Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

[artquejtion]

He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

Ah no, JustLyra, I meant Doria and Thomas.

@Frownette

Ah no, JustLyra, I meant Doria and Thomas.

Ah right. Sorry.

The Telegraph has a piece about the book and how it is interesting that it chose to highlight father / son relationships in light of both Harry and Meghan’s difficulties with their family relationships at the moment. It muses on whether there will be any rapprochement. It also points out that Charles must be very hurt by Harry and claimed that he welcomed Meghan and got on well with her and that he only stopped talking to Harry as it became clear they were leaving. Whatever happened between Meghan and Thomas, and however he has behaved, I’m not sure Charles has done anything to warrant the same treatment. He must be very distressed. He is a human being after all.

Meghan has posted very kindly about her DDad until only a year or so before the wedding. So whatever had give on was very recent.

Prince Harry didn't even go to meet him, which strikes me as very odd.

Then he was left to the mercy of the tabloids. Who was asking if he was OK during that?

And how telling that the majority of posters on this thread are totally ignoring

Perhaps they are unaware of it.

I think Meghan was very dignified in how she handled her awful family before the wedding and since, her father and sister have been nothing less than horrible and toxic.

Considering what has transpired with her father and the kind of person he is, I can totally understand why Meghan didn't invite Harry to meet him before the wedding, and why they wouldn't want their children to be introduced to him.

Unless I missed it I'm surprised this hasn't already been said, but on the thing about H&M now realising the title issue wasn't motivated by racism ... is anyone else wondering if the palace have had a hand in this?

In view of the "recollections may vary / it'll be dealt with privately", it seems likely they'd have been challenged behind the scenes, and perhaps the latest statement could suggest evidence wasn't forthcoming and that this is the family's pound of flesh?

Perhaps the law firm contacted H&M directly. We wouldn't know unless anything was released, or 'released' as it is nowadays (where is a goddam royal expert when you want 'em...)

@artquejtion

I think Meghan was very dignified in how she handled her awful family before the wedding and since, her father and sister have been nothing less than horrible and toxic.

Considering what has transpired with her father and the kind of person he is, I can totally understand why Meghan didn't invite Harry to meet him before the wedding, and why they wouldn't want their children to be introduced to him.

Really? Do you have a family? Are you married?

Hand on heart, if I married a prince I think I'd be gutted if my DCs weren't Princes or Princesses.

@artquejtion

I think Meghan was very dignified in how she handled her awful family before the wedding and since, her father and sister have been nothing less than horrible and toxic.

Considering what has transpired with her father and the kind of person he is, I can totally understand why Meghan didn't invite Harry to meet him before the wedding, and why they wouldn't want their children to be introduced to him.

Do you mean the father that looked after her most of her teenage years ? The one that paid her school and college fees and attended her first wedding? The one she supposedly adored before meeting Harry? That one? The half sister and brother are a different scenario as she was never close to them.

@BalloonSlayer yes I think you'd assume that came with the territory

@smilesy

The Telegraph has a piece about the book and how it is interesting that it chose to highlight father / son relationships in light of both Harry and Meghan’s difficulties with their family relationships at the moment. It muses on whether there will be any rapprochement. It also points out that Charles must be very hurt by Harry and claimed that he welcomed Meghan and got on well with her and that he only stopped talking to Harry as it became clear they were leaving. Whatever happened between Meghan and Thomas, and however he has behaved, I’m not sure Charles has done anything to warrant the same treatment. He must be very distressed. He is a human being after all.

Yes he seems to have gone out of his way to be welcoming and loving and this is the thanks he gets.

@BalloonSlayer

Hand on heart, if I married a prince I think I'd be gutted if my DCs weren't Princes or Princesses.

Not if you were an avowed feminist who made a thing about ‘speaking your truth’ and ‘women’s voices being heard’. Why would you want to be part of such an arcane system at all? One based on hereditary privilege and keeping silent on political matters? Clearly the wedding didn’t mean much to her. She saw it as something done for others and the real wedding to her took place three days beforehand. Never mind that she was marrying an Prince then. She picks and chooses what suits her agenda .

I did wince a bit when she called the real wedding a 'spectacle', it made an affront of the performers, and millions of people who had best wishes for them. They really didn't need to have such a huge do.

