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Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:17

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

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Blueberries0112 · 15/03/2021 14:39

“Families like the Windors communicate with each other through lawyers/secretaries”

And press.

Paquerette · 15/03/2021 14:41

@StoneofDestiny

The Queen always spends Christmas at Sandringham, which isn't that big 😂😂😂 Sandringham has 775 rooms altogether, 52 royal and state bedrooms and 188 staff bedrooms (and 78 bathrooms).

Think they could have squeezed her in - if only to stop her humiliation in front of her kids. (Though I'm sure it's difficult to humiliate any of the Andrew/Fergie brigade)

It's Buckingham Palace that has 775 rooms etc, not Sandringham. When all of the royals stay at Sandringham, some have to stay in servants' quarters as there aren't enough bedrooms. That's why Kate and William didn't like to stay there before Anmer Hall was finished.
Sprining · 15/03/2021 14:49

Why would ex staff members get ‘pissed off’ hearing about the interview? Are they personally invested in what she says about the RF?

Surely if they are ‘pissed off ’ it would be at the Royal family for presumably not investigating earlier?

If they were ‘paid off’, that would carry a non-disclosure that they cannot later share their ‘pissed off ness’ with the press.

How did they manage to reach the press and get someone’s ear, and it just happened that a newspaper was willing to publish it without running it by the RF?

I was bullied (and provenly so) by a very well known employer. I’m sure if I tried to contact the media, a, they wouldn’t really care and b) if they did, they would definitely run it by my well known employer, who no doubt would have the pull strings to quash the story. C) I probably would have broken the terms if my contract with my previous employer d) I would be too worried about not getting employment elsewhere and what would I gain anyway?

So many questions...poor Rf had no choice but to investigate in this public way, eh? No complaints till date (not surprising, see my points above) but somehow for a meghan it is a different playing field Hmm

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Sprining · 15/03/2021 14:52

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Also the palace may be a little annoyed with the pair😂
Ah, so vindictive behaviour by an institution then, to publicly punish an individual. Nice!
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TatianaBis · 15/03/2021 14:54

The problem for the palace is that Prince Andrew has also been accused of bullying behaviour - regularly shouting at staff, making them cry etc.

They have already been accused of operating an 'uneven playing field' probing allegations against M but staying silent on A.

There's never apparently been any kind of internal investigation (as opposed to an external criminal investigation) of his inappropriate friendship with Epstein and his involvement in sex with a trafficked minor. And of course the structure of the palace - part family, part employee would make any such investigation tricky.

If Meghan is pursued, more people may come forward about Andrew, and not just about bullying. In which case a whole can of worms may be re-opened that may not be closable.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 14:55

I want Meghan to publish those emails to HR her friends talk about. Should be enlightening. Not exacts though. The whole lot with datesGrin

Charles has apparently mumbled to friends more is no doubt coming.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 14:57

I am wondering how much I can get paid by Meghan's PR. Does anyone know? 😜

PinkTonic · 15/03/2021 14:58

@Sprining

Because she did an interview, it is ok to bring the wrath of an institution down on her? A public institution at that?

We protect free speech without retaliation. If the bullying investigation is retaliation, which it seems to be, then it is really not on. And why make it public? Atleast h&M didn’t name individuals in public. It is coming across as crude and vindictive. Sure, as individuals the RF can be as petty as they want to and do all the tit-for-tat bickering they want.

But public institutions really should t engage in retaliation towards individuals just because they spoke up.

And that’s why it is such a mess between family and public institution

Oh for goodness sake, the wrath of an institution! Are you on her staff? I’ve been wondering that quite a lot over these past days.
Alsohuman · 15/03/2021 15:00

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

I am wondering how much I can get paid by Meghan's PR. Does anyone know? 😜
Ask @Sprining!
TatianaBis · 15/03/2021 15:03

Because she did an interview, it is ok to bring the wrath of an institution down on her? A public institution at that?

Well quite. We've seen this behaviour pattern before.

We've seen the institution ganging up on Diana, the tit for tat attacks, the competitive, petulant, petty briefing against etc.

It's really a toxic little place, and we would all be better off without them, newspapers and RF members included.

Sprining · 15/03/2021 15:03

😂 I have a job I love. Nothing to do with RF, past or present.

Are some of you in RF payroll then? Or even DM? 😃 Given how much you seem to parrot the official line

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Sprining · 15/03/2021 15:04

@TatianaBis

Because she did an interview, it is ok to bring the wrath of an institution down on her? A public institution at that?

