To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

Re the William story, there were hints in the newspapers but I would imagine it's very difficult to prove and newspapers are a bit more reluctant these days to print what they cannot corroborate.
I could well imagine a newspaper deciding instead to print a story about M and a tiara or something similar, and sit on a bigger, more damaging story, temporarily at least.

Love this thread. No reflection about just why so many black British people were unshocked by the interview, yet many dismissing and mocking.

The more you deny/minimise the impact of the racism Meghan experienced, the more we hear you telling us the racism we encounter daily is all in our minds. You're not supporting the Royal family with this stance, you're actually undermining it.

Gosh @fiheka you must be so angry at Meghan for behaving so badly towards her own father, no matter what he’s done.

What a load of nonsense. And what skin exactly do you have in the game to be so determined to run down the rest of the RF while blindly cheerleading M&H?

@Bellevu

Love this thread. No reflection about just why so many black British people were unshocked by the interview, yet many dismissing and mocking.

The more you deny/minimise the impact of the racism Meghan experienced, the more we hear you telling us the racism we encounter daily is all in our minds. You're not supporting the Royal family with this stance, you're actually undermining it.

We are talking about those particular people, in that particular interview. If you want to go ahead and apply that to an entire race or nation then you're lacking in common sense.

do not know anyone else where both parents work very part-time and receive very large salaries, because their children are young

Not many GP couples in your social circle then. It’s endemic with them.

@GlencoraP

These people are not fraudsters, thank you very much

In that case they need to get themselves to a registry office PDQ

The Archie photo released for his birthday about sums things up - he, and his parents, turning their back on the U.K.

There were no lies. A spin to try and discredit what they say by a very powerful British press. Spread it everywhere as much as you can.

I watched the interview, the one H&M orchestrated and controlled. It's what they said (or omitted to say), the design and theatrics of the televised interview, H&M's body language and their outright lie about being married before the actual event that makes me critical of them, not the 'powerful British press'.

Megan is an ambitious albeit not very talented Californian soap opera actress and Harry is one of the most privileged white men on Earth, a prince no less. Their narrative of being hard done and unfairly treated by the RF (e.g. cos the Duchess of Sussex didn't get to wear a particular tiara) leaves me cold.

They are mildly entertaining with their clumsy PR, I'll give them that.

Not all marriages are legal affairs.

Completely wrong. This is literally what marriage is, a legal contract.

This is very closed minded thinking.
No, it's applying the actual meaning of the word marriage, rather than making up a meaning to try to excuse a lie.

If she can have two birthdays, than people can also have two weddings. this is a non issue and non story, conveniently blown up.

A birthday is not a legal contract. The Queen's official birthday is called that to distinguish it from the date she was born. She does not go on TV and lie about being born in June, on a date which changes each year.

The Archbishop of Canterbury had to explain that he hadn't performed an illegal marriage thanks to Meghan's lie ffs.

They threw the RF under the bus with allegations knowing full well the RF wouldn't be able to publicly defend / put their side across. This was done at a time when Prince Phillip was very obviously dying. What did they expect - to be welcomed with open arms? The pair of them are petulant spoilt children who, despite saying that want a life of privacy, do everything they can to remain in the spotlight.

Emotions would have been running very high at the funeral following the death of Prince Phillip (naturally) and also upset from the interview.

So now, we are going to have posters accuse people with traditional marriages labeled as fraudsters, in order to drive your MM hate.

You sound absolutely deranged !

She did say they got married before the wedding, she could have said "we exchanged private vows before the wedding". Which would have been factually correct,but she chose to imply that the wedding a lot of people watched and celebrated was actually a "fake" wedding, surplus to their requirements. All that tax payers money, all that good will from ordinary people and they don't and never did appreciate it, according to them. They only did it for us plebs to bring some joy into our pathetic lives basically.

Mummy I have no idea where your getting that from, no one said that.

The staff and people who work for Invictus, Sentebale and H's other project attest to him being a hard worker who does his research and come up with ideas

Of course they do - as with so many other RF members they're hardly going to say their employers are entitled, workshy arses if they want to keep their jobs are they?

Meanwhile the arguments about the "earlier wedding" rumble on
It's hard not to sympathise with those who must be so frustrated that another provable lie's been busted, but it might be more credible to simply say "yes, that was a silly thing to do, but let's not allow it to spoil everything"

Not all marriages are legal affairs. Some are affairs of the heart.

