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Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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artquejtion · 01/05/2021 09:32

He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

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Roussette · 05/05/2021 15:53

Ahhhh.. makes sense reading that then. It wasn't that he wasn't invited, he didn't get a formal scroll/paper invite. That is what that article implies to me.

ohforarainyday · 05/05/2021 15:54

How lovely that Meghan won her lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday today.

(And how telling that the majority of posters on this thread are totally ignoring it. GrinGrinGrin)

Roussette · 05/05/2021 16:02

It's excellent news. Well done her.

Piers Morgan is having the inevitable meltdown obviously. He needs help.

Oh and... her book is no.12 on the Amazon bestseller list, and that's before publication.

Samcro · 05/05/2021 16:08

I wonder if Peter and Zara ever wish they had titles....
(just musing)

Roussette · 05/05/2021 16:11

I bet they're as happy as Larry that they don't. Best of both worlds.

FraiseRoyale · 05/05/2021 16:29

I have a feeling that Peter and Zara are fine with not having titles. But I hope that the sexism of it pisses them off just a little bit.

ajandjjmum · 05/05/2021 16:31

I think you're right. Their mother is absolutely no nonsense, and they seem happy with their lot.

Must be nice for Kate and Wills to have cousins they can be completely open with (if all is as it appears to me), as they do seem to get along well.

Marmaladeagain · 05/05/2021 16:52

Really can’t say I’m impressed Meghan going through the courts over a letter where she tells her father to bog off for good that he asks to be published.

I think it looks extremely petty and would be best to ignore it - like how the RF are ignoring her and Harry’s behaviour.

Deal with it in due course with actions, not through courts. It is ironic that it is revealed it was drafted for her first - quite funny the day she announces her book - a colleague drafts a private email to her own dad.

I think most people see it as confirmation of her controlling and hypocritical behaviour, just you seem to think it is a success . Strange way to measure success to look round at two families left in tatters and Meghan and her father are centre stage and two sides of one coin.

hip hooray

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 05/05/2021 16:54

On the birth certs of George, Charlotte, Louis and Archie, that were plastered all over the press, I think I recall seeing 'occupation of mother' as 'Princess of the United Kingdom'.

I'm guessing that MM won't be having that on the birth certificate of the new baby.

Anyway, it's all a bit smoke and mirrors. Is 'Princess of the United Kingdom' really an occupation? Or is it a title attained on marriage? Is it both? How can it be both for MM given the situation?

I think some clarity would be useful.

Lauren15 · 05/05/2021 16:55

He was definitely invited but didn’t receive a paper invitation. Tbh my dps didn’t get one for mine either but I think if I was marrying into the RF, they’d have wanted one!
It’s been said over and over on MN that it’s really odd that H had never met TM and that he was supposed to fly in just before the wedding. I honestly think it would be incredibly daunting to be involved in such an occasion without some preparation beforehand. MM may have not been on great terms with her df at that point perhaps but she had posted positive things about him on social media before that. He can’t have been that terrible. It’s entirely possible he did fake his illness or maybe not. I really don’t think though that H and M treated him very well in the period between engagement and wedding. Who on earth only meets their fiancée’s father a couple of days before the wedding? It’s not normal family behaviour.

smilesy · 05/05/2021 16:57

I’m also wondering if the palace has had a bit of a hand in this. Jason Knauf is now the Cambridge’s man and it would probably not be expedient to have him dragged through the courts over this. Similarly the Crown saying it has no claim over the copyright of the letter. ANL are not pleased that all this was not disclosed previously.

Marmaladeagain · 05/05/2021 16:58

TBF - they didn’t ask for proof of occupation when i registered births, don’t know if different now?!! Smileany of us could put self employed Princess etc... don’t see why not.

Marmaladeagain · 05/05/2021 17:03

Smilesy - are you able to expand about what you mean there ‘having a hand’ my brain cells are a bit lonely circling and not giving me any clues..

Viviennemary · 05/05/2021 17:11

Why didn't he get an invitation. There is a lot more to this. I expect we'll never know.

