Lady Colin Campbell says it was Princess Anne who made the comment

[BlackCatShadow]

There was a lot of speculation who made the comment after Harry and Meghan's Oprah interview.

She says it wasn't a racist comment. The family were concerned about Meghan in general and it has been twisted by Meghan and Harry.

I don't think Meghan and Harry are on Lady C's Christmas card list. 😲

lady C is nearly as bad as burrell "the rock".
at least he actually knew PD.
I can never work out why any one believes any thing they say.
@Cokie3 agree,

Did the other thread get deleted?

Lady Colin Campbell would say anything to anyone to earn a shilling or two. Must be hard up.

She will no more know who made the comment, than you or I.

I don't believe Princess Anne would say something so crass, frankly, she is not the type. Lady Colin is known for speculation and hyperbole; what she doesn't know she invents. I haven't spent hours speculating about this and we will never know for sure but my money is on Camilla. She is the only 'prominent' member of the royal family (by marriage), stupid enough.

Who cares anyway? It was said, shouldn't have been, definitely won't be said again.

Trouble is we don't know what was said or when it was said.

H said it was when they first got together (ie potential of having children one day - and long before they got married even).

M says in same Oprah show that it was asked about Archie while she was pregnant. Quite different circumstances and no information about what was actually said.

I think their attempt to create maximum confusion and throw accusations has worked tremendously well for them - everyone thinking it is someone close to the throne as we see above.

I note someone says they don't believe it's Anne and it is likely W or Charles etc - so suits some to believe that for sure.

If it was Anne - an outspoken aunt talking speculating along the idea of attention H may garner then it's a different conversation to that which M reported of someone very close to them saying it and about Archie.

So the confusion suits H&M - I do hope it comes out properly as the general washing of "racist" over a whole family from the known racist Harry is appalling.

It says that anyone not liking M or seeing her a particularly good fit for Royal life was accused of being racist.

When Princess Anne was asked about Meghan she said, "She has a lot of opinions". This was well before Mexit

@BlackCatShadow - what "comment"? If you are referring to "the comment" you must know what "the comment" is. What is it, please?

[quote AlfonsoTheTerrible]@BlackCatShadow - what "comment"? If you are referring to "the comment" you must know what "the comment" is. What is it, please?[/quote]
I have no idea!

But, apparently someone said something to someone at some time and it may or may not have been racist and/or anti-ginger, BUT, according to Lady Colin Campbell it was Princess Anne, so hopefully that clears everything up.

@Blackcatshadow - your heading refers to "the comment" (Lady Colin Campbell says it was Princess Anne who made the comment) and then again in your first post (There was a lot of speculation who made the comment after Harry and Meghan's Oprah interview), so there must be a specific comment you are referring to.

I'd love to know what "the comment" is. Please share.

[quote AlfonsoTheTerrible]@BlackCatShadow - what "comment"? If you are referring to "the comment" you must know what "the comment" is. What is it, please?[/quote]
The mysterious, unspecified comment alluded to by H&M in their Oprah interview, of course. How is that a point of (extra) confusion?

Are you being serious?

Ok, I'll bite. Meghan referred to conversations during her Oprah interview where someone in the Royal Family discussed how dark the skin of their baby would be. There has been a lot of speculation about who these conversations were with. Lady Colin Campbell has stated that it was Princess Anne who discussed the future baby of Harry and Meghan but she wasn't referring to the baby's skin color but to the character of the baby's mother.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

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Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . .  so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Oprah: What?

Meghan: And . . . 

Oprah: Who . . . who is having that conversation with you? What?

Meghan: So . . . 

Oprah: There is a conversation . . . hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right now.

Meghan: There were . . . there were several conversations about it.

Oprah: There’s a conversation with you . . ? 

Meghan: With Harry.

Oprah: About how dark your baby is going to be?

Meghan: Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.

Oprah: Whoo. And you’re not going to tell me who had the conversation?

Meghan: I think that would be very damaging to them.

Oprah: OK. So, how . . . how does one have that meeting?

There were conversations ...about no security, no title... and how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Meghan: That was relayed to me from Harry. Those were conversations that family had with him. And I think . . . 

Oprah: Whoa.

Meghan: It was really hard to be able to see those as compartmentalised conversations.