I would hope all or most marriages are affairs of the heart - affairs of the heart and legal marriages aren't mutually exclusive. However, self-evidently not all affairs of the heart are marriages. What makes them marriages is complying with whatever the laws of the relevant country requires for that purpose.

A private schmaltzy poem in the back garden is not any kind of wedding - it isn't any kind of contract and is therefore patently not a wedding. Wedding means contract in law or religion.

People that have two ceremonies, one in their chosen religion and then a legal wedding, are not in the same situation as H&M at all. No "poem in the back garden" type of wedding exists - it's isn't a religious, humanist or any type of ceremony .

H&M openly mocked the UK by saying "this spectacle" was a fraud as we were already married and it didn't mean much to them. Until the AoCanterbury said the Saturday was the legal wedding etc.

That's quite insulting actually and most people would have been very, very happy for them to have not had a big wedding. It was on a Saturday, ie no one had the day off or anything - when W&K and Charles and Diana were married there was a bonus one-off national holiday ie. extra bank holiday as heirs to the throne etc and wanted people to have parties etc.

Everyone would have been happy for a small private wedding for H&M. They had a big affair because petulant H wanted exact same fuss as William. Obviously there wasn't same fuss, no extra bank holiday and wasn't held during the week - most people were out and about doing stuff as not a bank holiday and normal weekend. I didn't watch it myself as thought it was a daft fuss when William already had heirs.

So the people that went along with it to support H&M and make them feel important with a bit of flag waving and then H&M tell everyone on TV that it was rather tiresome for them after all charming..!

well, marriage does - not wedding as such - I mean to say...

@Zzelda

Not all marriages are legal affairs. Some are affairs of the heart.

I would hope all or most marriages are affairs of the heart - affairs of the heart and legal marriages aren't mutually exclusive. However, self-evidently not all affairs of the heart are marriages. What makes them marriages is complying with whatever the laws of the relevant country requires for that purpose.

This!

LOL, 'affairs of the heart'. Yep, that's what they are, just two people proclaiming they love to shag and live with each other. No legal recognition in law whatsoever.

They wanted a big fancy wedding to feel important.

Harry's a spoilt brat and they did a good job keeping him in check for a while.

@Bellevu

Love this thread. No reflection about just why so many black British people were unshocked by the interview, yet many dismissing and mocking.

The more you deny/minimise the impact of the racism Meghan experienced, the more we hear you telling us the racism we encounter daily is all in our minds. You're not supporting the Royal family with this stance, you're actually undermining it.

Apparently one member of the RF made a racist remark, she didn’t say who. It’s one person in an extended family. Could be more, we just don’t know. At present it’s an unsubstantiated accusation. When will you realise that the vast majority of the uk who dislike her is not because she is of mixed race.

@Bellevu

Love this thread. No reflection about just why so many black British people were unshocked by the interview, yet many dismissing and mocking.

The more you deny/minimise the impact of the racism Meghan experienced, the more we hear you telling us the racism we encounter daily is all in our minds. You're not supporting the Royal family with this stance, you're actually undermining it.

I 100% agree. And so many people do think it is worse to be accused of racism than be racist.

@Alsohuman

do not know anyone else where both parents work very part-time and receive very large salaries, because their children are young

Not many GP couples in your social circle then. It’s endemic with them.

No there are not. Working 2.5 days a week - William, and some of those days being 3-4 hours, is a cushy number. Kate works much less and some of her engagements are with William to lunches and receptions. But Louis is still very young. But between them, they do not do one full-time job. And even what they do seems pretty meaningless. I mean Kate goes to Early Years Meetings. Realistically what does she contribute? She is not an expert, she has no real qualifications in early years. It is all a colossal waste of money.

There was (to me, in my truth at least) a real sense of screw you, UK proletariat, about the secret "real" wedding being revealed. (Yes I confess that to the disgust of my family I watched and loved it.)

I can appreciate a dislike of attention and the inherently public nature of a wedding being at odds with that impulse.
But then why not just keep it as a lovely personal and PRIVATE moment of mutual dedication?
I just don't understand the need to proclaim it to the masses via the Oprah interview. (Was it also in their book?)

Op I appreciate your investment and research into this topic.