Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

'It's a shame that H&M can't give some consideration to the mental health of their family members'

Yes this is the baffling thing. They talk openly and repeatedly about how damaging the unfair scrutiny is yet they're subjecting his family to it constantly.

I really hope the rf continue to ignore and carry on. Just hope someone finds Haz a decent therapist who will help him to stop projecting and develop strategies to manage his bitterness and resentment. Much as I think he is behaving like a petulant brat I still want him to just enjoy what he has and stop this public raking over private family feelz.

If you have listened to the podcast all the way through you will realise saying he sounds bitter and resentful could not be further from the truth.

'Petulant brat' nice. All this slinging insults at him really does negate what you say in the rest of your post.

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'Yes. Rake it over by all means, but with proper support and in private'

I know, talking about childhood trauma is obviously so important but privately, not like this.

I'm so torn! he irritates me but I also feel so sorry for him, he seems so damaged and open to commercial manipulation. You just get an unsettling feeling this won't end well.

It won't end well. It's a total car crash waiting to happen.

They can talk about their mental health without involving people they’re supposed to love. Exactly! H just sounds so bitter that he’s not really a great example of mental well being.

So much for H&M are irrelevant.

@ShamedBySiri

You could also interpret as being disrespectful as she was referred to as Kate/Kate Middleton throughout the interview rather than Catherine/Duchess of Cambridge.

William and Catherine married ten years ago. I don't think there have been any waitie Katie mentions in the British press for about twelve years. I wonder how Meghan heard about it and why she felt the need to raise the topic to the wider USA public who had probably never heard about it before.

I would say disrespectful is a kind interpretation.

Together with the comment about Wimbledon, it’s fair to say she doesn’t like Kate and it’s possible to speculate that she’s envious of her.

And it will be the very same family that he has thrown under the bus who will come in and pick up the pieces (because no one else will). Sad.

Aspiringmatriarch

I think this is a good example of the whole positive/negative interpretations going on. They're discussing bullying, and racist bullying, and that these aren't the same - that racist bullying has an added dimension. So I take it at face value. I'm curious why you don't? I see this so often and I wonder why I'm getting such a different impression.

StormzyinaTCup

Taking things at face value is to believe whatever comes out of someone's mouth is the truth and therefore without question. If we all looked at things with that lens then by default everybody would always be telling the truth and no one would question anything.

Looking at things through a different lens due to eg. knowledge of behaviours or a lived experience gives a different view/opinion to that of just face value.

Just wanted to respond to this. When you talk about looking through a different lens, you have to acknowledge that your 'lived experience' might actually be clouding your view, surely? To someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail, etc.

I don't think I take everything at face value. What I've tried to do is be fair, and I don't think it's fair to repeatedly choose the most negative interpretation. Take the 'Waity Katie' example, it was very salient to the conversation about bullying. She could have said 'the press gave Kate a hard time too but racism is different' but making it specific shows how nasty it is, and Meghan has herself been subjected to that nastiness with an added racialised element. M was very clear in the interview in saying "Kate is a good person". She did show Kate empathy, and she said you don't have to love one of them and hate the other ( or something like that). The press are the perpetrators, not Meghan. I think it's a stretch to see this as catty or disrespectful.

These hateful posters are really tedious. You ask the same questions over and over again and get the same answer told to you in ten different ways. .You have either stubbornly made up your mind or are thick as mud.

It's really boring and is frankly spamming the thread.

Have you not read the thread title. No one goes to a thread on apple pie, and start going on about how to make chicken stew.

Just noticed this thread, a good idea. I have yet to read past the first page, but I see some truly nasty people cannot help but shit all on this thread. If you don't like Meghan (or Harry) why not go away?

Why in god's name is anyone talking about his family swooping in and picking up the pieces and how sad that is.
He is about to become a Father again, he is happy, all this doom and gloom when someone is just living their life and happily married is just bizarre.

