To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

[quote fiheka]@Megan2018 yes that was very wrong. Harry says himself he did not understand racism until Meghan taught him more.
William is also rumoured to have dressed in a racist costume for a party but the photos have been removed from the internet.[/quote]
And again - based on no evidence.

Ultimately everyone will read into these 'stories' and take from them the meaning which supports the cause of the couple to whom they feel most aligned. If they care enough to bother.

If you trust 'reports' as you seem to OP, then MM is a bully, KM is pregnant with her 4th child etc etc - we ultimately choose what we believe in these cases.

Popularity isn't fixed though. Harry might be more popular than William for a while, but whether that stays after William becomes king and they're all older and becoming less glamorous, who knows. It would be stupid to do massive or on that basis - much better to wait for the inevitable fuck up.

@badpuma

Popularity isn't fixed though. Harry might be more popular than William for a while, but whether that stays after William becomes king and they're all older and becoming less glamorous, who knows. It would be stupid to do massive or on that basis - much better to wait for the inevitable fuck up.

I am not saying that is the only reason, could be coupled with others.

Who knows when the cockup may happen, what if they wait forever, the longer the person is popular, the easier they are to forgive.

It was a stupid idea regardless.
They should have just left H&M for the younger leftie audience, W&K to appease the conservative older ones. But then again they had been trying to position W&K as the younger up to date royals. But then again there is only space for one King in the palace.

The footage you linked to, while obviously unreliable as only a snapshot in time, does seem to show KM totally blanking MM. makes me like KM a bit more tbh! MM is sitting there all smiles to KMs face whilst sharpening daggers behind their backs. Who knew KM could give off such strong fuck you energy

They really weren’t as popular as you seem to think, they were being shown a generous amount of goodwill is what was happening which they threw back in everyone’s faces.

If the thing the press had on William was 100% etc there is nothing on earth that would prevent them running with it - stories about tiaras are hardly interesting, in exchange.

Seeing as H&M have completely misjudged the public tolerance for their view, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were leaking stories themselves about how hard done by they were by M not wearing tiara of choice etc, then it backfired as people didn’t agree that their position in line of succession warrants them demanding what they like.

Nothing happens when they leave the RF, it carries on so without a constitutional issue, they wildly misjudged their position within it. It isn’t how popular you are that matters, it is who is heir.

Really had a lot of goodwill rather than popularity as such, which is why the public cut any concern for them regarding their perceived injustices after OW. So leaking of some stories would fit with the pattern of not understanding how petulant they come across to the U.K. public. I’m more inclined to think M&H and their mates in the press -Bradby etc thought the public would be furious that Harry didn’t get what he wanted for a tiara etc They were wrong. As they misjudged the Africa interview - no-one asks how I am etc it has their fingerprints all over the leaks for me...

@Definately

The footage you linked to, while obviously unreliable as only a snapshot in time, does seem to show KM totally blanking MM. makes me like KM a bit more tbh! MM is sitting there all smiles to KMs face whilst sharpening daggers behind their backs. Who knew KM could give off such strong fuck you energy

How 'dignified' and 'future queenly' of her.

What about Meghan and Harry’s appalling behaviour?
I thought Kate and William acted very well at the funeral and were seen chatting to Harry quite clearly.

Having an honest reaction to Harry rings true to me - someone smiling like a Cheshire Cat when everyone’s had enough and it shows on their faces is bordering crazy behaviour to me

Actress level acting isn’t required for the royal family, so M’s ability to smile is actually like an off key note at that service, she doesn’t seem charming she seems to have no idea how unpleasant their behaviour to demand the heir doesn’t walk with the Queen if they can’t also do so.

That’s good grace - they gave H&M what they wanted again and sat with them, when they didn’t need to and the order of service showed them arriving with the Queen.

@Definately

The footage you linked to, while obviously unreliable as only a snapshot in time, does seem to show KM totally blanking MM. makes me like KM a bit more tbh! MM is sitting there all smiles to KMs face whilst sharpening daggers behind their backs. Who knew KM could give off such strong fuck you energy

This made me chuckle. And i agree tbh.

It's funny though. A 40 second video of me with DHs family might make me look as if i'm hating every minute. I have a bitchy resting face and can drift off with the fairies a bit after a few hours of sitting around chatting.

We can all only read the accounts and watch the footage we are fed and make up our own minds based on previous stories and footage we have been fed. And how we would feel if it was true and had happened in our own families.

If my BIL had gone on telly with his wife to talk about us all in a negative light i'd be a bit cats arse faced with him i public at the next get together.

I agree about the CC Marmalade. There was nothing to be smiling about. They were being Brits at a church service, and were, if truth be told, probably a bit cheesed off. You could say they were being authentic I found the smiling strange and could only conclude that Meghan wanted her fans to see how mean the RF all are to her.

Harry and Megan stabbed the Royals in the back, so I wouldn't exactly be surprised if Harry got a bit of cold shoulder from his family. Washing your dirty linen in public is pretty low but, as a pp said, the Markles have form for it so I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Yeah I guess that is what abusers do, hope you keep your mouth shut and be ashamed to speak out and they can carry on and get away with it behind closed doors.