INeedtobealone · 05/05/2021 17:20

@Viviennemary

Why didn't he get an invitation. There is a lot more to this. I expect we'll never know.
I thought Thomas Markle's name was on the order of service?
Marmaladeagain · 05/05/2021 17:31

I expect it was assumed by all at the Palace that he was invited so would be on the order of ceremony etc

Whether he felt his daughter and Harry had invited him or even wanted him there may be the question - they should have visited him and prepared him - not planned to bring him over just 2 or 3 days before the service

(oh, just realised that was when their other romantic wedding was!) so all those rather unpleasant messages from Harry telling Thomas not to go to the press (Grin funny Harry) revealed in last court date were happening during their loved up private ceremony. Bliss and true romance and court cases for all.

smilesy · 05/05/2021 17:33

@Marmaladeagain it’s only a possibility. A bit like when the place suddenly “remembered” something during the Paul Burrell trial.

Marmaladeagain · 05/05/2021 17:37

Yes I see, sorry - just being lazy not thinking Smile

ExitChasedByABee · 05/05/2021 17:41

I had no idea Peter Phillips had a milk advert and the Queen is selling gin/beer. Or Meghan winning the court case which is great, but I’m pretty sure that wasn’t today? Didn’t she win the case already? I don’t really follow the royal news.

I have no issue with Meghan writing a book of QE2 or Peter selling milk or whatever.

Viviennemary · 05/05/2021 17:45

A royal wedding. Everything planned to the nth degree. 600 guests. And Thomas didn't get an invitation. Nah I don't buy it. Groom didnt meet him. I reckon he was told not to come. He was told he couldn't give a speech at the reception as is usual for father of the bride.

Lauren15 · 05/05/2021 17:55

@Viviennemary what you said about the speech rings a bell. As I got married in my dh’s home country, where speeches were not part of the customs, my df didn’t get to make a speech and he was a bit disappointed so I could relate to him when he said that. That’s why I remember it.

derxa · 05/05/2021 18:20

@Lauren15

He was definitely invited but didn’t receive a paper invitation. Tbh my dps didn’t get one for mine either but I think if I was marrying into the RF, they’d have wanted one! It’s been said over and over on MN that it’s really odd that H had never met TM and that he was supposed to fly in just before the wedding. I honestly think it would be incredibly daunting to be involved in such an occasion without some preparation beforehand. MM may have not been on great terms with her df at that point perhaps but she had posted positive things about him on social media before that. He can’t have been that terrible. It’s entirely possible he did fake his illness or maybe not. I really don’t think though that H and M treated him very well in the period between engagement and wedding. Who on earth only meets their fiancée’s father a couple of days before the wedding? It’s not normal family behaviour.
Yes I agree with all of this. The whole thing was outwith my ken. I wonder what Meghan said to Harry when he asked when he would meet her father. On a side note. I think Fergie's behaviour has been outrageous as far as money is concerned but she was very loyal to her parents despite their shenanigans. Her mother left her daughters to go a live in S America with Hector Barrantes and her father was a right old rogue who was always frequenting massage parlours. Meghan didn't understand that her father was just as worthy as any person at the wedding. He was an Emmy winner for a start. Such a shame.
Samcro · 05/05/2021 18:59

No one knows whta goes on behind closed doors. There seems to be an assumption that her dad is a victim, and she has treated him badly.
Just because at one time they were close.
His behaviour has shown him to not be a loving dad. So who knows what else he has done.

Frownette · 05/05/2021 19:06

@derxa I read something about a dalliance between PP and Sarah's mother before Queen.

I'd love to know how her mother and father get on now, well, because I'm human and curious.

JustLyra · 05/05/2021 19:08

[quote Frownette]@derxa I read something about a dalliance between PP and Sarah's mother before Queen.

I'd love to know how her mother and father get on now, well, because I'm human and curious.[/quote]
Sarah’s mother and father?

Her mother was killed in a pretty horrific accident in the 90s.

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