Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

i believe M knew all details about titles and security very well (even more than H) but just tried to twist things to racism, victimhood out in front of the world with OW interview to get what she wants.
same as the royal duties. she knew she had to do them but she didnt want to do them for free.

Totally agree Frownette. The 'royal experts' are absolute idiots, most if not all.

Especially when three of them did a video piece laying into M&H about the OW interview.
The sting was.... they recorded it before the interview was released.
Says it all as far as I'm concerned.
They're a waste of space

Which royal experts?

Here you go then.... these are the three who did the nasty video before the interview was aired.

Dickie Arbiter
Ingrid Seward
Richard Fitzwilliams

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@jakc

In the Oprah interview, Meghan said that "three days before our wedding, we got married". "No one knows that. But we called the archbishop, and we just said, 'Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us,'" she said

Marriage is a legal ceremony. If they didn’t get married, they shouldn’t have said that.
She could have said ‘we exchanged private vows before the ceremony’ but she thought she was being clever[/quote]
This, the look on her face when she said this, she might as well have added "so fuck you and the cost of YOUR wedding".

Thing is Meghan married the man who wore the Nazi costume. A WOC, his wife, made the judgement that he isn't racist otherwise I can't imagine she'd have married him. Is that not enough for everyone?

Can we refer to Oprah Winfrey as Oprah or something? using the letters OW is confusing the hell out if me im reading it as "other woman" its not a big deal im just pissing myself off with my distinct lack of reading skills today

I think racism is a bit of a red herring here tbh. I don't deny there have been some horrible racist things said about Meghan, it's abhorrent and it just shouldn't happen. But the majority of people are not inherently racist and racism get very short thrift amongst the public these days, it's wrong end of.

I feel for MM, she's had a lot of crap thrown at her in the last few years. I sure as hell would not want that level of public scrutiny. Being new, not understanding stuff, feeling like you're always compared to your SIL. All that plus wedding stress, pregnancy, miscarriage and another pregnancy on top. That's a hell of a lot to go through.

It doesn't however mean that she is exempt from criticism, she's human and obviously this has left her with some issues, that doesn't necessarily mean that the way she feels is correct, right or true. Sometimes we focus on the wrong thing, sometimes we get OCD, sometimes we can't get any perspective on it because we are so in the middle of it.

What I see when I look at her is someone who's anger, bitterness and need to lash out is due to the Mental pressure she's been under for the last few years. I don't like her, the way she comes across, but I understand and empathise with her situation.

Harry on the other hand seems completely ineffectual and clueless about his own fucking family.

@amusedtodeath1

I think racism is a bit of a red herring here tbh. I don't deny there have been some horrible racist things said about Meghan, it's abhorrent and it just shouldn't happen. But the majority of people are not inherently racist and racism get very short thrift amongst the public these days, it's wrong end of.

I feel for MM, she's had a lot of crap thrown at her in the last few years. I sure as hell would not want that level of public scrutiny. Being new, not understanding stuff, feeling like you're always compared to your SIL. All that plus wedding stress, pregnancy, miscarriage and another pregnancy on top. That's a hell of a lot to go through.

It doesn't however mean that she is exempt from criticism, she's human and obviously this has left her with some issues, that doesn't necessarily mean that the way she feels is correct, right or true. Sometimes we focus on the wrong thing, sometimes we get OCD, sometimes we can't get any perspective on it because we are so in the middle of it.

What I see when I look at her is someone who's anger, bitterness and need to lash out is due to the Mental pressure she's been under for the last few years. I don't like her, the way she comes across, but I understand and empathise with her situation.

Harry on the other hand seems completely ineffectual and clueless about his own fucking family.

Yes I agree that Meghan has been under a lot of pressure.

who's anger, bitterness and need to lash out

What on earth are you on about?

Re the grill advert and many non-Royal things a grown woman dared to embark on without the virtue of being psychic - I think this generation have been a bit 'spoiled' by that fact William married his past-less Uni girlfriend. He's the future King and would always be expected to marry 'well' - well being someone nice, compliant, with no past and no skeletons in the closet. William would never have been allowed to marry a Meghan (a woman who had a life before she met him). With Harry it was always gonna be more flexible for him, so I don't see why it's the slightest bit relevant any of the work she did or relationships she had prior to being a member of the RF.

Oh bite off @DeeCeeCherry not everyone who dislikes MM is racist and no one has said anything racist about her son.

*bore not bite

@EdithWeston

Last time with little Archie she was a useless mother the way she held him in a papoose

I think you're projecting here.

She was clearly unfamiliar with that sling and Archie was not being properly held/supported by it. Of course a posters with experience of slings will notice that, and there are a higher number of them on thus website than in the population in general.

A mistake over a sling is not the sum of maternity. But it is something that went wrong

I doubt she was unfamiliar with the sling. To me she looked like she was or had just finished breastfeeding him on the go when she got papped. I have the same baby carrier she used (Ergobaby Omni) and that's exactly how I looked while breastfeeding and baby wearing. You have to release one of the straps a little but the baby is still safe. I never had an issue with DS being close to falling out and I doubt Archie was either. It's not an ergonomically optimal position for the baby in the carrier but it's only temporary anyway.

@Cacacoisfarraige

There’s a touch of the Wickham about Harry. I can imagine a BP housekeeper saying ‘he’s turned out very ill’

there's never a bad time to shoe-in a P&P reference

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

By the same token, she wouldn’t have married into a family if she thought they were racist ?[/quote]
In a normal world, you marry the man not the family. Normal people can relegate interactions with the ILs to a once-a-month visit. Not the same in the RF, I do wonder if she was fully aware that she was marrying the family too

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I just wonder if she confused a-list and royalty[/quote]
I believe this is the crux of the problem. A lack of understanding between very different cultures.

There’s a touch of the Wickham about Harry. I can imagine a BP housekeeper saying ‘he’s turned out very ill’

👏👏
Now that he's free to do what he wants, we've certainly discovered how expert the royal press/pr team were at keeping his flaws hidden.

People who aren't angry, bitter and Don't feel the need to lash out don't usually slag of the In Law on TV. Now she may have very valid reasons for being pissed off but that doesn't mean she is not. Not everything is a criticism. It's quite possible to admit someone has flaws or has got something wrong without it being a vicious insult. We all do it. This is what pissed me off about these threads everything you say is pushed to one extreme (Meghan can do no wrong how dare you insinuate she's a fallible human being) to the other (Meghan can do no right how dare you insinuate she might just be a fallible human being).

Both extremes are wrong.

Apologies for the spelling.