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Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

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porcelaine · 23/03/2021 14:47

Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

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CandyLeBonBon · 25/03/2021 23:05

@Blueberries0112

Sounds like some of you really want to abolish the royal family
Well it's not a TERRIBLE idea. I mean once Liz goes, it might be a good idea to start to dismantle a system the has caused social anguish, class divide and lack of equity to millions of commonwealth members?

Just a thought

ImpatiensI · 25/03/2021 23:14

@Blueberries0112

Sounds like some of you really want to abolish the royal family
A lot of people do but not enough to make it happen. They MUST change though, radically change.
RickiTarr · 25/03/2021 23:27

@Blueberries0112

Sounds like some of you really want to abolish the royal family
Yep. That’s why I said I wanted to abolish the Royal Family. Smile
Viviennemary · 25/03/2021 23:30

I'd vote to abolish them but doesn't look like that's going to happen any time soon. So I suppose we might as well have those who actually want to do the ribbon cutting without two much moaning.

merrymouse · 26/03/2021 06:42

They MUST change though, radically change.

How would they change? I don’t think any system based on inheritance can be modern.

Roussette · 26/03/2021 07:02

Until the House of Lords is abolished, nothing will change. That's where it starts. 798 of them, unsalaried but claiming an average of £31,000 per year in expenses
Hundreds of unelected unrepresented hereditary peers who make the laws in this country despite being completely and utterly undemocratic.
These people are there by virtue of their birth, their wealth or the fact they donate money or services to politicans. And all parties except Tories want reform of this into an elected Chamber like a Senate. They attend when they wish (mostly rarely), they never face re-election and are there till they die.
Only 26% are women, and less than 6% are ethnic minorities.

Until this unfair undemocratic system is dismantled, we will always have the Royal family in its present form.

Apologies for the rant... that feels better Grin

MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2021 07:26

I haven’t followed convo but on HoL I did reassess after recent amend on maternity bill

Lordamighty · 26/03/2021 08:26

Second chamber is essential to sometimes make the govt rethink poor legislation. Take a look at what’s happening in Scotland where they are passing nightmare legislation like the Hate Crimes bill & redefining the definition of women.

MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2021 08:27

Yes the inclusion of ‘mother’ was very important recently here

Roussette · 26/03/2021 08:30

I agree. A second Chamber is essential but it should be democratic and it isn't.

But I don't want to derail with that.

redspecial · 26/03/2021 08:44

gosh you must really hate your country (assuming your British, given you've policed the RF threads so intensely over the years).

what would you replace democracy with after you've 'dismantled' it? a religious state? anarcho-sydicalism? Is that you Vladimir?

if the name is any indication, perhaps something more in the French style, although they are a democracy too and you don't want that. Plus they've just jailed their former president for corruption, and don't seem to be doing so well with their minorities either (unless you'd be OK with a teacher beheading in Batley this week?)

After Brexit, sure lets plunge the place into decades of constitutional upheaval and crisis, where nothing else gets done while the various sides battle it out as to how the country should be 'dismantled' and what political philosophy should replace it, at a waste cost to the taxpayer that makes Brexit look like a child's pocket money.

Fewer than 100 hereditary peers remain in the HoL, most lords have previously worked in the public sector in various ways, minorities are in the minority because why would a minority in the population have anything other than a political minority too? Anyone can stand for election in this country, its very democratic, why would you want to 'dismantle' that? the RF will slim down with Charles, he's a reformer and has been saying this foe a long time. Its by no means perfect but no country is.

dismantle democracy. good idea.

*this is not a rant, but apologies if a bit garbled I haven't had coffee yet.

redspecial · 26/03/2021 08:47

sorry, that doesn't mean I don't think the HoL could do with more reform. They are handy for checks and balances when the commons makes an arse of things. I didn't make that clear in pp. coffee, you see.

derxa · 26/03/2021 08:53

@Lordamighty

Second chamber is essential to sometimes make the govt rethink poor legislation. Take a look at what’s happening in Scotland where they are passing nightmare legislation like the Hate Crimes bill & redefining the definition of women.
Exactly
merrymouse · 26/03/2021 09:06

what would you replace democracy with after you've 'dismantled' it? a religious state? anarcho-sydicalism? Is that you Vladimir?

