Harry - transatlantic drawl already

[OverByYer]

Listening to a clip of him speaking at the ‘Vax’ event , he sounded like Gordon Ramsay. He seemed to be loving all the clapping and whooping,

He could avoid this by completely stopping using his titles
So he is representing himself

@GrownUpBeans

In the modern era I think the privilege of monarchy has to be connected with working for the good of the country. It will be interesting to see how Charles deals with this once he is king.

Neither Charles nor William will do anything about the titles.

Most titled people have a lot of money and power, and I mean proper power, running our country type of power. I don't imagine any of them will want to cross Viscount Rothsmere for example, and lots of others who could in effect end the crown literally, just through their influence.

Not really a necessity or hill the royals would want to die on.

I think Charles will restrict the granting and use of Prince/Princess titles, but that's just my guess.

As Lockupyourbiscuits says, it's about the brand. They need to protect it.

The idea of Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward's kids, Harry's kids, Charlotte and Louis all running their own hybrid charitable/profit-making endeavours in the future using their Prince/Princess titles is ridiculous. But why wouldn't they given the precedent set by Harry and Meghan?

@GrownUpBeans

I think Charles will restrict the granting and use of Prince/Princess titles, but that's just my guess.

The Prince/Princess titles were never an issue of being used all over the place though. Let's face it.

Except PC own children, only B&E were using these. These were naturally reducing anyway. PC himself, luckily in this regard has only 2 sons. So for H, it will just be Archie and sibling. On W side it will be his 3 children. If there was worry about too many princes/es then surely no one would have bothered with Charlotte and Louis - yes, I know the excuse is that Charlotte could have been older than George, however, this was done in 2012, , so if this was much of an issue then maybe they could have prepared the paperwork etc, and wait to hear from the scan if it's a boy or girl and put it out if needed. Turns out it was a boy.

All in all, they would have only had to deal with George first born a prince.

@OverByYer

Yes hopefully governments from around the world will now share their vaccines, because Harry has asked them to

Bit of a silly comment but I will respond.

No - not because of Harry alone - (still not sure how you only noticed Harry at the concert ) but because collectively this concert and other charities and organisations and events are raising funds and awareness towards Covid which is a global issue. - the more voices the more likely there is of action. India has obviously stopped exporting vaccines this has a massive impact on poorer Asian and African countries.

"I think Charles will restrict the granting and use of Prince/Princess titles, but that's just my guess."

A possibly stupid question from a foreigner: what would happen if "use of titles is restricted" by the monarch (?) and it is ignored? So e.g. Harry is (as I understand it a Prince) and then is told he may no longer call himself Prince, but does anyway? Obv. very awkward situation, but would there be any real (legal) consequences?

If his accent has changed its deliberate. I lived stateside for 5 years and never sounded American, a few months is nothing. I had friends who had lived in the USA for 25 years plus and sounded British

Other members of the royal family who work are mindful of this

LOL.

The royals interfere in the passing of UK laws for their own personal and financial benefit; pressure and manipulate the press to cover up negative stories; lobby and engage in inappropriate and unethical relationships with international arms dealers and heads of state accused of crimes against humanity; befriend convicted pedophiles for financial gain; and do endless tacky shit to flog the royal name for cash.

But sure, promoting messages like "voting is a good thing" or "people in poor countries deserve access to life-saving vaccines as much as people in wealthy countries" - gosh how shocking! Yes I totally see how being pro-democracy and anti-letting poor people die is against the morals and ethics of the BRF.

So true rose. That is absolutely right.
A good thing maligned, yet awful and gross stuff ignored.

I've seen the pics before but my oh my... the thrones one is gobsmacking isn't it.

A woman languishing in a NY jail accused for procuring very young girls for a paedophile, and an actor accused of sexual assault of a 14yo boy... both - with Andrew's permission - sat on thrones in BP.

A possibly stupid question from a foreigner: what would happen if "use of titles is restricted" by the monarch (?) and it is ignored? So e.g. Harry is (as I understand it a Prince) and then is told he may no longer call himself Prince, but does anyway? Obv. very awkward situation, but would there be any real (legal) consequences?

I'm English and I'm not sure. I suppose the law could be changed, but I'm not sure you could stop anyone calling themselves whatever they want, and not outside the UK in any case. But you also can't compel people to use titles either, so it may be that the public and media at some point just stop using the titles. I know Harry got some stick for 'just call me Harry", but I don't think it would have taken the public long to adjust to it. It's a shame he didn't pursue it.

But he is Prince Harry and was born a prince. Why shouldn't he be known by that? It's nothing to do with being a working royal, it's his title by birth. I don't understand why people are getting tied up in knots about it. The public are aware he's gone his own way, so he's not representing the Crown, but he's always going to have a high profile and this kind of cause is exactly the kind of thing he could do a lot of good for.

Some posters and sections of the media desperately want Harry and Meghan to fail
To be honest, I think that Harry has really come into his own and obviously feels appreciated in LA. He appears to be more confident and his pubic speaking skills have definitely improved
He is trying to do something useful and posters are accusing him of piggybacking.
His detractors will always turn something positive into an attack on Meghan and Harry
Just give it a rest ffs

He is the grandson of the Queen and the son and brother of the future king . To be called a Prince is his birthright

Point of spotterish detail, his style is (HRH) Prince, and his title is the dukedom.

Use of a style is entirely within the gift of the monarch

But I agree, he was born a Prince so shoud keep it (not least because everyone will still call him that anyhow). The HRH is currently in abeyance (which is why in brackets above) and could perhaps be ended completely once the separation is definitive (I've lost track of what is happening in terms of review periods etc)

The HRH isn't in abeyance. It remains his legal right to use it if he so wishes, however he agreed to the request not to use it.

@Becles

The HRH isn't in abeyance. It remains his legal right to use it if he so wishes, however he agreed to the request not to use it.

That's exactly what 'in abeyance' means - in a state of temporary disuse

Re the accent some people do change quite quickly. Mine often does involuntarily if I’m with a group with strong accents. I have to be quite careful at work now because it just sort of happens and don’t want people to think I’m taking the piss.

There’s that ‘word salad’ phrase again ConnieCaterpillar.

It fascinates me that this phrase comes directly from the daily Mail (those who use it don’t use it correctly so clearly aren’t experienced in psychiatry) and has been slavishly adopted by so many.

What an amazing insight into the power of trashy tabloids. Not just directing the narrative for some, but actually providing the vocabulary.

It's interesting how language changes. Until a few months ago, a staycation was a holiday at home, not a holiday in the UK.

That the phrase 'word salad' now has a meaning in ordinary speech, that is no longer the same as its origin would be a classic example of the normal evolution of language.

Dictionaries now list it as " mixture of words or phrases that is confused and difficult to understand: Your explanation is a pompous word salad, with absolutely no meaning"

The transfer, as far as I can pick out etymologically, began in US