Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

@JaniieJones

'also don't understand why people keep slagging Meghan of for going NC with her abusive father'

Abusive? Isn't it well documented they had a good relationship until the wedding when he, like the Suxsexes have since done, blabbed to the media. He was supposed to be walking her down the aisle remember?! Then sadly had a heart attack, all evidenced by medical records.

They should put their efforts into shining lights on their disastrous relationships. 'Love always wins' they said. Unless related.. then it doesn't.

my mistake, I read somewhere that he threatened her with something like an interview every 30 days. must have dreamt it.

Interesting one JustLyra. Agree with you. There needs to be consistency and you talk of Harry & Andrew. Well... let's add Sarah to the list.

my mistake, I read somewhere that he threatened her with something like an interview every 30 days. must have dreamt it

No mistake, Samcro. That's what he did. I saw it in an interview. He would go to the press every 30 days if she didn't contact him.

@Roussette

Interesting one JustLyra. Agree with you. There needs to be consistency and you talk of Harry & Andrew. Well... let's add Sarah to the list.

Sarah is a totally different kettle of fish.

Firstly she doesn’t seem to use the York title anymore in her writing.

Secondly she’s a divorced woman who was told what title to use when she left. If they’d given her a decent divorce settlement then they could crib, but the bulk of her settlement was a trust fund for the two girls. Which is a lovely idea, but hardly puts food on the table.

Andrew and Harry are not the same as her. In fact, they’re not even the same as each other.

Oh! I googled to check, and the BRF have released a second announcement this morning, that the Queen is also releasing her own line of beers. (The announcement yesterday was over the Queen selling gin.)

Gosh it all makes It's a Royal Knockout look classy.

It’s a job title - modern monarchy will reflect reality. Being asked not to use a title is not an earth shattering idea....

However trading off the very thing you refer to in such a disparaging way - just plain ignorant and stupid. Time for a clear out and working royals with titles needs changing.

No-one wants to refer to Prince Andrew - as a Prince - hey, there is prior precedent - Formerly known as Prince can’t remember what Prince (singer) was calling himself ...

I think there is absolutely no chance that title removing will happen. It’s just a can of worms none of them will want to open.

Plus the Queen and Charles had the ideal opportunity to completely reform how titles work going forward when the primogeniture rules were changed.

They could have scrapped the 1917 LP’s and issued new ones restricting titles further. They didn’t. Not only did they not edit them to make it the eldest child of the eldest child of the POW who was automatically entitled, they didn’t change them at all.
They simply issued one off LP’s titling all of William’s children.

The chance was there. It wasn’t taken which clearly suggests there is no appetite for wholesale changes when it comes to titles.

Abusive? Isn't it well documented they had a good relationship until the wedding when he, like the Suxsexes have since done, blabbed to the media. He was supposed to be walking her down the aisle remember?! Then sadly had a heart attack, all evidenced by medical records.

There's a video of college-aged Meghan which someone sold to the tabloids where she says she's currently not on good terms/not on speaking terms with her dad. Clearly things have been bad for a while.

Of course Meghan was going to speak positively about her dad to the press, it's very hard to escape an enmeshed parental relationship and looking at all the stuff that's come out since, she was at the time trying desperately to get her dad to speak to her and to try to fix their relationship.

I still believe he faked the heart attack/heart surgery. He was papped walking around running errands, sipping a Frappucinno and buying McDonalds the same day he claimed to have had major heart surgery, and the hospital where he claimed to have been treated confirmed he'd never been a patient there. He gave the Daily Mail a piece of paper with "Markle, Thomas patient bill" written on it but there was no hospital letterhead or stamp on it or anything to confirm it's real.

'The point is though. as many pp have said, the Queen and the palace are not using their titles on merchandise whilst at the same time slagging off the monarchy'

This!

*Frappuccino, before anyone jumps on me over a typo.

I am hoping for further changes than have been announced - have to reflect mood of public is how they survive and no-one wants titles knocking about.

I support continuing with the monarchy and I don’t want anyone other than those in direct line to be referred to with titles. Children of someone in line have a title but don’t use it unless working on behalf of the RF. The title disappears in a generation - as with Anne’s family.

All titles to be for work - you don’t turn up to a private event introducing yourself by your work title, do you? so same with royal titles, if not working at RF then use family surname. That will have its own kudos anyhow for the ones trying to trade off it - Andrew, Harry and Meghan etc not like suddenly becoming Mr Smith.

Not sure why that sounds revolutionary.

'He was papped walking around running errands, sipping a Frappucinno and buying McDonalds the same day he claimed to have had major heart surgery, '

Wasn't it a stent? Which isn't major surgery but long haul travel not advised. Don't let overweight people hear you criticise his unhealthy diet. Maybe he can't help it and is addicted, you never know and mustn't tut.