I’m confused. Who is suggesting a replacement for democracy?

redspecial · 26/03/2021 09:13

Rouss did "until this undemocratic system is dismantled" unless when she said dismantle she didn't mean dismantle. I am of course assuming that if the current system is to be dismantled it would surely have to be replaced by something else.

merrymouse · 26/03/2021 09:22

She is talking about the House of Lords. You might or might not approve of the House of Lords, but it is not democratic.

It’s not unusual to change and reform institutions. We now elect police commissioners and mayors. Most hereditary peers were removed from the HoL.

MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2021 09:25

Given the quality of speeches from HoL recently on maternity bill compared with the elected at times - it gave me pause for thought on this. I thanked them by email, many did.

I understand the democracy point though

redspecial · 26/03/2021 09:31

then you didn't read my post merrymouse.

reform is reform.

"dismantle the undemocratic system" is something else. Unless by "undemocratic" a poster meant democratic, and by "dismantle" she didn't mean dismantle.

The HoL isn't perfect but entry is theoretically open to anyone these days. And yes warm feelings for them lately because of their speeches on the maternity bill.

Roussette · 26/03/2021 09:32

redspecial

How fucking dare you. Where have I said I want to dismantle democracy. Where? And you suggesting I hate my country and I'm OK with a beheading? You have gone too far.

I have said that the unelected HOUSE of LORDS is unfair. You gain a place in there by birth, by money or by donating or doing something for the Party in power.

Where have I said I want to dismantle the electoral system?

I have not. I have said in great detail in my post about the House of Lords being replaced by something like an elected Senate. All parties except the Tories now support its replacement by an elected Senate. Are they all Russians and hate their country too?

Yet you use my post to completely make up a load of lies. No, I am not French so no need to spout their politics at me. Nor Russian for that matter.
FFS.

An apology is in order. Doubt I'll get it.

Roussette · 26/03/2021 09:39

redspecial

I typed three paragraphs with facts and figures on the House of Lords.

I then said this
Until this unfair undemocratic system is dismantled

It is obvious I am referring to the House of Lords because that was all my post was about. I said this undemocratic system, the one I am talking about.

Your desire to score points and attack posters who don't agree with the hate of Harry & Meghan has meant you just post vile made up stuff about people like me.

redspecial · 26/03/2021 09:45

woah someone else hasn't had their coffee yet.

you said, quote "dismantle the undemocratic system" so OK get rid of the HoL and the RF while you are about it. What do you want in its place? Say what you mean and present your argument, we are not mind readers. you did this yesterday, use words that don't match your meaning then kick off when questioned.

I apologise for winding you up, though.

(you are sexy when you're angry)

merrymouse · 26/03/2021 09:52

The HoL isn't perfect but entry is theoretically open to anyone these days.

The House of Commons is open to anyone who can stump up the fee and gain enough votes within a constituency. All citizens living in a constituency over the age of 18 can vote, unless they are in prison. That is why that house is described as 'democratically elected'.

The House of Lords is an 'unelected' chamber and is not open to anyone.

Generally regular elections are regarded as being an essential part of a functioning democracy.

To be fair, some people would say that the fact that the HoL isn't democratic is one of its strengths, because members don't worry about having unpopular opinions. I'm just not understanding why you think it is democratic.

Roussette · 26/03/2021 09:53

I said dismantle this undemocratic system, i.e. the House of Lords. Just like the Greens want, just like Labour want, just like LibDems want.

I doubt those parties have presented an argument so don't ask me to.

An apology for winding me along with other sarky comments up is not an apology. At least when I was challenged yesterday, I gave a heartfelt apology and meant it and that was for something very minor. Not accusing someone of being a Russian, hating their country and being happy with teachers being beheaded.

My post is quite clear. Stop attacking me. And if you once more suggest such vile things about me as you have done in that post, I am going to take it up with MNHQ.

merrymouse · 26/03/2021 09:53

use words that don't match your meaning then kick off when questioned.

Pot. Kettle.

merrymouse · 26/03/2021 09:56

Although as far as I can see Rousette's posts seem clear.