Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

[Sprining]

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

@Blueberries0112

She didn’t say she didn’t know Harry or anything. She said she didn’t know what goes on day to day basis . I rewatched the interview . It basically like you have an idea what being a parent is like, but you realized what it is really like.

In past interviews she has claimed that though. Look at the interview before the wedding for a start

Where as a her friends mum was saying she had a Charles and Diana wedding video. Meghan was always watching it around her house.

One school friend says she was obsessed. Wanted to be Diana 2.0

None of this at the time before the wedding meant anything. However now that we have this car crash interview and situation. It does all point to the fact she is a strong woman that knows how to spin a story. Not a vulnerable individual like she portrays.

Complaints were filed against MM, the only fair and impartial way to investigate is via an independent third party.

“didn’t know much about him” is not the same as “i didn’t know who he is”

And a lot of women look up to Diana as a woman or public figures , they don’t really get into the monarchy level. My own big sister insist having her hair done like Diana in the 1980’s and she collected Diana dolls... but I know for a fact she barely know anything about prince Charles (she doesn’t collect any other royals figures) maybe later in life she know a thing or two about him during their divorce.

Presumably because nobody complained about them?

The press have been raising issues of Andrew's dodgy property dealings and excessive abuse of public funds for years - hence his nickname 'airmiles Andy'. Wonder how and why the palace manage to avoid investigating those claims?

Like a previous poster - I hope the bullying allegations look into Andrew's behaviour too, and staff come forward. (Though I thought they all had to sign non disclosure agreements).

Can't wait for the royals to be no more, but while we are stuck with them, there needs to be some evenness in how members are treated.

@Blueberries0112

Edward and Wallis stayed married

That was 80 years ago when people didn’t divorce at the drop of a hat. It’s a meaningless comparison.

@FlyingNorth

The timing is really off though. Why not wait until she delivers the royal baby?

Why not hold off on dropping allegations of racism until your 99 year old grandfather is out of hospital?

This.

Whatever the rights and wrongs, a 99 -year old is very unwell.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Are strong women not vulnerable then?

Talk about internalised misogyny!

@StoneofDestiny, yes, evenness in approach is important in public institutions in a democracy.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Actually I think the palace are very wrong in many many ways. However so are Harry and Meghan

In your opinion. Personally I don't give a fuck what they do.

The press have been raising issues of Andrew's dodgy property dealings and excessive abuse of public funds for years - hence his nickname 'airmiles Andy'. Wonder how and why the palace manage to avoid investigating those claims?

Handsy Andy, Air Miles Andy. And what was the whole deal behind SouthYork. It was sold to Kazakh billionaire for 3 million over the asking price, who was then subject to a money laundering investigation.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmums she’s a very opinionated person isn’t she? I don’t mean that in a judgemental way. My dd is very opinionated! It must have been very hard then being in the RF.

she’s a very opinionated person isn’t she?

A female with an opinion and the ability to speak it. Crikey - not good.

Kate will never offend as she has apparently no opinions on anything of any note, lobotomised by consent. A duller presentation of modern femininity it is harder to imagine.

Wallis is divorced, she doesn’t have issue with divorcing again and they would be happy she was gone anyhow

I believe Wallis did regret it - aren't there letters she wrote to her ex?

Yes I am aware of that. However I am curious as to how it got to The Times and the timing of this coming to light. The Palace also had the option of not.commenting and saying any complaint is an internal matter. Appointing external counsel is a significant.escalatiion. and I remain unclear why this very robust approach was not taken in other situations.

It's not really an escalation due to the potential for conflict of interest/bias of appointing someone working for the RF to front any investigation. Any internal investigation would likely be accused of either covering for Harry and Meghan if found in their favour or of racism/bias if found against them. At least this way the judgement reached would be at less risk of that.

@StoneofDestiny I literally said I have no problem with it - my dd is opinionated and I like that. Definitely boys at school have tried to silence her eg you’re so loud but I’ve taught her to ignore them. Regarding MM, my only comment was that she cannot have enjoyed not having an outlet for her thoughts etc. She’d had the Tig and another blog when an unknown actress. It would have been hard to give that up.

Reminds me of the Japanese guy on the olympics (?) committee who thought women were far too outspoken.

Thank fuck he had to step down. Maybe he can join the RF staff?

@Northofsomewhere

It's not really an escalation due to the potential for conflict of interest/bias of appointing someone working for the RF to front any investigation. Any internal investigation would likely be accused of either covering for Harry and Meghan if found in their favour or of racism/bias if found against them. At least this way the judgement reached would be at less risk of that.

I agree. Why the allegations came out now is a different question but any internal investigation would be a nightmare either way

If Rf is paying an internal or external investigator, the results will still likely be biased towards whomever is footing their fees.

That’s why we have acas and employment tribunals. If they want to make it public, why not go all the way?

And why not have Andrew’s conduct investigated by the Committee for Standards and Ethics in Public Life?

They examine whether public officials are adhering to the Nolan principles. Issues have been raised in the media about his conduct and potential abuse of position, and so RF must investigate publicly?

I think employees who were leant on to not complain - to not have a voice, to not say their truth - were probably pissed off that suddenly Meghan and Harry were going to have their "voices" and weren't going to be "silenced" by the Palace.
What is fine for one couple is equally fine for employees. What is being investigated is the due process of handling complaints of bullying with the Palace when the complaints are clearly about principals (ie senior royals).
For those posters who are really stupid, the Queen cannot appoint a body corporate to investigate allegations against Andrew - that is an entirely different type of investigation and nothing to do with this at all.

For those posters who are really stupid, the Queen cannot appoint a body corporate to investigate allegations against Andrew - that is an entirely different type of investigation and nothing to do with this at all

The allegations against Andrew are not just criminal right. He's been accused of bullying too. And if any of those involved come forward now, the palace will have to handle the case in exactly the same way.

Eh? Why can’t the Queen ask for an investigation into Andrew?