@mermaidsariel exactly how I feel. He looked so happy to be walking M down the aisle and helped turn a sticky and awkward situation into something lovely. H saying ‘thanks pa’ was really sweet too. It appeared he made Doria feel relaxed after the ceremony too. Less than two years later, H is making him look terrible in an interview watched by millions across the world. We are to believe that M and H are justified in having poor relationships with both fathers through no fault at all on their part? Nonsense.

@Marmaladeagain

TBF - they didn’t ask for proof of occupation when i registered births, don’t know if different now?!! any of us could put self employed Princess etc... don’t see why not.

The new baby will be born and registered in California, though, where birth certificates are publicly accessible. So it will be made public. Though I don't know if those certificates ask for the occupation of the parents. I think she'll put 'humanitarian' or some such if they do.

Do they ever check what you put down is correct? It's pretty straightforward if it's accountant/lawyer/engineer etc.

I'd be tempted to put something outré if I was left to my own devices, hate form filling

@goldierocks

Pope John-Paul II's funeral was held on the Friday, which was also the original date for Charles & Camilla's wedding. The prime minister and Archbishop of Canterbury said they would be attending the funeral. Prince Charles represented the Queen, hence the wedding was moved to the Saturday. Full story here.

It was also highly significant that the Queen (as Head of the Church of England) did not attend Charles and Camilla's wedding ceremony, (she attended the church blessing instead), but did obviously go to Harry & Meghan's wedding.

@goldierocks I don't seem to have a good recollection of this. So was the wedding done in advance of the blessing? I presume the blessing was what I watched on tv. Do we know who was at the wedding and where that took place?

@MrsRockAndRoll The wedding was earlier in the day at Windsor Guildhall. The blessing/prayer service is what was televised.

His two sons, his siblings and their children were all there. His parents were not.

@Cacacoisfarraige

MM would have gotten a book deal whether or not she was married to PH. It’s unlikely she would have gotten on Oprah but she still could have shifted a few copies.

It’s hardy Mein kampf

That is the best laugh I've had all day. Meghan would have had a book published if she hadn't married Harry. 😂

@Roussette

Not sure what the fuss is about this one book when other Royals have written tons of books when within the RF and outside it. Weird.

You are being disingenuous. You might not agree with Meghan being in the news all the time, but it should not surprise you that everything she does creates interest.

[quote Lauren15]@mermaidsariel exactly how I feel. He looked so happy to be walking M down the aisle and helped turn a sticky and awkward situation into something lovely. H saying ‘thanks pa’ was really sweet too. It appeared he made Doria feel relaxed after the ceremony too. Less than two years later, H is making him look terrible in an interview watched by millions across the world. We are to believe that M and H are justified in having poor relationships with both fathers through no fault at all on their part? Nonsense.[/quote]
Thats it exactly the RF inc Charles welcomed Meghan and Doria with open arms. And that interview was the thanks they got a complete slap in the face.

I'm still half convinced they'll end up divorced. And that will be far dirtier and messier than an other Royal divorce.

Meghan didn't understand that her father was just as worthy as any person at the wedding. He was an Emmy winner for a start. Such a shame.

Yes, it is a shame that he ghosted her and refused to attend her wedding, after she did everything in her power to beg and plead with him to be there, even to the point of arranging flights and clothes and taking care of everything for him so he didn't have to lift a finger except to get on the plane.

It's shocking that a father would betray his own daughter so badly.

Do you mean the father that looked after her most of her teenage years ? The one that paid her school and college fees and attended her first wedding?
They were estranged/not on speaking terms for at least some of her late teenage years. And most of that has been debunked, or at least there's no evidence it's true.

Then he was left to the mercy of the tabloids. Who was asking if he was OK during that?
It was actually Infamous Jason Knauf who's job was, very explicitly, Thomas Markle press handler. The same Jason Knauf who was leaking negative stories about Meghan to his best mate Dan Wootton the entire time, gave the Thomas Markle letter to the Daily Mail, was involved in the extremely sketchy Melissa Touabti gross misconduct incident, and was rewarded for all this backstabbing by Will and Kate making him their CEO.