Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

Thats it exactly the RF inc Charles welcomed Meghan and Doria with open arms.

Leaking negative stories about someone to the tabloids to detract attention from other royals' personal scandals is not welcoming someone with open arms.

I know that’s a favourite opinion on here but what is the evidence?

@ohforarainyday

Meghan didn't understand that her father was just as worthy as any person at the wedding. He was an Emmy winner for a start. Such a shame.

Yes, it is a shame that he ghosted her and refused to attend her wedding, after she did everything in her power to beg and plead with him to be there, even to the point of arranging flights and clothes and taking care of everything for him so he didn't have to lift a finger except to get on the plane.

It's shocking that a father would betray his own daughter so badly.

Do you mean the father that looked after her most of her teenage years ? The one that paid her school and college fees and attended her first wedding?
They were estranged/not on speaking terms for at least some of her late teenage years. And most of that has been debunked, or at least there's no evidence it's true.

Then he was left to the mercy of the tabloids. Who was asking if he was OK during that?
It was actually Infamous Jason Knauf who's job was, very explicitly, Thomas Markle press handler. The same Jason Knauf who was leaking negative stories about Meghan to his best mate Dan Wootton the entire time, gave the Thomas Markle letter to the Daily Mail, was involved in the extremely sketchy Melissa Touabti gross misconduct incident, and was rewarded for all this backstabbing by Will and Kate making him their CEO.

He didn’t ghost her and refuse to attend her wedding. He was in hospital having suffered heart surgery. He was a not very well man who had never met his future son in law. Expected to fly in to perform a very important part in a huge wedding watched by millions just a few days beforehand. He wouldn’t even have recovered from the jet lag. In addition he was expected to meet the RF. For a reclusive and unwell man this would have been a big ask and very intimidating. As it happens he made a fool of himself so was embarrassed, and then had a heart attack.

Yes they were estranged for periods when she had left home. However when she met Harry their relationship was fine. He did pay for her college and school fees. He won the lottery and funded her partly through that.

As for the feeding of stories, I think the jury is out on that one. Certainly M was feeding her own stories , so both sides were at it if this was the case.

@ohforarainyday Thanks for sharing that as I wasn’t aware who these people but have heard of Dan Whooton from the Amanda Knox documentary. But what do you mean by “rewarded”? That very last sentence seems rather speculative as it implies prior knowledge.

He didn’t ghost her and refuse to attend her wedding. He was in hospital having suffered heart surgery.

The letters confirm that he ghosted her, and he certainly didn't get on the plane that had been arranged to bring him over for the wedding.

There's no evidence he ever had a heart attack and plenty of evidence to suggest he made it all up.

He did pay for her college and school fees. He won the lottery and funded her partly through that.
There's no evidence of that.

As for the feeding of stories, I think the jury is out on that one. Certainly M was feeding her own stories , so both sides were at it if this was the case.
No it's not. It's absolute on the record legal fact that Jason Knauf is the person who gave the Thomas Markle letter to the press, and that Jason Knauf was the one who leaked the bullying allegation. Dan Wootton has confirmed that Jason leaked stories to him, and other tabloids journalists have gone on record as saying Sussex staffers had their personal mobile phone numbers and were phoning them up late at night to give them stories.

Byline Times has hard evidence (copies of bank statements) proving that Will&Kate's press secretary's partner received two payments totalling £4000 from a bank account belonging to the Sun newspaper.

But what do you mean by “rewarded”? That very last sentence seems rather speculative as it implies prior knowledge.

Will and Kate chose to appoint as their CEO, a press handler with no experience running a foundation, a proven history of being untrustworthy, a proven history of stabbing his bosses in the back, a proven history of leaking royal secrets to the tabloids, a proven history of breaking NDAs, who was best friends since uni with a tabloid editor, and was also responsible for hiring his girlfriend/close friend to a high up position in the Sussex household doing a job she'd never done before, who was later fired for gross misconduct, yet strangely managed to tumble into a new job as nanny for a billionaire Tory who's sister is a Daily Mail reporter.

Why would Will and Kate even consider appointing a man with that kind of record to such a lofty position (and why didn't they fire their press sec over the Sun bank statements scandal) unless Jason Knauf didn't go rogue but was actually acting under orders?

I am amused at the love and admiration for Thomas Markle on here!
This is the man who was selling stories and private details about his daughter to the press continually.
Usual MN advice is to go NC. MM would be on Stately homes thread
And as for the interviews...
"Now's the time to give to Daddy"
Say no more

@Andylion
Your response to my post makes no sense

I love the portrayal of a man who's happily jetted around to participate in paid press interviews and PR stunts (like turning up to his ex-wife's house in another country with paps in tow), who spills his personal family dirt to every journalist that comes along, as "reclusive."

Thomas Markle is about as reclusive as Kim Kardashian.

Oh and I forgot to mention he once told an interviewer he paid for Meghan's first wedding using money he got from selling Facebook shares, but Facebook didn't even go public till a year after the wedding. Meaning what he said is quite literally not physically possible. He lied about paying for her wedding, why believe he's telling the truth about paying for something else?