Well quite. We've seen this behaviour pattern before.

We've seen the institution ganging up on Diana, the tit for tat attacks, the competitive, petulant, petty briefing against etc.

It's really a toxic little place, and we would all be better off without them, newspapers and RF members included.

Gosh yes!
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CallmeHendricks · 15/03/2021 15:11

I don't think it's the fact that she "did an interview" that is the problem. It's what she (they) said in that interview that is the issue.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 15:11

Actually I think the palace are very wrong in many many ways. However so are Harry and Meghan. Plus I am pissed of with the stupidity of it all. Of course she experienced racism here. Especially in the royal family but the couple are also planning untruthful about so many things.

I her blog written before Harry met her Meghan describes Kate as the pompous princess. Then writes that if she was a princess she would be a SheRa princess (like the old cartoon). Well it definitely turns out she got her wish. She isn't this push over in the interview at all.

Blueberries0112 · 15/03/2021 15:16

I love SheRa! I still have shera toys

Anyway, of course Meghan would choose SheRa. SheRa is all about being a strong woman and a feminist.

I mean even at 11 she was all about women’s rights:

www.today.com/popculture/fans-are-sharing-1993-clip-meghan-markle-ahead-tell-all-t210950

Alsohuman · 15/03/2021 15:47

There hasn’t been any “parroting”. There’s been a series of posters patiently explaining to you why the investigation has to happen and why it has to be independent. Unfortunately you don’t want to listen.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 15:54

[quote Blueberries0112]I love SheRa! I still have shera toys

Anyway, of course Meghan would choose SheRa. SheRa is all about being a strong woman and a feminist.

I mean even at 11 she was all about women’s rights:

www.today.com/popculture/fans-are-sharing-1993-clip-meghan-markle-ahead-tell-all-t210950[/quote]
I know she is a strong woman not a weak one

Lauren15 · 15/03/2021 15:59

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Actually I think the palace are very wrong in many many ways. However so are Harry and Meghan. Plus I am pissed of with the stupidity of it all. Of course she experienced racism here. Especially in the royal family but the couple are also planning untruthful about so many things.

I her blog written before Harry met her Meghan describes Kate as the pompous princess. Then writes that if she was a princess she would be a SheRa princess (like the old cartoon). Well it definitely turns out she got her wish. She isn't this push over in the interview at all.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum did she actually say that?
Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 16:05

@lauren15 Yep. Here is an extract from her old blog

“Little girls dream of being princesses. I, for one, was all about She-Ra, Princess of Power. For those of you unfamiliar with the ’80s cartoon reference, She-Ra is the twin sister of He-Man, and a sword-wielding royal rebel known for her strength.”

She also mentioned Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, adding, “We’re definitely not talking about Cinderella here. Grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy. Just look at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about Princess Kate.”

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 16:07

So all this I didn't know anything about Harry or the royal family before meeting him is crap

She wrote this extract years before

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 15/03/2021 16:08

School friends say she was obsessed

Blueberries0112 · 15/03/2021 16:12

She didn’t say she didn’t know Harry or anything. She said she didn’t know what goes on day to day basis . I rewatched the interview . It basically like you have an idea what being a parent is like, but you realized what it is really like.

workshy44 · 15/03/2021 16:20

I'd say in fairness to her a lot of it is cultural- the Americans work at a completely different pace and most of it was probably around wanting to get stuff done now now now as opposed to bullying
I don't think the palace have a vendetta against her, I think it was clear from the off they wanted to welcome her with open arms to avoid another Diana situation
Unfortunately I think Harry didn't warn her what she was in for and her place in the pecking order. I'd say she was baffled that someone who she probably thinks is v ordinary like kate is so popular and expected to be the next Diana. When that didn't happen, coupled with the press being absolutely vile to her she was off.
They have played all their cards now .. she is clearly very smart and you would have to wonder how long she will be interested in her not so smart husband. They have lost the royal connection.. the mystique and glammer that comes with being part of it and what their currency is built on. Preaching to the world will only get them so far without it. I'd say they have a few years MAX while people are still interested

ginghamstarfish · 15/03/2021 16:23

Good, they do have the right to defend themselves against this whiny pair of entitled layabouts and their lies.

Blueberries0112 · 15/03/2021 16:25

Edward and Wallis stayed married

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