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What a wonderful man Prince Philip was

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AllThatIAmRoom101 · 17/04/2021 17:44

He really was a remarkable man and what a sad day it's been watching the funeral. Hearing all the stories about his life, I have laughed, cried and been somewhere in between. I know it's not really a discussion topic but I wanted to show my respect to His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. GOD BLESS YOU SIR

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SirusTheVirus · 18/04/2021 00:12

WTF is wrong with people?

Seriously, some posters on this thread make me ashamed to be a part of the human race!!

LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 00:17

@Foobydoo

Wow.

LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 00:19

@Foobydoo what you wrote is one of the most flagrantly scary things I have read on Mumsnet in a long time.

QueenOfTheDoubleWide · 18/04/2021 00:22

@Limalama

I met him in person as as part of my job and I can say my experience of him wasn't positive.

Funny how people get caught up in propaganda and hype, especially around funerals.

I know several people who have met him, some more than once, and all have said he was pleasant and interesting to talk and very charming. I have seen some lovely pictures from them too
LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 00:25

@PredominantlyPurple sorry for what you and your dad went through.

Foobydoo · 18/04/2021 00:26

[quote LaceyBetty]@Foobydoo what you wrote is one of the most flagrantly scary things I have read on Mumsnet in a long time. [/quote]
Please elaborate? I mean that genuinely.

PredominantlyPurple · 18/04/2021 00:29

I don't remember MN being as nasty as today. Absolutely horrible

I think it's quite predictable. So many of us have lost loved ones because emergency healthcare facilities are so stretched. We have lost loved ones who would have survived given half a chance. It's no wonder bitterness creeps in. The Royals have doctors in residence when an Important Royal is unwell in any way. It's unfair and unjust. And they have a right to be pissed off at the injustice.

wincarwoo · 18/04/2021 00:33

@thatwasme22

''Why would the OP post in sarcasm or have to be the queen or a family member to post what she feels is a fitting tribute to a man of 99 years of age''

maybe because the man is a stranger. Does she readong obituaries on the paper and sit crying over folk she never met? It is absurd people take celebrity deaths to heart.

The obituaries are often the best bit of the paper!
LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 00:35

@Foobydoo

My condolences to his loved ones, but I have no time for apologists based on his vintage.

Foobydoo · 18/04/2021 00:46

[quote LaceyBetty]@Foobydoo

My condolences to his loved ones, but I have no time for apologists based on his vintage. [/quote]
I completely understand and that is your perogative.
Perhaps it is because I am a historian and it is instilled in me to judge history the standards of the time not the present.
Those things regarding scientific racism did happen and they have shaped the viewpoints of society over the last few hundred years whether we like it or not.
However to say that what I wrote was 'flagrantly scarey' feels a little extreme after your explanation.

Bythemillpond · 18/04/2021 00:55

There are a lot of people born into wealth and privilege who turn to drink and drugs or are just a total waste of space to the world and their families.
I always found his mother fascinating. In the middle of the European royal families was a woman who owned nothing.

LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 01:09

@Foobydoo absolutely fine, but we don't need to use the word "wonderful" to describe this man as the OP did.

Whoarethewho · 18/04/2021 01:20

Totally agree op a proper decent man who spoke his mind but mainly supported the Queen in her important job. His Duke of Edinburgh award scheme was excellent and inspired many.

ZaraW · 18/04/2021 07:06

[quote Unsure33]@ZaraW

If you read the facts about him , he probably did more in say any 5 years of his life than you will achieve in a lifetime .

It’s not what life serves you and put in front of you , it’s what you do with it .[/quote]
OK that's your opinion not mine. We are allowed to disagree.

MadameTuffington · 18/04/2021 07:37

I think yesterday’s funeral was a beautiful spectacle - very English and very dignified - It celebrated Phillip’s military career and was a last hurrah for a certain generation - I am no fan of the Royals (unfair privilege, wealth gap, inequality) but watched the funeral with my 76 yr old Mum who is very much part of a generation that holds the Royals (and the Queen especially) in high esteem.