@Mummy194

Yeah I guess that is what abusers do, hope you keep your mouth shut and be ashamed to speak out and they can carry on and get away with it behind closed doors.

Seriously? Prove it, everything is allegations you have nothing even Andrew is allegations everything they say is alleged or disproved even him saying he never rode his bike as a family with his dad disproved I wouldn't trust them to lie in bed straight right now

Which abusers? I think M and H could well be described as abusers. Accusing a member of the family of being racist. Withholding the name and wielding control on national TV. That’s fairly abusive in my book.

Mummy194 no I am not a liar!!

I'm not lying about Invictus or Sentebale.

What about Liketso! That poor child that Harry said they would support. Well he didn't because he's a bloody useless, lazy liar.

You just want to believe the PR that suits

What I remember from the Commonwealth Service is Meghan gurning when she saw a camera looking at her, Sophie spotting exactly what she was doing and giving her a very pointed look, at which point Meghan turned off her very acted smile and looked a little embarrassed.

There were no lies. A spin to try and discredit what they say by a very powerful British press. Spread it everywhere as much as you can.

Firstly, you cannot be seriously coming on here to defend Andrew. He is accused by a proper person, showing her face, who was a properly trafficked woman. He simply has to go to the FBI if he is so innocent. Was he not spotted by a woman at the club with VG, most definitely the groundskeeper at Lolita island saw them.

Not sure H was enamoured or counted PR stunts of him riding a bike with his father as a real thing. That is what he wants with Archie, real proper rides, not a press release.

What 17 lies? something to keep repeating and hope everyone will believe it eventually. Makes the press look like fools, also press make us look like idiots to the rest of the world.

1. As someone said on here, who on earth goes away to get married on a getaway island and comes back explaining that well, actually the real legal wedding was at the local council signing with witnesses. No one.

Not only did MM not deny they were legally married that Saturday, they also posted pics of themselves signing. They also never even alluded to any witnesses to their personal wedding.The AoC confirmed what they did not deny and said the rest was confidential.

It was a marriage personal to them.

Who on earth would call the queen a liar because she has 2 birthdays.

This is the most stupid and desperate accusation I've ever heard so far.

Also - talking about how hard the various members of the RF work - surely no-one thinks it's just about rocking up to engagements. There is masses of prep work - even if the notes and background information is provided by others. I read that Kate spent months/years learning about children's development before launching her Early Years project.

The one thing I really envy is that they don't have to worry about childcare or what to cook for dinner - but there are plenty of negatives in their lives that I'm very glad I don't have to live with.

@Mummy194

It was a marriage personal to them.
Any marriage is - by definition - a legal affair. It cannot be personal to them. They were not married three days before their wedding as she said - it's not possible, and not truthful.

Who on earth would call the queen a liar because she has 2 birthdays.
The Queen doesn't pretend that she was born on what is clearly labelled her 'official' birthday.

Love how the OP gone from bemoaning Harry’s shunning at a funeral to everyone who dislikes H&M are racists

[quote ajandjjmum]@Mummy194

It was a marriage personal to them.
Any marriage is - by definition - a legal affair. It cannot be personal to them. They were not married three days before their wedding as she said - it's not possible, and not truthful.

Who on earth would call the queen a liar because she has 2 birthdays.
The Queen doesn't pretend that she was born on what is clearly labelled her 'official' birthday.[/quote]
Not all marriages are legal affairs. Some are affairs of the heart.

I have been to so many wedding weekends. Some marry by the beach or garden with friends, then a formal white do with family and signing. I have also been to 'traditional' wedding on a Friday, followed by a white one on Saturday, then a BBQ on Sunday.
This is very closed minded thinking.

If she can have two birthdays, than people can also have two weddings. this is a non issue and non story, conveniently blown up.

Marriage is a legal construct , you can call other things ‘marriages ‘ but they are not . A ‘marriage’ is a legal contract . The events you have been too may be colloquially called marriage but they are not and to imply otherwise is fraudulent. Just ask Jerry Hall .

@MarthaJonesPhone

Mummy194 no I am not a liar!!

I'm not lying about Invictus or Sentebale.

What about Liketso! That poor child that Harry said they would support. Well he didn't because he's a bloody useless, lazy liar.

You just want to believe the PR that suits

Harry was helping this child via Sentebale, who happen to have a lot of young children to take care of. They did not go into details, as they said they refuse to comment on individual cases.

it is not unheard of for beneficiaries to use the funds for other things that they are not assigned for, so only the charity and those concerned will know the full story. Harry has a lot of trust for Sentebale and the Prince, it is quite unlikely he would just go against what they are doing.
The Sun as usual just searched for the most negative thing they could and ran with it.

@GlencoraP

Marriage is a legal construct , you can call other things ‘marriages ‘ but they are not . A ‘marriage’ is a legal contract . The events you have been too may be colloquially called marriage but they are not and to imply otherwise is fraudulent. Just ask Jerry Hall .

These people are not fraudsters, thank you very much.

These people are not fraudsters, thank you very much

In that case they need to get themselves to a registry office PDQ