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Positive thread on Meghan again

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Mummy194 · 07/05/2021 19:16

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

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bluebell34567 · 15/05/2021 21:43

@ShamedBySiri

It's odd that Meghan never took Harry to meet her Dad over the period when they were dating/engaged. If she had included her Dad in the relationship from the start (at least once they had decided they were serious) all that mess probably wouldn't have happened. Why didn't she want Harry to meet her father I wonder?
agree, very weird.
bluebell34567 · 15/05/2021 21:45

@CallmeHendricks

In my opinion, there is an element of revenge motivating Harry & Meghan's decision to badmouth his family. I don't think Thomas Markle had the same motivation for those pap shots.
agree.
Mummy194 · 15/05/2021 21:45

I read somewhere that photographer was hired by M for TM and was previously used by her.

You probably read it on some bottom feeder like BG. No mainstream has ever reported such a thing.

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Roussette · 15/05/2021 21:45

No, he was just in it for the $$$$$

bluebell34567 · 15/05/2021 21:47

@Lockupyourbiscuits

Hanidjed7

You have put your child’s needs first, above your own personal feelings and that’s what parenting is all about
I really admire you

exactly.
Mummy194 · 15/05/2021 21:48

I wish the RF had done the same for H, his wife and child.

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SueSaid · 15/05/2021 21:50

'There is nothing private about finding out the Head of state organisation is racist. It's like finding that No10 are racist. It would have to be dealt with.'

Unsubstantiated claims. Of course it needs investigating so let's wait to see if there's any actual evidence.

To discuss private relationship problems publicly for example 'my dad stopped taking my calls' is definitely not ok.

nicenicenice · 15/05/2021 21:52

@Roussette

No, he was just in it for the $$$$$
Can't think of anyone else who might be in it for the money having traded their souls with global brands... hmm?
lakeswimmer · 15/05/2021 21:52

@Mummy194

Their relationship problems are private 🙄

There is nothing private about finding out the Head of state organisation is racist. It's like finding that No10 are racist. It would have to be dealt with.

H&M promote themselves as mental health advocates, however, it's quite clear that the only mental health they care about is their own and they clearly don't give a stuff about anyone else's

Same could be said about W&K, yet they are not getting any vitriol.

W&K aren't getting any vitirol because they're not slagging off their family in public and they're getting on with their lives and roles.

H&M, on the other hand, are deeply hypocritical because they talk about compassion but are unable to show any compassion towards their own families including Harry's recently bereaved 95 year old grandmother.

Their PR advice is abysmal .

SueSaid · 15/05/2021 21:55

'In my opinion, there is an element of revenge motivating Harry & Meghan's decision to badmouth his family. I don't think Thomas Markle had the same motivation for those pap shots.'

Absolutely. Markle Senior just didn't seem to have thought it through whereas H&M look to be doing their tell alls in a very calculating way. Anyway, the RF are obviously focusing on duty and service and ignoring the cringeworthy soap opera.

Roussette · 15/05/2021 21:55

They haven't traded their souls. They have spoken as they find. They are making their own lives and before you talk about removing all titles, let's see that for the members of the RF whose titles really should be removed.

PA with his security paid for at £300,000 per annum and holding on to his military patronages for instance

Keyring · 15/05/2021 22:01

I think Harry will come to regret the actions of this year.... he's being unspeakably cruel to his father.

Gorgeouslilgirl · 15/05/2021 22:01

I’m pleased that H&M are making real contributions to charities, vaccines, mental health. They are putting themselves out there, having difficult conversations, using new younger and open channels of communicating. They are just more human and real- they don’t need to pretend they are superior to other humans because of some divine right. The whole don’t complain, don’t explain is toxic and prevents accountability.

The real courage is in showing human vulnerability, and that’s what connects us all

SueSaid · 15/05/2021 22:02

'W&K aren't getting any vitirol because they're not slagging off their family in public and they're getting on with their lives and roles.H&M, on the other hand, are deeply hypocritical because they talk about compassion but are unable to show any compassion towards their own families including Harry's recently bereaved 95 year old grandmother. Their PR advice is abysmal '

Absolutely.