@ohforarainyday I have no idea why they did that. I also have no idea who Jason Knauf even is until I saw his name mentioned a few times on MN. As said, I don’t usually follow royal news closely and I have no idea who even works for “The Firm”. I don’t even know if Will and Kate hire people themselves personally or if they have someone who does that for them and perhaps they defer to their experience? That would be my assumption, so I wouldn’t assume that they rewarded someone but you seem to know a lot about this than I do.

@Roussette

I am amused at the love and admiration for Thomas Markle on here! This is the man who was selling stories and private details about his daughter to the press continually. Usual MN advice is to go NC. MM would be on Stately homes thread And as for the interviews... "Now's the time to give to Daddy" Say no more

@Andylion
Your response to my post makes no sense

I think my post is perfectly clear. You don't understand the fuss? As if you have never been on a M&H thread.

It's absolute on the record legal fact that Jason Knauf is the person who gave the Thomas Markle letter to the press

The letter that the Mail got a copy of from Thomas Markle? Where did it become on the record legal fact that it came from Jason Knauf? Is there a link? Are there links to show any of the things in your posts?

@sitandwait

It's absolute on the record legal fact that Jason Knauf is the person who gave the Thomas Markle letter to the press

The letter that the Mail got a copy of from Thomas Markle? Where did it become on the record legal fact that it came from Jason Knauf? Is there a link? Are there links to show any of the things in your posts?

I thought it was Thomas Markle who admitted in a TV interview that he himself shared parts of the letter with the press.

He did pay for her college and school fees. He won the lottery and funded her partly through that. There's no evidence of that.
Who paid Meghan's school fees then? Are you saying she had a job when she was a school child?

im confused. so her dad payed for her schooling, so she has to put up with him whatever he does? surely as her parent he was responsible for her schooling.

@Andylion
*I think my post is perfectly clear. You don't understand the fuss? As if you have never been on a M&H thread."

You're talking about it like it should be normal and we should be morally outraged at her writing a book, when Royals have written hundreds. No, not clear to me at all why it's normal to have this enormous outpouring of disgust and annoyance at one book like she's done some abhorrent act and we should be horrified and writing about it.

Next book might be about a baby rabbit. Shock horror, she had a rabbit when she was 8 and lived with her Father! How dare Meghan write about baby rabbits when it's obvious he bought her that rabbit, and now she's got the nerve to write about a rabbit in a childrens story!

I don’t think anyone has moral outrage that she has written a book. It doesn’t look like it’s a very good book but as we have said, neither are others often written and published by those in the public eye. The point people are marking is that she has written and published it purely because of the title and association with royalty that she has. As did Fergie, but she never rubbished the very institution that gave her that title.

As did Fergie, but she never rubbished the very institution that gave her that title

Ummm... She just wrote a book about how awful her time was within the 'establishment' and how the men in grey suits and the institution were plotting against her.

@Samcro

im confused. so her dad payed for her schooling, so she has to put up with him whatever he does? surely as her parent he was responsible for her schooling.

She doesn't have to put up with him whatever he does. The poster I quoted implied that Thomas Markle didn't pay her school fees. I was asking who did since it was a private school. He didn't need to send her to private school at all. Of course a parent paying for school fees doesn't mean they are the perfect parent but to state they didn't pay at all is bonkers.

She hasn’t said negative things about family members thougj

Oops! Posted too soon. She didn’t say negative things about family members though or express a desire to be “free “ until her divorce. And she is now writing as “Sarah Ferguson”. I am not wanting to defend her particularly, I’m just saying that it’s not quite a direct comparison.

to state they didn't pay at all is bonkers.

You said school AND university fees.

I was talking exclusively about the university part of your post.

There's no evidence he paid for any of her university education, she's on the record as saying she paid for it herself via work and scholarships, and there's proof he lied about paying for other things.

You said school AND university fees. I quoted someone else. I was talking about school fees in the British meaning of the word 'school'.

Two seperate people will never be a direct comparison. Different situations, different times.
However, to say she didn't criticise the institution she benefited from is wrong, because she really did. She said they tried to get her out from day one, they lied to her, they leaked stories to the press etc.
So nothing much has changed in decades.

Yes she is now writing as SF. She wrote as DoY for a very long time as in 'Dining with the Duchess' , 'Dieting with the Duchess' and so on!😂

It’s all den of vipers really and who knows what has really happened. I think TM has behaves very badly. However I also think MM has behaved appallingly towards the RF and she seems to have many of the same characteristics as her father. Manipulating the truth to suit her own agenda, taking offence very easily. An inability to take responsibility for actions but blame others. I think they are apples from the same tree.

SF has many faults but she hasn’t publicly rubbished the RF. She has talked about the courtiers and the system but not slagged off the family itself in a personal way. She herself received far less support than MM has whilst married to Andrew. I don’t think much of her as a Person but she appears to respect the family and isn’t blatantly attention seeking for herself.

@mermaidsariel. Thanks. That’s what I was trying to say. She certainly didn’t rubbish the family while she was still married to a member of it. And she didn’t make demonstrably false claims about titles for her children etc.