To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

stillrailing - yes it seemed entirely contemptuous of the British public that did watch (I didn't) to laugh up their sleeve that they were revealing a secret wedding...

To call it a "spectacle" as if it was the public that wanted it is very rude. There was no need for a big wedding, they wanted it and would have been angry to have been told to have a private wedding. No bank holiday, it wasn't a state occasion etc.

It seemed an entirely transparent attempt to paint victimhood again and a nod to Diana victim, not even subtle. The public were braying for a wedding .

Diana was marrying an heir to the throne, unfortunately for M she didn't understand the difference that Harry wasn't even a spare anymore now William had children.

No bank holiday - no street parties that I recall anyhow, just a whole different vibe. Wasn't a countrywide "spectacle" as I was out shopping and having a meal - as were plenty of others.

Yes I feel I should pop her a hand written note saying "sorry I forced you into a shotgun wedding!"
Am I being manipulated maybe?😉🤷

yes, a bit of a divorce from the country rather than a divorce of a couple I suppose, the public are the ones going ? huh? what did I do? well if you feel like that, you can stick your flag waving.....

I can certainly think of better things to do with £32 million of our money.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I don't really see it as them stirring, it's their truth

I've often wondered where this rather odd phrase came from and what it means - surely "truth" is an objective thing and neither theirs, mine or anyone else's?

Someone can have their own ^perspective" but not their own truth, so presumably it must mean whatever nonsense they want to spout unchallenged?

Exactly. These nonsensical buzzwords/phrases really need to go. When did "truth" become a synonym of "perspective"? Such use of language Is far too ambiguous. I wonder which gobshites come up with such things.

@fiheka
Working 2.5 days a week - William, and some of those days being 3-4 hours, is a cushy number.
Kate works much less and some of her engagements are with William to lunches and receptions. But Louis is still very young.
But between them, they do not do one full-time job.
And even what they do seems pretty meaningless. I mean Kate goes to Early Years Meetings. Realistically what does she contribute? She is not an expert, she has no real qualifications in early years.
It is all a colossal waste of money.

You are really showing your lack of understanding of how a royal role works. Although you may only be showing your face for 2 or 3 days a week, there is masses of work that goes on behind the scenes.

I also hate the fact that you are treating Kate - another woman - in such a dismissive way, in connection with her Early Years initiative. She worked hard to gain a professional base of knowledge in the subject, and has been very involved in following through on the initial survey. Other professionals in the field were impressed with her dedication and learning. Lovely to see women supporting other women.

Dislike the RF all you like - your choice - but don't dismiss them with 'facts' that you've made up.

My Dp said if he died before me he did not want his brother to attend. I told him I was not prepared to stop any member of his family attending as I think it is wrong to do that.

Your DP should have walked at that point, who are you to disrespect his wishes? He no doubt had very good reasons for not wanting his brother there but you didn't love him enough to allow this.

@Bellevu

Love this thread. No reflection about just why so many black British people were unshocked by the interview, yet many dismissing and mocking.

The more you deny/minimise the impact of the racism Meghan experienced, the more we hear you telling us the racism we encounter daily is all in our minds. You're not supporting the Royal family with this stance, you're actually undermining it.

The minde boggles with the ignorance.

The arrogance eg. the line about dismissing traditional weddings, let alone the race thing - which is ducking major, let's face it.

And yes, people are more outraged by accusation of racism, than the racism itself. Disgusting really.

Tbh, I hope pressure groups push for this in a few month's time. We need answers from an organisation that heads our nation as well as the CW.

There was (to me,.....

Yes, you are correct, to you.

Also it was already reported that they were told to make a big wedding. Back then it was reported as something to unify the country after the Brexit fallout.

And we all got our money's worth and some, back in revenue. So no need to whine about that.

Ooh whining. Nice!

Anyway I'm still wishing them all well.

I also hate the fact that you are treating Kate - another woman - in such a dismissive way, in connection with her Early Years initiative. She worked hard to gain a professional base of knowledge in the subject, and has been very involved in following through on the initial survey. Other professionals in the field were impressed with her dedication and learning. Lovely to see women supporting other women.

Are you having a laugh, you are one of the champions to dismiss MM work aren't you. Since when do you care about women supporting other women with all your hate on MM, anyway.

Haven’t RTFT but have read OP’s posts.

For the number of engagements William and Kate do, yes it’s low but the way I see it is they’ll get busier as they get older. They’re not like us with 40-45 years of working, they’ll be working until William dies. I’m not bothered if they’re working part time until maybe Charles is king.

I’d also blank Harry if my brother or cousin aired our family issues on Jeremy kyle or take a break (working class equivalent of what they did). I’m not being polite to someone with such little class.

Maybe William doesn’t count princess Michael as family. I wouldn’t class my grandmas cousins wife as family.

@Mummy194

I also hate the fact that you are treating Kate - another woman - in such a dismissive way, in connection with her Early Years initiative. She worked hard to gain a professional base of knowledge in the subject, and has been very involved in following through on the initial survey. Other professionals in the field were impressed with her dedication and learning. Lovely to see women supporting other women.

