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I wonder if reconciliation is possible?

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sunnyblackwidow · 17/04/2021 20:20

With Prince Philip now gone, the queen not as robust as she once was and grieving her loss, Prince Charles looked distraught today, Harry with a new baby on the way, memories of Diana's funeral today....I wonder if now isn't the perfect time for them to just all get together show their love for each other and clear the air (perhaps without Meghan's presence as she seems to inflame things).

I think it'll be telling how long Harry chooses to stay in the UK before he returns to the US (a clear indication of whether he's willing to hang around for a little while to mend fences or rush back home to Meghan and Oprah and Gail) I really wish the best for them all, family is everything but I'm not holding my breath.

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Maggiesfarm · 23/04/2021 12:54

I don't think Meghan or Harry have done anything for which they need to apologise. I realise there is another side to all this and context is important but they just said it as it is from their view points. That is quite 'unroyal' of course but it's over. One would hope it cleared the air and that everyone has learned from it.

Speaking of them divorcing, I really hope that doesn't happen. I would like them to have a long and happy marriage; I think there was more chance of them splitting had they stayed in England. At the same time I've no doubt Harry misses England, his family and friends, and being over here recently will have made him realise that acutely.

Who knows? Nobody has a crystal ball. All we can do is wish them luck.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 23/04/2021 13:13

If they have told any lies about the royal family in the interview from their lips they should apologise of course
Only they and the Royal Family know the truth in this
It was all a bit vague with a lot of innuendo
I think it’s good they are abroad but happy people move forward
It all seems a bit festering which isnt particularly healthy for anyone
Sad all round really

Jacopo · 23/04/2021 13:16

None of the UK tabloids have published the Archie photo. I wonder why. Maybe the photographer is trying to sell it to the highest bidder, or maybe there’s a threat of them being sued?

PinkTonic · 23/04/2021 13:33

@Roussette

Lovely photo of Prince Louis on his birthday. He looks a very happy little boy off to nursery

It's a lovely photo, he's a smiley little boy. I bet the bike was his birthday present!

There's also a photo of Archie out there too. Not arranged to clash with the Louis photo, but obviously papped. He looks so much like Harry to me from what I remember of him as a baby.

What an awful coincidence to be papped the eve of the birthday; and now she’ll get bad press because some people will think it was deliberate. Anyway at least she doesn’t seem alarmed by it, she’s very clearly smiling behind the mask.
Ocsetldil · 23/04/2021 13:36

Shouldn’t Archie’s face be blanked out for privacy?

PinkTonic · 23/04/2021 13:49

@Ocsetldil

Shouldn’t Archie’s face be blanked out for privacy?
Legally in California yes, if there was no permission to publish.
MrsTreglowan · 23/04/2021 13:58

@oldwhyno

Meghan will never apologise so it seems unlikely. Once she has got bored of Harry though, and divorced him, he will be free to come back a broken man, and his family will help pick up the pieces.
Oh well how bloody nasty is expecting a divorce etc Grim and foul!
Lauren15 · 23/04/2021 14:11

It was all a bit vague with a lot of innuendo. Exactly. I thought there might be a bit of juicy gossip like ‘Andrew is an absolute arse who looked down his nose at MM’ (because I can imagine it). The most concrete bit of info was that Kate made M cry but not why. Even when O asked about the Wimbledon trip, M gave a vague answer. I’m not sure if they were afraid to say too much Hmm or there wasn’t much to say.

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ExitChasedByABee · 23/04/2021 14:57

If there is reconciliation, tabloids will still make a mountain out of a molehill. Not everyone watched Oprah interview or Philip’s funeral, I didn’t. But clearly many have and they were intent on finding holes in stories and analyzing body language. One poster even referred to a tabloid employing a lipreader and then took it to gospel that poor Harry was ignored Hmm Or why Harry and William were “separated” as though they cannot be civil without someone being placed in the middle. If I could have found the information so easily when the funeral plans were discussed, it’s clear as day others could too but they just believe what they hear. Also the very fact that the press could have found this information and instead of sharing inaccuracies just shows that not everything you read is actually true.

It’s also clear that Harry and Meghan had read tabloids a little too much. If your mental health is fragile, one can only imagine how it must feel reading untruths and misunderstandings in the tabloids added to the fact Harry still has issues with the press.

Ideally, even though the Royal Family do not openly address every single mistruth, they should have addressed at least once and for all, the way Meghan and Harry were being portrayed and any racist undercurrents should have been dealt with straightaway. It does beg the question, if they saw the beg the question that perhaps they didn’t see anything that was inherently racist? There were some posters on a few threads who are adamant that media reporting of Meghan was not racist, after all the Royal Family have a history of turning a blind eye to many things.

