Lady Colin Campbell says it was Princess Anne who made the comment

[BlackCatShadow]

There was a lot of speculation who made the comment after Harry and Meghan's Oprah interview.

She says it wasn't a racist comment. The family were concerned about Meghan in general and it has been twisted by Meghan and Harry.

I don't think Meghan and Harry are on Lady C's Christmas card list. 😲

"They never said they wanted a quiet life, they wanted a life where they had more control over their privacy."

So, what was with the passive aggressive jibes at his family all about then? Why was that necessary?
And where has it been proven that "the whole making Kate cry story that was leaked from royal sources?"

They want to control their privacy that is correct. However they want to do that whilst courting the press to promote the brand and not respecting anyone elses privacy. It is very unrealistic. Anyway Piers Morgan has now done an interview with fox news. So the drama continues because the 'friends' will be going nuts again. I am just hoping for more slip ups that have to be deleted because they don't tie into the new narrative. These people do way more harm than any British media to the pair. I would be livid about it😂

But Harry said they left the UK because he had to protect his family from the press. But then they are on an international talk show that they knew would be watched around the globe. What did they expect?

I wish Harry and Meghan would go and live a happy and obscure life. Why don't they just bugger off.

If they are so concerned about security,I find it a little puzzling that they would release a photo of themselves at a nearby beach, Harry is photographed riding a bike and then clearly a staged photo of him at the beach. So anyone with a long lens can find them..or a gun. Why would they move to a country where anyone can carry a gun? It’s all a bit of a puzzle.

They want a life on their terms, isn't that what most of us want, to life a live the way we can as much as possible

If I say I want life 'on my terms' that also means I have to live by my own resources. I can't say that and then keep phoning my family asking for money and trading off my family name to get jobs while telling anyone who listen that my family are terrible.

They might have been able to swing keeping their security had they remained in the UK, but costs multiplied when they elected to move abroad. I think it was reported that they needed/wanted round-the-clock teams on a fortnightly rota, and those teams needed regular flights back home to their families factored in to the funding. Also, wasn't there some sort of issue about Met officers not being licensed to carry guns in LA?

@ CallmeHendricks
You are correct - they expected to retain their Met protection but they would not be allowed to carry guns therefore of little use . The Met protected them whilst they were in Canada but it was totally ridiculous to expect that to continue.

Why is everyone banging on about taxpayer security when I was clearly talking about PC or HMQ ' stepping in', just as she did with Andrew?

They never said they wanted a quiet life, they wanted a life where they had more control over their privacy.

Anyone who still talks about this quiet life sounds really silly now. Not only did they give a list of who they will be talking to and who they would not (in other words, tabloids leave us alone), they also said the work will go on. They are talking to neutral papers who are not there to twist their words.

And the ppl who want them to disappear, it would be a good idea to let the tabloids know you don't want to hear about them, maybe they will leave them alone. They do not report on their good causes anyway.

In the meantime, H&M are now part of the Silicon Valley, so WSJ, Bloomsbury, Fortune mag etc. will carry on reporting on them.

@Mummy195 is HMQ paying for Andrew's security privately then?

I thought it had been completely removed

HM is paying privately for PA although he seems to be lying low is Windsor so can’t imagine it is too much ( not defending him by the way )
H and M moved to a different country and ceased being working royals so it was totally unreasonable to expect the taxpayer or RF to pay for 24/7 security.

@derxa

I wish Harry and Meghan would go and live a happy and obscure life. Why don't they just bugger off.

Amen to that.

Any one think the RF said No we won't pay your security outwith the UK.

But H&M though they were bluffing not really thinking they'd really stop paying for it? So made the move thinking they'd force the RF hand except the RF weren't bluffing and have stood firm.

I'm wondering if it just never occurred to Harry that there would be a difference in cost and even so, would he have cared? He had never really had to pay himself for anything in his life, so why would he have known?
And if anyone had brought it up, it could well have been dismissed by him as them trying to piss on his chips and stop him doing what he wanted.

I'm wondering if it just never occurred to Harry that there would be a difference in cost and even so, would he have cared? He had never really had to pay himself for anything in his life, so why would he have known?

I think that's right, he doesn't seem like the type who considers the consequences of his actions.

He did everything in a rush, not thinking anything through in my view. He knew M was going to go whatever, and take his child with her. He just panicked and ran.

It's weird when you read that article posted by a PP about Chelsy Davis and her complaining about how awful and invasive the press were. it seems quite insincere of harry to act like the press intrusion of Meghan is in some way unexpected. The press literally hounded his mother to death. I can't understand what he was thinking. Why he didn't prepare her better? None of it makes sense to me. I can't help but think there is something off about him. A lot of the so-called lies in her interview, I feel, stem from him. He seems shady.

@mermaidsariel

He did everything in a rush, not thinking anything through in my view. He knew M was going to go whatever, and take his child with her. He just panicked and ran.

That's what I think too. However it came about I think she drove the decision.

Anyone who wants to live life on their own terms needs to be able to pay for it with their own money. Most people can’t afford to have everything exactly the way they’d like it, so for most adults, life is a never-ending series of tradeoffs. If Harry and Meghan want to remain controversial public figures who live in 17-bedroom Hollywood mansion, but can’t afford the cost of all of those things while also paying for the security they believe is necessary for their children’s safety, then they’ll need to choose which they’d rather have. It’s telling that they’ve chosen luxury and celebrity over security. Keeping Archie safe is his parents’ responsibility, and if his security is inadequate because they've chosen to prioritize other things, they - not Charles - are to blame.

I think being a private person ( in the sense of not being part of the RF ) to everyone comes with a tradeoff for what you want to pay for and what you do not. Now if you are rich as Creossus then yes you can pay for everything but most people in very different degrees have to decide. I m sure Harry will learn this and I do wish them well - but the RF is not an institution which should just give out money for no return ( & I know many don't approve of / support the RF) So like it or not the RF works how it does. Until it goes I am surprised Harry did not get that. Or indeed Meghan.

Well I hope they are happy and best wishes to them. I can't blame Harry for taking a job but I think it is disingenuous to think they are not trading on their Royal connections.

Weren't they reported to have sent members of their security off to buy them coffees and pick up take aways when they had security funded by others? I can see that if they're going to take the piss like that others aren't going to want to pay for them. It's as if they don't actually care about their actual safety and just wan't to look and feel like big important people.

I've not heard tales of H&M them sending security officers for stuff but it wouldn't surprise me.
But there again I couldn't ever imagine the Queen standing in a Costa queue but then again in her younger days she was known to embrace the headscarf and do her own thing.

The privacy thing is really mental. Harry knows that there are rules / agreements in place, that the UK press will leave Royal children alone while they are in full-time education. The press get first day photo opportunities instead. Which in turn means there's no market for the paparazzi photos.

What privacy will Archie have at school in the US?
Just so much of what they have said doesn't make sense. Their story seems to have more holes than a pair of fish net tights.

www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/harry-and-meghans-security-staff-claim-theyre-being-sent-on-grocery-runs/RJH4ZGXTDWAOMPOTCDAXCS5PPM/

This link from back then has the police sent on errands claims and the security costs in Canada

Madness absolute Madness.

What's up with them doing their own shopping or get it delivered?

There is a bit of me thinks H has no clue how to run a house, he's never needed to but what's her excuse?