Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

I think selling access to her ex husband for £500,000 is pretty much rubbishing the family and using it, but hey... let's agree to disagree.

@Roussette

I think selling access to her ex husband for £500,000 is pretty much rubbishing the family and using it, but hey... let's agree to disagree.

I think her husband was OK with that though. Spectacularly awful but not washing dirty linen and hurting people by insulting them.

With all due respect I don’t think it is quite the same, Prince Andrew knew about this and colluded. It wasn’t as if she was doing it behind his back ‘she’ wasn’t so much selling access to him as ‘they ‘ were selling access . In typical Andrew way though he let her take the flack, however in return he got Epstein to pay off her debts , total showers the both of them.

I think her husband was OK with that though

I think you are having a laugh here. It caused a real problem at the time and the RF were appalled. Plenty of washing dirty linen in her books bleating about how awful it was in the RF.

With all due respect I don’t think it is quite the same, Prince Andrew knew about this and colluded
He categorically denied knowing anything about it. That's on record in an official statement from his office

He categorically denied knowing anything about it. That's on record in an official statement from his office

He also denied being in a nightclub because he was in Pizza Express and denied having the ability to sweat...

He certainly isn’t/wasn’t angry enough to cut his links with his ex wife over iy

We could go round in circles yet again discussing what Sarah Ferguson did or didn’t do compared to Meghan and Harry. The fact remains that she (SF) never claimed that she wanted “freedom”and “independence from the RF whilst at the same time using her connections for money. She may well have actually used her connections in this way, but she didn’t pretend she wanted nothing to do with the RF at the same time.

Who the hell do these bloody courtiers and men in grey suits want the princes to marry? European royalty and the virgin daughters of the aristocracy?

It's all so bloody sexist and Victorian.

I think that's why so many people genuinely did wish Sarah Ferguson and Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle well.

The snobbery they've faced from the courtiers and men in grey suits has been palpable. The Queen has enabled it for far too long, which in turn has enabled the tabloid press to exploit the fissures.

But I don't think the Queen spends her days analysing the class prejudice of her courtiers, somehow. As with the rest of the RF, we hear occasional platitudes about us being one big family or one nation. Are we fuck.

The full timetable for Charles and Camilla's wedding is available <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.princeofwales.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Media%2520Pack%2520-%2520Wedding%25202005_0.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiaoM7vxbTwAhWkUxUIHSXRCKU4HhAWMAh6BAgKEAI&usg=AOvVaw0ItwxtNlBV3x3EhhOqXmzc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here (Windsor Guildhall first for the legal civil ceremony, followed by the blessing at St George's Chapel).

"It's absolute on the record legal fact that Jason Knauf is the person who gave the Thomas Markle letter to the press"

That's not what the official court paperwork says. Paragraph 12.2:

The Articles stated, as was the case, that while Thomas Markle had disclosed the full contents of the Letter to the Defendant, the Defendant was publishing extracts from it

None of the legal filings say Knauf gave the letter to the press.

The legal filings (from the defence) also say that Thomas paid off Meghan’s student loans: “He had paid her private school fees. He had paid all her college tuition, and after she left Northwestern University he continued to pay off her student loans, even after she had landed a well-paid role in Suits.”

"Oh and I forgot to mention he once told an interviewer he paid for Meghan's first wedding using money he got from selling Facebook shares, but Facebook didn't even go public till a year after the wedding. Meaning what he said is quite literally not physically possible."

It's impossible to know if Thomas Markle held pre-IPO shares in Facebook, however it's perfectly possible to both hold and sell shares in a company before they are publicly listed. The clue is in the name - Initial Public Offering. Pre-IPO shares are not traded publicly, however it's perfectly possible to sell them and make a profit.

The pattern seems to be: people criticising M&H are able to also see faults in others and their part in the mess as well as understanding restrictions/protocols for working within the RF.

The blind faith supporters only see Thomas behaving poorly and H&M are beyond reproach. M has all the traits of her father and is identical in behaviour patterns.

Rainy - quoting Thomas abusively using health issues to control; misinterprets events; sense of entitlement to a relationship and demands for answers.

All of Meghan's behaviour fits exactly that same pattern - going public with her personal feelings and disappointments and expecting an apology ie. H&M saying conversations have been "unproductive" following the Oprah show.

Regarding the letter sent to her father - I suspect a little of the "set a trap". I don't believe Meghan couldn't have foreseen how her handwritten letter (calligraphy style) to her dad dumping him, might one day end up in the press etc The sweeping handwriting style has the hallmark of someone (self-importantly) writing for posterity of how they wished to be viewed.

Meghan knows the way to deal with someone abusive/threatening is to ignore them - it is frustrating and escalates, but then dies away with no new oxygen. Exactly how the RF are now reacting to M&H - continue blanking and move on without them.