Oprah: Because they were concerned that if he were too brown, that that would be a problem? Are you saying that?

Meghan: I wasn’t able to follow up with why, but that — if that’s the assumption you’re making, I think that feels like a pretty safe one, which was really hard to understand, right? Especially when — look, I — the Commonwealth is a huge part of the monarchy, and I lived in Canada, which is a Commonwealth country, for seven years. But it wasn’t until Harry and I were together that we started to travel through the Commonwealth, I would say 60 per cent, 70 per cent of which is people of colour, right?

BuggerBognor, it depends how it is said. Context is all. I doubt Harry and Meghan would have been concerned if the comment was just wondering who any babies would look like.

Harry is far from thick, I would have thought that was obvious. He was a successful army officer for many years and would not have been so had he been 'thick'.

We are languishing clueless quite some way along a fact-mangling gossip chain - I am reminded of this illustration by Norman Rockwell.

I'm confused by the whole thing but I do think the introduction of a small vague tidbit by H&M and then the coy we-couldn't-possibly-say-who-said-it straight afterwards in the Oprah interview was a typical gossipmonger-ish ploy to whip up interest.

Oh jess that's funny, you mean like Harry is a successful "misinformation " warrior since last week's appointment.

Have you heard of being protected within a situation and nepotism and extra support in place. The army publicly spoke out before H joined to say they didn't think it was right place for him - after several episodes reported along with the Nazi uniform in the year of Holocaust victims visiting the Palace.

H then joined the army within the year, so I t think everyone knew why he was there - obviously pressure hoping it would make H more of a rounded person - then racism comments came out about P**i.

It seems people are either very young and don't remember the ongoing news at the time or potentially from the US and believe H's CV, without the events that led up to each situation in real life, not air brushed version US will unravel one day no doubt.

I didn't say Harry was MENSA material, I just said he wasn't thick. He isn't thick.

I agree. Harry is not thick. He might not be 'book-learning smart' but he is not thick.

He does seem to be an unreliable witness though. As does Meghan.

The army publicly spoke out before H joined to say they didn't think it was right place for him

Do you have a link for that? (genuine request, as I don't remember, and am interested - also it seems so unlikely that there would be an official statement of that sort)

Meghan was told of the comments by Harry when she was pregnant. She got pregnant right after the wedding. Iirc, Harry said the conversations with his family happened whilst the wedding was being organised. That's why Harry heard the comments before they married and Meghan whilst pregnant - she heard of them from Harry.

TBH I'm not sure what defence could be offered then - H said his army colleague thought it was a funny nickname being called P**i by Harry and wasn't offended etc

I wouldn't expect anyone with an iota of intelligence or character to go along with using a racial slur as a nickname. To not understand the power imbalance at play.

I wonder if this army colleague still finds being called P**i by friends to be funny? Or i

Most likely one day (if not by now) he will he realise when one of his kids comes home and says I'm called P**i by someone like Harry, he might realise it's really not very funny at all.

If we are now to believe the person saying this is bright enough to understand the above, then that's even more appalling, surely.

I can imagine Anne would say Harry is stupid" when most of us say "not very bright".

I think unless Meghan or Harry is prepared to say word for word what the comment was and ideally who said it there’s no point discussing it. Nobody knows what was said.

Meghan has shown herself time and time again to have a loose grip on reality and twist stuff, ie getting married three days before she did.

I can well believe Anne isn’t Meghan’s biggest fan. She doesn’t seem the sort to suffer fools gladly and I imagine Meghan coming racing in with her ideas of how to modernise the royal family when she’s married in rather than born to it, she’s only been there 5 mins didnt go down well.

phrased it badly, the army didn't make a public announcement - more at the time ex-army people were all over the news, MPs - everyone that had every touched base with the army said wasn't right place for Harry in general. It was talked about a good while before he joined whether he was suitable.

This is the type of article that was around for about two years as H made it known he wanted, but clearly they weren't dashing to have him and he went off for a gap year etc..

This article is just after the Nazi incident and at the time and every paper was saying he isn't officer material etc..

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/outrage-at-nazi-harry-7253087.html

The RF knows who said the comments, it's better coming from the person. They should be the ones to disclose.