To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

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It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

I also don't see MM as a scheming hussy but I do see that she's enabled/encouraged H to pick away at all his scabs, revealing a variety of sores. Catherine, however, has supported William in accepting and moving on.
(Disclaimer: only my opinion of course before folk want evidence 😁)

Yes I’ve heard many times that the best way to understand marrying I to the RF and protocols and restrictions etc is to see it as joining the army. Queen in charge.

Obviously applying the word ‘senior’ is a term attributed to the working royals, but Harry seems to think it gives him equal pegging to Willian somehow.

Harry clearly can’t accept the demotion since Willian has had children.

Being seen to follow rules seems to suit Harry as long as he is the only royal present, if Willian is there then it is time to jostle for position and his petulance shines through. He cannot accept his diminishing importance over last decade.

He is clearly unsuitable and never going to be a support in the way Anne has been to the a queen and Charles.

Hahahahahaha

Harry has been on a podcast with some A lister I've never heard of and talked about mental health and getting therapy on advice from Meghan.

And yet neither of them could organise anything when she felt depressed.....

@Billandben444 William will be King. Unless he abdicated he has no choice but to get on with it. Harry was never going to be King and was going to end up being a minor Royal. He had more freedom to make his own decisions.

And Anne is now in good standing. But people have short memories. If MN had existed longer it would in the past have been full of threads criticising Anne. The press were full of stories of her being very rude to the public and press.

I don’t think many people would have much of a problem with Anne telling the press to naff off

She wasn't just rude to the press, but some of the public too. Her public reputation was of an extremely rude and arrogant person.

@castemary

She wasn't just rude to the press, but some of the public too. Her public reputation was of an extremely rude and arrogant person.

Was it?

Yes I remember the press articles at the time.

I think the press thought she was rude because she didn’t speak to them if she didn’t want to. She is like her father. Straight talking and doesn’t stand any bollocks. I don’t believe she was ever rude to the public though.

Uppity is absolutely a coded racial slur in the UK. Pretending it's an "Americanism" is just an attempt to disguise racism.

Ditto the ongoing ideology that comes up constantly on MN of "well I a white person don't think it's racist so it's not!!! How dare you suggest that white people not be allowed to dictate what is and is not racist about black people, that's a racist statement against white people!"

You're clearly trying to justify being racist, most of these threads turn into racial denial and barely disguised contempt for black women and attempts to silence and shout down or gaslight black women.

Trying to paint black women as "wokesters" who are cruelly denying you of your freedom of speech to use racial slurs, is just sheer racism. Period.

The whole men women debate that rages over SM is the same agenda, looking to control what women are allowed to say.

No. Black British women asking you to stop using racial slurs is not, by any stretch of the imagination, the same as TRAs engaging in misogynistic bullying.

It's shameful of you to exploit women's rights to promote your own racism.

I genuinely can't remember if it was you or another poster who was insisting that someone posting N***R out in full in all caps towards a black poster "didn't necessarily make that person racist" but it was less than a week ago.

This has nothing to do with free speech. It has nothing to do with feminism. It has nothing to do with ideology. It's sheer, unadulterated racism.

@castemary

Yes I remember the press articles at the time.

I'm as old as the hills. I don't remember her being rude to the public. Any way are you now demanding a public enquiry on the behaviour of Princess Anne? Should we throw rotten tomatoes at her? What should we dooooooooooooooo?

no, we are in the UK, we don't need the US to tell us what the "English Queen" said in Parliament and tells us how to use our own language. They are wrong on all three points above - the coverage I linked to yesterday headed that the Queen had announced things as if she were a President etc. They have no idea, it is an entirely different culture, country and language is used differently in each country. Same as we didn't ever have segregation in the UK or ban mixed race marriages. Very different countries. I am bored of US politics being conflated with UK - we are not alike in any way.

Are you accusing me of writing out the N word? If you are, I shall ask for your posts to be deleted. I'll give you the option to retract that of course, if not I shall request your posts are deleted.

Uppity is absolutely a coded racial slur in the UK. Pretending it's an "Americanism" is just an attempt to disguise racism

Not amongst any of the people I know. What does it mean when applied to a white person?

I never hear anyone using the word uppity in real life. It is the kind of word I can imagine being used by someone in the aristocracy.

People from the US badgering everyone about what language we can use can't see that is an overt attempt to prevent people freedom of expression. Only allowed to say certain words because it means something in a different country?

Guess I'll request her post be deleted as it is overtly accusing me of something I have never done. Call me a racist, it's a pathetic argument when someone doesn't agree with you. However, I know I'm not racist and just makes those saying it look daft. However, I will not have someone saying I have used or defended using the N word.

Looking desperate Rainy - Harry insults with offensive slurs people in the UK country with words that ARE offensive in UK. Perhaps you're looking at things with the wrong glasses on? Harry the hero

@castemary

I never hear anyone using the word uppity in real life. It is the kind of word I can imagine being used by someone in the aristocracy.

I've heard the word uppity used many, many times, usually directed towards a child who is getting above itself or demanding things! Cannot see what is wrong with the word.

the post last week was little more complex than that. My point was that none of us know anyone's motivations of why they post what they post. Stating the obvious.

Agent provocateur may post an offensive term because they want to accuse MN of being racist. Don't think that's a difficult concept to understand.

I said I haven't seen anyone use the N word on MN, but it would be impossible to know if someone did use it on MN, whether they were genuinely a racist or someone posing as a racist to enable them to quote over and over again that they've seen use of the N word on M. I haven't seen it, but you regularly claim you see use of N word all over MN.

I see all you can take from my post is that somehow means that I support someone using the N word and also doesn't mean they're racist ... hmmmm I make no excuses for anyone using the N word.

You do make excuses for people using the P word though (Harry). I think , on balance it may be you that is happy to support racist terminology as being of no consequence.

The only person have EVER seen using the N word and quoting regular use of the N word - is you rainy.

I don't know what your motivations are, same as no-one knows what anyone's genuine motivations are on here.

None of that means I defend someone using the N word as not being racist.....

@MagicSummer are you very posh?

you don't have to be post to hear the word uppity I linked to the UK definitions yesterday - it isn't a weird racist word in the UK.

The US are trying to pretend that the phrase "niggling doubt" is racist towards Meghan too.

What about the word night? The meanings of words is important and can change over time, but it's a natural event and happens amongst a population. It's not a state sponsored permitted language from on high - that would be inherently dangerous 1984 territory. Also not for another country to say what is permitted use of language. Language is living and evolves - we do not need a guide from the US of all places.

What about the Mr Men book, Mr Uppity? it described his manner, he was a rather snooty (uppity) aristocratic character who wore a monocle. In the same way Mr Noisy was noisy, Mr Mean was mean and so on.

I have always liked Princess Anne too and I believe she has always been popular.

Anyway, I don’t think anyone has used “uppity” on here. Apart from the hashtag wielding poster who was throwing around random accusations.

Yes that is correct snilesy - no-one has said it, however if I wanted to use it then I would would. Neither had anyone mentioned the N word except the same poster who mentions it like clockwork that she has seen it on MN

Mr uppity - yes that’s correct -