Phillip was probably a very stoic character - his Mother was a schizophrenic and he probably just had ‘to get on with it’. I’m sorry but he probably also had several affairs and let’s face it Andrew and Charles are both cut from that self entitled ‘I can do what the fuck I want with the women in my life’ cloth - Edward is a sweetie and seems to have a lovely family set up (as does William) - Harry is just a dick lead by his dick. I also think the Queen and Phillip were the best of friends and she will miss him as a companion. The Queen is a bloody powerhouse and I felt for her yesterday.

Phillip flew in by private helicopter and opened the big posh carehome I work in (the Queen is Patron of The Orders of St John who I work for) - he was lovely with the residents who had a collective euphoric breakdown in his presence - he laughed and joked with a colleague and then quipped ‘now get back to bloody work!’ - Fortunately she had a sense of humour and found it amusing - some might not have done!

I think we need a reset of the Monarchy when the Queen goes - I think properties should be sold off and all sorts - it all needs to be bloody modernised!

pollylocketpickedapocket · 18/04/2021 07:53

@PredominantlyPurple

and has been part of most of our lives for as long as we can remember

I am in my 6th decade and he has been absolutely no part of my life in any way, shape or form. Nothing. Zilch. Never been on my radar. Apart from maybe eating up a small amount of the tax I've been paying for my entire working life.

Not much, granted. But he got more from my family than we've had from his. It's sad when anybody dies. I respect that. I'm sad for his wife and children, of course. I am. Any funeral reminds me of losing my parents and sibling at comparably early ages. 68, 70 and 63.

None of them would have died so young if they'd had intensive and unlimited healthcare. Dad died because ambulance took 4 hours to attend his heart attack. Mother died because she lived in a damp prefab which exacerbated her asthma. Brother died from lack of local MH services. (self-inflicted)

So no, a man who lived to 99 with every luxury money can buy did not figure largely in any of our daily struggles.

How on earth is it anyone’s fault if they’re born into money? Do you expect them to hand it over to you?
MadameTuffington · 18/04/2021 08:11

She’s not claiming it’s ‘his fault’ she’s merely pointing out he will be irrelevant to people who aren’t super wealthy and don’t have the mental and practical cushioning that comes with that.

Roussette · 18/04/2021 13:02

@PredominantlyPurple
That is so sad for you, it must be really hard to come to terms with.
Flowers

Germolenequeen · 18/04/2021 13:14

My post got deleted too - seems no word of criticism is allowed - we should all be deifying him - revisionist history at it's worst 🤨

Alsohuman · 18/04/2021 13:30

@SirusTheVirus

WTF is wrong with people?

Seriously, some posters on this thread make me ashamed to be a part of the human race!!

Yep. Collectively MN certainly hasn’t covered itself in glory this weekend.
lorca · 18/04/2021 13:37

Yes he was rude and racist but that needs to be judged with the standards of his generation. - fucking hell, you do realise that we have a man, our Prime Minister who is as rude and racist as all fuck, and misogynist to boot, and he is 30 years younger than Prince Philip? Angry It is not 'of it's time', it's who they are.

I agree that the Pomp and Ceremony of yesterday was lovely; it's what we do best. Lots of gold, and flags, and singing and medals. Lovely. Doesn't mean he was a nice, lovely or wonderful man.

And as for the poster who 'burst into tears ' on hearing of the death of Capt Sir Tom - ffs what? A man you probably had not even heard of 12 months ago? A 100 year old man? (Just like the poster at the time who cries that he should have had many more years!'

LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 13:40

Yep. Collectively MN certainly hasn’t covered itself in glory this weekend.

Why? What's wrong with disagreeing they someone was "wonderful". The Op was started in AIBU.

Alsohuman · 18/04/2021 13:43

The Op was started in AIBU

Oh that’s all right then.

Emanchego · 18/04/2021 13:43

Gosh. Lots of bitter, unhappy and oh so subversive plebs on here 😴

LaceyBetty · 18/04/2021 13:44

@Alsohuman

The Op was started in AIBU

Oh that’s all right then.

Yes. It is. It's alright to not agree someone was wonderful anywhere actually.
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