Meghan used a world stage to say everything at the RF was an attack on her, when all the facts have now shown to be protocols (she may be confused or lying, depending on your view; however, she is wrong).

Maybe some now understand (including Meghan) how irrelevant Harry is in the line of succession and why he is in no place to demand change. He's only in it, if the Head of State wishes for him to represent her.

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology

Who the hell do these bloody courtiers and men in grey suits want the princes to marry? European royalty and the virgin daughters of the aristocracy?

It's all so bloody sexist and Victorian.

I think that's why so many people genuinely did wish Sarah Ferguson and Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle well.

The snobbery they've faced from the courtiers and men in grey suits has been palpable. The Queen has enabled it for far too long, which in turn has enabled the tabloid press to exploit the fissures.

But I don't think the Queen spends her days analysing the class prejudice of her courtiers, somehow. As with the rest of the RF, we hear occasional platitudes about us being one big family or one nation. Are we fuck.

Meghan's courtiers included a Ghanaian equerry and women who weren't of British origin. Australians, for instance. Not really men in grey suits.

I always thought Sarah couldn't speak out as she might have lost the girls.
I remember reading how she never got to spend christmas with them.

This has been spoken about often, how the Queen has personally reprimanded Meghan on how she speaks to staff. Katie Nichol writes for many publications including Vanity Fair and is a reliable source, before anyone says "tabloid".

The Queen has a handle on things and doesn't think being rude to staff is acceptable - we always say see how a man treats the waiting staff in a restaurant etc. There were red flags on her behaviour, similar to her dad's, similar to Stately Homes...

www.geo.tv/latest/338343-meghan-markle-slammed-by-queen-elizabeth-over-an-egg-we-dont-do-that

At that point, the Queen reportedly stepped into the scene and Ms Nicholl claims, "I think there was a bit of an upset when suddenly the Queen walked in, because of course, this was Windsor Castle, this is her home. And she just quietly took Meghan to the side and said, 'Meghan, in this family we don't speak to people like that."

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology

Great post, never a truer word spoken!

how irrelevant Harry is in the line of succession and why he is in no place to demand change

What does that mean? Demanding change? I missed him doing that, given he's left.

Somebody claiming something doesn't make it fact. 'Reportedly' doesn't either. This is a 'Royal Reporter'... I put them in the Nicholas Witchell, Ingrid Seward box. Irrelevant. How someone like her knows about Meghan's egg god alone knows 😂

If I posted something like that that was more supportive of Meghan, I would have my arse handed to me on a plate.

Regarding my post above, the story was all over the press at the time, however M didn't want to put her "truth" on the Queen telling her off - too many witnesses, I guess....

Meghan did insist that it was essential, apparently, to clear up who was crying before the wedding, whether it was M stressed from wedding preparation or K tired etc 2 weeks after giving birth.

Not really worth worrying about, but the Queen having to reprimand you about how you speak to staff - that is something surely she would want to put straight? No, is the answer apparently.

Why would Meghan care if there was egg in a dish, unless there is some vital detail missing such as that someone is allergic etc.

Just total nonsense.

On that though, the Queen must have been furious that time Charles was widely reported to have smashed up the bathroom and throttled his butler. No? I see.

It was re. macrobiotic diets..... (egg) and M worried about her Hollywood "friends" she was meeting for the first time at her own wedding and their eating habits

It's everywhere, see the Katie Nicoll articles (wrote a book about H&M ie. same as Scobie) - seems difficult to accept a "wrong" view of Meghan doesn't it. Anything Scobie says is true .....hmmm

Honestly - do most people criticise Meghan because racism - I am not sure - Other stuff yes I will criticise her for but not because of the colour of her skin.

Well there you go - just my opinion - criticise me away

I don't think anyone criticise her because of racism, people criticise because her actions speak far louder than her words.

Writing books about a sweet father child relationship, when both you and the father in question have done so much damage and hurt to your own fathers.
Archie and bump won't stay babies forever!
One day the tide will turn.

Oh and one more point I suspect she & he want very many people in the US "liking" them - they really should realise that they have embarrassed the RF - whether you like a constitutional monarchy or not - those are the rules. Until it changes. It feels weird that they think they are owed a huge amount of money.

@Lockdownbear

Apparently the Happy Birthday message from the PoW account features a photo of PC, H and Archie, without M. I don’t think any communication from the RF is done by accident and it sends a message that M is not in favour.

So Meghan has done so much damage and hurt to her father?

It's the other way round. Selling stories about her to anyone that will pay, setting up photoshoots just before the wedding whilst pretending it was just coincidence, doing interviews for the money, working with the UK tabloids and passing on private letters..the list is endless..

well... if my Dad had done even 10% of remotely anything like him I would be cutting contact.

Yet she is the one who has damaged him