they’ve burnt some toast to their NDN whose house has just burnt down.

It was insulting and awful.

What do you mean 'the way she spoke'? She clearly reacted from the heart, anyone could see that. It was heartrending and really made me feel for her.

Perhaps because people weren't used to that raw emotion, especially the uptight British people. It's clear she hadn't thought about it, and it was an automatic and raw response to a question

I agree with this. I watched when she said that and I saw genuine emotion and then I was gobsmacked at the hate on here at her revealing how she felt.
But I was in the minority and I'm glad now that I'm not the only one who feels like this about that question from Tom Bradby.

I disagree with you Chief. Is she not allowed to answer a question in an honest way? Should she just brush everything under the carpet in a british way?

I don't get it.

As for where it was, to me that was irrelevnt. She could've been stood on a street in London, or sat on a sofa at KP, I would not have cared. Tying up her answer with the poor in Africa just makes me think of my mother making me eat the fat on ham because of the starving children.

I have no idea about 'the way she spoke' either. It seems to me that some posters want to gag people because of who they are. To silence them.

[quote smilesy]@CokeDrinker

“In reality, these posters don't give a shiny shit about the starving children in China/Africa or people dying in the pandemic. It's a convenient excuse, a stick to beat Meghan with.”

That is a very unpleasant accusation and also likely to be very inaccurate.[/quote]
Oh come on, it's true and you know it. These posters never use the 'starving kids in China/Africa' line with anyone (reality tv celebs, soapies) or anything else (sports, soapies, tv shows etc). Funny how 'we're in a global pandemic!' and 'think of the starving in Africa!' is only thrown about when it comes to Meghan. Some of the pure hatred for this couple from a few posters I could name is so palpable. They hate her so much that if she cured AIDS they'd find a reason to take against her. Using the pandemic and the 'starving in Africa' is not used for anyone else on this site.

Well Coke... it's not just that. On this or the other thread (can't remember which) we've had Harry should give his head a wobble with what's going on in the Gaza strip.
And the pandemic
And a huge list of all that people in the UK have gone through or are going through ranging from childcare issues, homelessness, furlough, redundancy, food banks, illness, the elderly... the lot.

Well.... let's aim that at the taxpayer funded Royal Family shall we?

I thought she was being genuine with Tom tbh, I just think from a PR perspective it was bad timing. People are human, our emotions are unpredictable especially when you're struggling with MH issues. But I can see how it could be interpreted as being insensitive to the suffering of the SA people. It's not an Ideal time to be speaking about your own problems when you're supposed to be raising awareness for a good cause.

I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt and take it as unfortunate timing, rather than selfishness.

I took issue with you saying that people “don’t care”about starving people or people dying in the pandemic and I still do.

@Roussette

Well Coke... it's not just that. On this or the other thread (can't remember which) we've had Harry should give his head a wobble with what's going on in the Gaza strip. And the pandemic And a huge list of all that people in the UK have gone through or are going through ranging from childcare issues, homelessness, furlough, redundancy, food banks, illness, the elderly... the lot.

Well.... let's aim that at the taxpayer funded Royal Family shall we?

Exactly Roussette'! These posters should be reminded the next time they reply to someone's problem that they didn't tell the poster that they should be grateful because they're not in Gaza, homeless, starving in a third world country or homeless. I bet they will never say that to the average person with a problem. It's all only reserved for Meghan. It's funny how they can post about soaps or sport or ordinary life or personal problems, but the minute Meghan or Harry do it's all "think of the starving in Africa!!!" What about all the people dying in the -gasp- Global Pandemic?!? "Hey, we've got a war going on in Gaza!!" Then they'll go back to reading Mumsnet threads, watching netflix or indulging in something themselves, not seeing their own hypocrisy.

As you said, the RF is funded by taxpayers. They should be held to scrutiny. Deceased Duke of E or not. 95 year old Queen or not. No excuses!

@smilesy

I took issue with you saying that people “don’t care”about starving people or people dying in the pandemic and I still do.

They might care on a peripheral level, but I still say it's an excuse stick to beat Meghan with. Otherwise they'd be saying the same thing to every reality tv star, every sports star, every bit of entertainment, and every poster on here who posts about family problems.

But they are only saying it about Meghan and Harry.

@smilesy

I took issue with you saying that people “don’t care”about starving people or people dying in the pandemic and I still do.

I care too.

You're missing the point. It wasn't that no one is allowed to moan because of what's going on it SA It's that it wasn't the best timing to moan about your own circumstances when on a promotional tour of a country which is one of the poorest and crime ridden in the world. It's rather like a friend coming round to say a family member has died and you moaning you moaning you have a cold. It's not very self aware.

That's for coke BTW.

Well.... look at the lack of outcry about Prince Michael of Kent. C4 Dispatches did a programme on him last week. There he is arranging meetings with Putin's henchmen for the sum of £10,000 a day. No one has mentioned it on any royal thread! (apart from me)
There he is using his royal status for personal profit to provide access to Putin's regime.

Yet we are shocked about a question asked of Meghan whilst in africa 3 years ago.

There is a vendetta against her and him, that's all I can say.

I've done an AS on a few of the antis and they've all posted on trivial topics in the last couple of months at least, and they don't seem to have told the OP to shut up and think about the starving in Africa or the people dying in the global pandemic. So, it's ok for them to indulge in trivia and talk about odds and ends, just not Meghan and Harry.

I really want these posters to never use those excuses ever again to attack M and H with.

Because only M and H chose the time to bring up their own MH and circumstances whilst on a SA tour.

@Lucaslucas1612

She didn't moan.

She was asked a question and answered it quickly and rather sparingly. She didn't linger on it. So it's dishonest to act like she moaned and went on.

It’s not what you say it’s where and when you say it. The optics were quite poor in the case of The SA tour (and wasn’t lost on the millions watching).

Maybe Tom Bradby was wrong to ask the question then and there in the first place.