I think some posters need to accept they are married, they are not splitting up!
Now... who knows in the future, no one can say, but talking about how sad it is, is just plain daft!
Back on old threads posters were saying they give it 18 months. Then it was 3 years. What is it now? 5 years? 10 years? I know some of you are desperate to do the biggest I Told You So in the history of mankind... but for now, with an iminent birth, it just comes across as weird.

They are doing it on purpose and it's transparent. Every time a positive story is reported about H&M on here, they flood up the thread with their nasty posts in order to bury the positive news.

They know the whole point of this thread was to be a relief for those who don't care to go through repeated bashing of H&M.

AspiringMatriarch I read the script of the interview and I saw parts of it, and to me, her comments about Kate were fair and nice. I just don't understand the glass half empty people at all. Every single thing she does is viewed negatively.
Literally everything.

The press certainly have been vile to both women, and the racist coverage of Meghan was wholly unacceptable.

You people are incredibly defensive of the RF or claim to be royalists, yet when MM was trashed daily by the tabloids while she was in the RF you kept your mouths shut.

You don't even pretend to have the same energy for Andrew and Prince Michael of Kent currently.

Just wanted to respond to this. When you talk about looking through a different lens, you have to acknowledge that your 'lived experience' might actually be clouding your view, surely? To someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail, etc.*

Aspiringmatriach

Absolutely, a lived experience can cloud your judgement, but it also raises questions and a different opinion/conclusion but that's all it is, a different opinion which may be right or maybe wrong.

I don't think I take everything at face value. What I've tried to do is be fair, and I don't think it's fair to repeatedly choose the most negative interpretation. Take the 'Waity Katie' example, it was very salient to the conversation about bullying. She could have said 'the press gave Kate a hard time too but racism is different' but making it specific shows how nasty it is, and Meghan has herself been subjected to that nastiness with an added racialised element. M was very clear in the interview in saying "Kate is a good person". She did show Kate empathy, and she said you don't have to love one of them and hate the other ( or something like that). The press are the perpetrators, not Meghan. I think it's a stretch to see this as catty or disrespectful.

She did show Kate empathy, but then that's face value, do you know for certain she was being genuinely empathetic or was she just sounding empathetic. There are many people that can say empathetic things but their actions speak otherwise. She was showing empathy to Kate whilst showing a complete lack of empathy towards her husbands wider family.

You can claim be an ambassador for mental health and speak empathetically about this but then your actions clearly show a complete disregard for certain others mental health (ie sticking the knife into your own family and twisting it very publicly when they themselves have no form of comeback).

I do think the media have reported some shocking and completely unnecessary things about MM and it goes without saying that racism should be called out and I genuinely feel sympathy for her. I wouldn't marry into the royal family for all the money in the world.

But that doesn't mean everything else they say/do should be without question, especially when they are saying all this on a global stage.

No, I don't think it should be without question. I think there's a lot of hurt at the moment which Harry acknowledges. You can have empathy but also want to stand up for yourself/ your wife. I don't love every single thing they've said but taken as a whole, I don't think they deserve to be condemned. I can't imagine how horrible it must be to know that no matter what you do, there are people waiting to pounce on it and see the worst. They're just people, and they seem like they want to do some good. I don't want to see lots of bitterness, of course not, but if there have been serious issues then I think it's ok to say so. I hope things can be resolved and I do feel sorry for Charles. He seems to mean well but lacks emotional intelligence, and the RF as a whole can be quite ruthless I think. Meghan gets a lot of criticism but she didn't cause this situation, and I'm glad she has the confidence to stand up for herself. Imo they're all victims of the system they're in. Which I think is what Harry has been saying. Not that different from things Charles has said in the past.

The love/hate dichotomy idea demonstrates exactly how she thinks, in my opinion.
Another stretch. Some of you must have arms like Mr Tickle! The press love nothing more than a rivalry narrative, especially with women, and that's what M was referring to.