'The point is though. as many pp have said, the Queen and the palace are not using their titles on merchandise whilst at the same time slagging off the monarchy'

Except the outrage and tabloid headlines about how Harry and Meghan might financially profit from their titles started a long time ago, long before the Oprah interview. The attitude was very much "it's an outrage for any royal to profit from being royal under any circumstances", which is clearly hypocritical.

And they have not "slagged off the monarchy." They had nothing but praise for the Queen. Plenty of other royals have done damaging and controversial TV interviews.

I still believe he faked the heart But why did he do that? How did it benefit him? Serious question.

Wasn't it a stent?

His claim is that it was two separate heart attacks + Congestive Heart Failure which resulted in him being in intensive care.

I doubt anyone would be running around sipping Fraps days after being in intensive care with heart failure.

"If Meghan's really such a terrible person, how come her haters feel the need to endlessly invent lies about her, sockpuppet to make it look like more people hate her than do, abuse and attack anyone who doesn't hate her, use troll tactics to get posts defending her deleted and banned"

You've surely got this the wrong way round?
It is Meghan's supporters who get posts deleted as "racist". Because their posts are obviously in her favour.
I was very enthusiastic about Meghan when she was first on the scene. Harry had found a girl-friend who would marry him. and we were always led to believe that he very much wanted a family. As an actress she seemed to take public appearances in her stride. All set fair.
Then things were leaked - didn't know whether to believe them at first. It became obvious she had her own agenda, and Harry was the junior partner. Sad that they were leaving - but their choice ultimately.

Now - the Oprah thing, Harry's miserable face (except when the baby announcement was made - the only time he looked delighted)
Too difficult to think well of her now. I don't hate her. I don't know how the whole thing will pan out in later years, but it doesn't auger well for H or the children.

I think & I say again - they can earn their own money - good luck to them - but don't do it off of the back of the RF when you have left. Stop using the RF as an advertising thing.

They could have done so many charitable things & have been comfortable - they decided not . Good luck to them but please don't be embarrassing - Am sure in the US it won't be like that - but just a thought

But why did he do that? How did it benefit him? Serious question.

Desire for sympathy? Attempt to manipulate his daughter into giving him money? Didn't want to attend the wedding due to embarrassment and needed an excuse?

Why did he tell any of the lies he told?

Go into any of the Stately Homes threads, faking medical woes is a very common tactic used by toxic relatives.

Going in for a stent but not allowed to eat McDonald’s 😂- it’s not on the recommended list, but - shaking head in disbelief ...

Now going on worldwide tv and saying things about the U.K and RF - we don’t need to look for spurious evidence of unedifying behaviour.

It was handed on a plate brimming with hypocrisy. That’s why they will be ridiculed. That won’t change, unfortunately for them.

@ohforarainyday. How is vaguely accusing someone in the family of racism not slagging off the monarchy? The Queen is head of the family and the “firm” so If you make accusations about the firm in general (racism, not showing Meghan the ropes, not sticking up for Meghan against the press and so on and son), you are obviously criticising the boss as it is their ultimate responsibility. The only reason they heaped praise on the Queen is because they know how deeply unpopular it would be to do otherwise. But you can’t criticise the monarchy without it reflecting on HM. And I as a a parent, would feel deeply upset if my grandson felt he had been let down by his father, my son, who is also part of the monarchy.

Thomas Markle didn't go to the wedding because he wasn't invited. He did not receive an invitation. Its quite simple underneath all the spin and counter spin.

Rainy - is that Meghan or her dad you are describing? It is genuinely hard to tell the difference

@Roussette

But Peter Phillips isn't a Prince nor a working royal, doesn't have a title and doesn't have any income from the Royal Family coffers. Big difference

Nor do H&M. They are not working royals and don't get an income from the 'royal family coffers'.

He is a Prince and they are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Those are titles.

Meghan has won the remainder of her lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday, how lovely for her. Judgement came through this afternoon.

It is Meghan's supporters who get posts deleted as "racist".

MNHQ doesn't delete posts for being racist unless in their opinion the posts actually are racist.

The fact so many Meghan haters post racism that's severe enough to result in a deletion/suspension/ban, then deny those posts are racist, just proves my point.

MNHQ have confirmed that a number of posters all made the same malicious false report (lying that a post quoted a deleted post when it did not) with the sole intention of silencing a Meghan-defender, in a case with clear racial motive. TNHQ admitted they'd been manipulated and decided to un-delete the post.

There's also the fact there are plenty of posts on the 'other' forum where Meghan haters freely discuss what tactics to use to get Meghan defenders deleted and banned, including bragging about making false reports and post shit like "hopefully gullible MNHQ will fall for it". (Direct verbatim quote.)

If you can find a single incident of a Meghan defender posting the same thing, or a single incident of MNHQ confirming that Meghan defenders abuse the report button, please post it.

'His claim is that it was two separate heart attacks + Congestive Heart Failure which resulted in him being in intensive care.'

Attention seeking behaviour, playing the victim and embellishing facts..