Are you having a laugh, you are one of the champions to dismiss MM work aren't you. Since when do you care about women supporting other women with all your hate on MM, anyway.

And what work does MM do?

A couple of embarrassing Zoom calls and a wanky podcast 😂

You're deluded!

And what work does KM do?

A couple of embarrassing Zoom calls and a wanky podcast 😂

You're deluded!

There.

Corrected that for you.

@Mummy194

And what work does KM do?

A couple of embarrassing Zoom calls and a wanky podcast 😂

You're deluded!

There.

Corrected that for you.

Wow, aren't you clever.

So what you're saying is you have absolutely no idea what MM does 😂

@StillRailing

There was (to me, in my truth at least) a real sense of screw you, UK proletariat, about the secret "real" wedding being revealed. (Yes I confess that to the disgust of my family I watched and loved it.)

I can appreciate a dislike of attention and the inherently public nature of a wedding being at odds with that impulse.
But then why not just keep it as a lovely personal and PRIVATE moment of mutual dedication?
I just don't understand the need to proclaim it to the masses via the Oprah interview. (Was it also in their book?)

Exactly. No member of the British public would have cared if they'd had a private intimate wedding that wasn't televised. The spectacle was entirely their own doing. And for two people supposedly horrified at putting on a spectacle, it was then an odd choice to invite A-Listers they'd never met. Meghan also didn't mind blowing £250k on a Givenchy wedding dress - again this doesn't align with someone who didn't want an elaborate showy wedding

The wedding wasn't for the UK public - it was even held on the day of the FA cup final FGS!! . It wasn't to bring the country together - if it was then it wouldn't have been stuck in with FA cup final.... or been on a Saturday. It was a showbiz wedding, for Harry's benefit basically.

William's wedding had people from all round the world representing their countries attending. Harry's wedding was not at all the same sort of thing, which is why calling it a spectacle was ridiculous it was just family and people they invited or might like to be friends with one day... a few peripheral charity people, but not many.

Compare the difference in the guest lists if not understanding how wildly different and not comparable in levels of "spectacle"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_of_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Markle

then scroll past the family of William and K and see the vast difference in the type of wedding guests - that's what you call a spectacle for others benefit, rather than a personal wedding.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wedding_guests_of_Prince_William_and_Catherine_Middleton

from Wiki:
"Unlike the wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton, the wedding day of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle was not declared a bank holiday.[40] The wedding was on the same date as the FA Cup Final, which Prince Harry's brother William normally attends in his role as President of the Football Association.[41] Holding the royal wedding on a weekend is a break with the royal tradition of having weddings on a weekday.[42] On 12 February 2018, Kensington Palace announced that the ceremony would commence at 12:00 Midday BST."

they hoped the money spent, might be recouped with some extra tourism, that's about it - absolutely wasn't to bring the country together. It wasn't for us, sorry.

@Mummy194

And what work does KM do?

A couple of embarrassing Zoom calls and a wanky podcast 😂

You're deluded!

There.

Corrected that for you.

@Mummy194 you do know these two women are not in competition? In order to like one you don't have to trash the other, FYI

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

And you cannot single out one over another either.

[quote Mummy194]@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

And you cannot single out one over another either.[/quote]
I don't understand what you mean by this?

You understand very well.

You seem happy for the poster to trash MM, but have a problem when the problem is turned around and KM is the one on the firing line.

Not for the first time, I notice.

Since when do you care about women supporting other women with all your hate on MM

Disliking the way Meghan has publicly handled certain things does not equal hatred for Meghan. It's hard not to have an opinion about her tbh. Her PR team makes it hard. Do you really think we are all frothing at the mouth here? If anything, it's entertaining. But I'd honestly rather not know about it at all.

Disliking the way Meghan has handled certain things has nothing to do with how hard either woman works either.

@Mummy194

You understand very well.

You seem happy for the poster to trash MM, but have a problem when the problem is turned around and KM is the one on the firing line.

Not for the first time, I notice.

Actually you trashed Kate, I pointed out that MM does very little and asked you what you thought MM did.

Still waiting an answer.

[quote ajandjjmum]@fiheka
Working 2.5 days a week - William, and some of those days being 3-4 hours, is a cushy number.
Kate works much less and some of her engagements are with William to lunches and receptions. But Louis is still very young.
But between them, they do not do one full-time job.
And even what they do seems pretty meaningless. I mean Kate goes to Early Years Meetings. Realistically what does she contribute? She is not an expert, she has no real qualifications in early years.
It is all a colossal waste of money.

You are really showing your lack of understanding of how a royal role works. Although you may only be showing your face for 2 or 3 days a week, there is masses of work that goes on behind the scenes.

I also hate the fact that you are treating Kate - another woman - in such a dismissive way, in connection with her Early Years initiative. She worked hard to gain a professional base of knowledge in the subject, and has been very involved in following through on the initial survey. Other professionals in the field were impressed with her dedication and learning. Lovely to see women supporting other women.

Dislike the RF all you like - your choice - but don't dismiss them with 'facts' that you've made up.[/quote]
Omg remember that really amateur survey she came out with on the early years initiative, oh yeah such hard work and really sparked conversation 😜

Honestly it was frankly embarrassing