But Harry clearly got over his mistrust of CBS, which published pictures of Diana, when British press refrained from doing so, by doing an interview with Oprah on CBS. I do think Harry and Meghan are either not following advice and going off-piste or they are very ill-advised.

It’s clear that the tabloids will add more to the fire, it’s also clear that people read these things and even take The Crown to be some kind of accurate source of information. I really do think the Royal Family should have stepped in when rumours were spreading about Meghan. They could have just addressed the whole issue.

But I also didn’t like Harry and Meghan’s approach of leaking information left, right and center. Perhaps they feel like this is the only way to redress the balance? They had sit down interviews before but they do seem to mistime them a lot.

They have had the access to the best healthcare and are in contact with mental health experts, Harry can leverage a job at Disney for Meghan but can’t get the help she needs? But somehow it’s only the Royal Family to be blame for not asking enough or being supportive enough.

No one comes out of this smelling like roses. And to the poster who mentioned Kate sharing photos on her terms so that they have some privacy. This is not a “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch your back” policy but rather something a lot of celebrities actually do. Some celebrities share their photos, some give hints where they are so they can be papped, in exchange they maintain relevance in exchange for some of form of privacy. It’s pretty much an open secret that celebrities do this all the time. There are of course paparazzi who do hound certain celebrities, but it’s very naive to think some celebrities won’t have representatives or “friends” who leak locations or that other celebrities do not share photos on their terms.

ancientgran · 23/04/2021 15:03

@didofido So glad Archie's a "ginger Spencer" like his father. Maybe Meghan's colouring will ensure he doesn't get the pasty skin which often goes with it. Yes we get used to the comments about our pasty complexions, our unsightly freckles. We should all wear buckets over our heads really.

MrsTreglowan · 23/04/2021 15:06

I prefer redhead to the other word and no my skin is not pasty thanks plus there was no need to mention Meghan's colour was there

ancientgran · 23/04/2021 15:08

Is it racist to speculate about Archie's skin being pasty?

Ocsetldil · 23/04/2021 15:26

But it’s OK to mention Archie’s colour?

Ocsetldil · 23/04/2021 15:27

Or even Harry’s?

ancientgran · 23/04/2021 15:28

I don't think it is any better speculating about him being "pasty" than it is about him being dark.

Prejudice against red heads really is the only accepted colour prejudice. Tough on us redheads but what can we do?

ancientgran · 23/04/2021 15:29

Presumably Harry is OK as he isn't "pasty" is he?

MrsTreglowan · 23/04/2021 15:37

Any speculation about a toddler who is not yet 2 is grim!

gulliblestravels · 23/04/2021 15:43

She looks almost full term so must have got pregnant very quickly after her miscarriage in July.

Jacopo · 23/04/2021 15:53

Regarding The Crown, I recall they were filming an episode near Sandringham or somewhere, and Philip passed nearby. One of the crew called out “Will you be watching the series, sir?” “Don’t be so bloody ridiculous!” replied the Duke.
I will miss him.

PostcardofaBeautifulBeach · 23/04/2021 15:55

There a certain people in life that drama follows. Meghan Markle is one of them. I have known several. There is an existing dynamic - a friendship group, a family, a sports team, a work team which is running a long quite smoothly, the odd bump in the road but nothing major. Along comes the disrupter. They charm their way in. Build a strong relationship with a one or more key members of the group and then all hell breaks loose. Members of the group who previously got on well turn on each other. Drama follows.

Look at the way people are pitched against each other on this thread. Before Harry met Meghan I bet none of you would have been interested at all - let alone attacking each other in order to defend either the Sussexes or the Cambridges.

And before someone brings up Prince Andrew. Yes he is despicable and I think everyone would be united in that view.

Roussette · 23/04/2021 16:04

I'd like to think we aren't attacking each other Hmm but if we are, it's not Meghan's fault. Goodness me.

That is beyond ludicrous
It's not the Sussexes versus the Cambridges as far as I'm concerned. I loathe pitting one family against another, or one woman (Kate) against another (Meghan). The press do enough of that.
It's just different opinions. But plenty of subjects are polarising. Like the Royal family as a whole.
Like Boris Johnson. Like Brexit. It's just opinions and discussion on a forum.

Life would be boring if we all agreed on everything.

mermaidsariel · 23/04/2021 16:13

Can someone please tell me where to find these photos of Archie?

Roussette · 23/04/2021 16:16

As I said before, scroll up the thread, there is a link!

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