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To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

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fiheka · 06/05/2021 16:35

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

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SirVixofVixHall · 13/05/2021 15:48

My upper class Mil uses uppity in reference to small children throwing their weight around . I haven’t heard it used in a racist sense.

Cacacoisfarraige · 13/05/2021 16:09

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Fixitup2 · 13/05/2021 16:13

I’ve always understood uppity to mean above themselves, nothing to do with race where I’m from but a person with grand ideas who looks down their noses at people would be described as uppity.

smilesy · 13/05/2021 16:32

It does have some racist connotations in the US. It does not in the UK. The fact remains that it has not been used on this thread (although it has been referred to by some throwing out random accusations) so I’m not sure why it is even being discussed. This whole thing is getting silly.

mermaidsariel · 13/05/2021 16:42

@Fixitup2

I’ve always understood uppity to mean above themselves, nothing to do with race where I’m from but a person with grand ideas who looks down their noses at people would be described as uppity.
Yes, me too. It doesn't have race connotations in the UK.
Crocidura · 13/05/2021 18:25

@castemary

I never hear anyone using the word uppity in real life. It is the kind of word I can imagine being used by someone in the aristocracy.
I think many people will know it from Mr Uppity, one of the Mr Men!
Nishky · 13/05/2021 18:32

I am from the UK and middle aged and I am aware of the racial connotations of the word uppity

smilesy · 13/05/2021 18:38

Like we have said though, it’s not racist in the UK. If you look for a dictionary definition, it is an adjective that means you are behaving above your station. It is not used very much in British English. Urban dictionaries allude to its racist connotations, but we could tie ourselves in knots over this. And it has not been used in the thread. So why are we talking about it? The thread is being filled up by this pointless discussion.

Nishky · 13/05/2021 18:42

‘It is not racist in the uk’ surely if it is racist it is racist.

There has been the argument that the N word was used to describe a colour many years ago, but no-one would say that is not racist.

Roussette · 13/05/2021 18:45

It doesn't have race connotations in the UK

I think you will find it is.

If not, why was Eamonn Holmes reprimanded by his TV bosses for referring to Meghan as 'uppity' then?

I am from the UK and middle aged and I am aware of the racial connotations of the word uppity

I am from the UK and old and I am aware too.

smilesy · 13/05/2021 18:45

It’s still a pointless discussion on this thread. It has not been used.

Crawspetch · 13/05/2021 18:47

As far as I'm concerned uppity refers to someone who is up their arse, acting above their station. I might use it when some uppity student appears for their placement and then starts telling the regular staff how to do their job. I bet there were people either in the RF or among palace staff who referred to the c list actress as an uppity woman. Maybe that is the root of her claims of racism. But I think the use of the word (in the U.K.) is well justified. Quickly adopting delusions of grandeur to go with the duchess title, lecturing Her Majesty The Queen on the meaning of service and entitlement to use the word Royal! It doesn't get much more uppity than that. I certainly won't take a lecture from an American on whether or not I can use the word in the usage as I and most other British people understand it. In fact it's rather uppity of Americans to tell us what we can and can't say.

Roussette · 13/05/2021 18:47

Perhaps we could all learn from the discussion though?

Hope so. It won't be 'pointless' then

Nishky · 13/05/2021 18:47

I think when there are attempts to dismiss it as ‘not racist in the uk’ then we are entitled to comment on it

Nishky · 13/05/2021 18:48

@Roussette I am old too. I went for middle aged out of vanity

Roussette · 13/05/2021 18:49

Crawspetch

So... even when it's pointed out to you that it's a racist term, your post is littered with that term.

Roussette · 13/05/2021 18:51

I went for middle aged out of vanity

If only I could, but it would be biggest fattest lie ever! 🤣

Nishky · 13/05/2021 18:52

@Crawspetch what a whole load of assumptions about what Meghan did or didn’t do.

If someone explains the racist connotations of a word to me I respect their views rather than accusing them of lecturing.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 13/05/2021 18:53

Honestly Roussette - I’ve never found anything offensive in it at all - plenty of other things have come my way and I’ve smarted. But not that.

And I remember the Mr Men book and my mam calling me it.

The innocuous ‘where are you from’ is my pet peeve. And even more when you answer and get ‘no, but where are you from?

It is all about tone and context and I can’t bring it in myself to find offence where none is meant.

And older and from the Uk too. Smile

I’m in my 50s and not old but am feeling it this week Confused

Blossomtoes · 13/05/2021 18:53

@Roussette

Crawspetch

So... even when it's pointed out to you that it's a racist term, your post is littered with that term.

If we were in the US it would be a racist term. We’re not.
Roussette · 13/05/2021 18:57

I’m in my 50s and not old but am feeling it this week
Awww, not a good week Sad

If we were in the US it would be a racist term. We’re not

So I'll repeat again. Why then was Eamonn Holmes reprimanded by his TV bosses for using the term about Meghan?
He knew exactly what he was doing IMHO

So would you use the term in front of Americans in this country then? That is sounding very ummm nationalistic...

Nanasueathome · 13/05/2021 19:02

Errrr
Has anyone seen the Daily Mail online headline?
I think PH may have blown it with his father

Nishky · 13/05/2021 19:06

@Nanasueathome and possibly his grandmother as he appears to be criticising the parenting of the Queen and Prince Philip......

littlebillie · 13/05/2021 19:11

@Fixitup2

I’ve always understood uppity to mean above themselves, nothing to do with race where I’m from but a person with grand ideas who looks down their noses at people would be described as uppity.
Agree with this definition, also used to describe someone appearing to be morally superior to everyone else and looking down on them
Nishky · 13/05/2021 19:12

Of course if the reporting is accurate.......

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