Keyring · 15/05/2021 22:04

I’m pleased that H&M are making real contributions to charities, vaccines, mental health.

I don't really get how they are making a 'real' contribution to vaccines, frankly.

Mummy194 · 15/05/2021 22:07

@Gorgeouslilgirl

I’m pleased that H&M are making real contributions to charities, vaccines, mental health. They are putting themselves out there, having difficult conversations, using new younger and open channels of communicating. They are just more human and real- they don’t need to pretend they are superior to other humans because of some divine right. The whole don’t complain, don’t explain is toxic and prevents accountability.

The real courage is in showing human vulnerability, and that’s what connects us all

THIS.
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Paquerette · 15/05/2021 22:07

@Mummy194

The RF is not 'private' issues. They are an institution we pay tax for who head the state and cw. Said this enough times.

There is no 'gossip' in racism and MH issues. Would you rather H&M have gone to some authority to report these, because if we are to tbh, these issues contravene human rights.

Because if we are honest, in any other situation, the people that did this would have to answer.

Imagine, if this situation were accusations against a school, government, council, charity, etc. We would not be saying, oh keep quiet, this is a matter to be dealt with internally!

Harry himself has made racist remarks, and also said he "felt too embarrassed" to get Meghan support for her mh issues. As her husband, it was his fault that she possibly didn't get whatever mh support that she felt she needed. Meghan was also pregnant so could easily have asked her midwife for help. Is Harry supposed to be reporting himself to whichever authorities you think that they should be reported to?
lakeswimmer · 15/05/2021 22:09

@Gorgeouslilgirl

I’m pleased that H&M are making real contributions to charities, vaccines, mental health. They are putting themselves out there, having difficult conversations, using new younger and open channels of communicating. They are just more human and real- they don’t need to pretend they are superior to other humans because of some divine right. The whole don’t complain, don’t explain is toxic and prevents accountability.

The real courage is in showing human vulnerability, and that’s what connects us all

They only contribute if they can get some half-arsed publicity out of it and it's possible to have difficult conversations and show human vulnerability without slagging off your family who can't easily respond. They know that and are taking advantage.
Viviennemary · 15/05/2021 22:12

They certainly get publicity for the causes they champion. But whether it's good publicity is a matter of opinion.

Gorgeouslilgirl · 15/05/2021 22:12

I thought they had an initiative to increase access to vaccines for poorer countries or something? And something else as a part of a bigger initiative to money/awareness for vaccines?

I don’t pay much attention to royals but my gut instinct is that concerts, podcasts etc are human and resonate while eg, commandeering royal trains to wave at people across the country is a bit Hycinth Bucket, pretending to be grandiose

Keyring · 15/05/2021 22:15

Charles and other members of the RF may seem fuddy duddy to younger people; I get that.

However, Harry and Meghan - approaching middle age themselves - will not be the hottest ticket in town forever. May Harry never know the pain he has brought upon his father with these actions of the last few months. Dreadful for Charles to have to bear.

Roussette · 15/05/2021 22:16

@Paquerette

Have you ever dealt with anyone with suicidal thoughts? Because saying..speak to your midwife is just so wrong.
It really doesn't work like that Shock

Gorgeouslilgirl · 15/05/2021 22:17

And I don’t want to put one against the other, it isn’t a saint vs sinner story as DM likes to spin.

It is just that some things and ways of interacting are within my realm of normal while others seem just a bit bizarre and feudal-y

Gorgeouslilgirl · 15/05/2021 22:21

“ Charles and other members of the RF may seem fuddy duddy to younger people; I get that.

However, Harry and Meghan - approaching middle age themselves - will not be the hottest ticket in town forever. ”

It is not really a physical age thing. Young people can have a fuddy duddy mindset and older people can be really alive and in tune with the young. Bernie Sanders for example has a large young base

Keyring · 15/05/2021 22:23

The RF is not there to be in tune with the young, particularly - they're there to serve - not court overt popularity.

At the moment it's just soundbites with H&M - this may or may not translate into something meaningful over the coming years. Time will tell.

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