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What were Harry and Meghan hoping to achieve?

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HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 09/03/2021 10:34

This is an honest question not a chance to bash anyone. I'm curious about why Harry and Meghan would do this and what the consequences could be. They must have realised the massive fall-out this would cause. This could be the end of Harry's relationship with his family. But for what? Sympathy? Increased profiles? Honesty?

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PresentingPercy · 10/03/2021 19:06

I think Oprah had no intention of grilling them as Paxman or Emily Maitliss would. She just cooed to them. Its very American and its rubbish at getting any real information because she did not remotely question them when inconsistencies cropped up. She just said "wow' a few times and "whaaaat!' etc. However this tyoe of trash is meat and drink in the USA but I am glad we have a healthy media who are far more insightful.

The mental health claims are problematic. If Harry truly believed she was in trouble, why did he not do anything? I have read she went the HR dept of the Palace. As she was not an employee, I cannot imagine why? I think this might not be true.

Many people have thoughts of ending their life when things get too much. Not for weeks and months, but at times when feelings are overwhelmed. People can be helped out of this. Harry could have helped her.

Social media is far more than the tabloid press. They barely exist in the USA where a lot of bile comes from. I don't think the Daily Mail even has 1 million readers! Lots of them are old anyway! So possibly not keyboard warriors.

NoMackerelInSwindon · 10/03/2021 19:07

Or, they could have flown Doria over who was, up until 2018, a social worker specialising in mental health to help her out.

Ah, Yes. Doria. A lovely woman who was nervous at the wedding. Visibly so. Whose hand Prince Charles spontaneously took into his own as an act of comfort and unification. Spontaneously because that is what he does.

I hope his second son has the same spontaneous love, but I now doubt it.

Snugglepiggy · 10/03/2021 19:08

That's my fear though.That all this exposure is just actually increasing the risk to them all.Harry talks incessantly about protecting his family but really the best way to do that would have been to genuinely take some time out.What a pressure to put yourself and your fragile wife under.

Gadzookery · 10/03/2021 19:09

@Snugglepiggy

That's my fear though.That all this exposure is just actually increasing the risk to them all.Harry talks incessantly about protecting his family but really the best way to do that would have been to genuinely take some time out.What a pressure to put yourself and your fragile wife under.
I agree. The interview was a bad idea.
VanillaIce · 10/03/2021 19:10

I have read she went the HR dept of the Palace. As she was not an employee, I cannot imagine why? I think this might not be true

This.

The HR dept thing was just weird. I mean, did she file a report with her line manager or something? Did she really walk around the administrative offices at KP looking for an HR Dept to report her depression?

Scubadivinginabox · 10/03/2021 19:11

Meghan wanted her big Diana victim confession interview. She wanted to be Diana 2.0 said her best friend, now ghosted. (Reported in The Telegraph today). Contrary to what Meghan said in the interview, she was obsessed with the Royal Family and had a well thumbed copy of Diana: My True Story on her shelves before she met Harry. Which is creepy when you think about it. Meghan isn't the victim in all of this. She's a class manipulator and will get what she wants no matter who she hurts in the process.

Mummy195 · 10/03/2021 19:12

@PowerhouseMamma

The heads together work meant harry must have more contacts for mental health help that I could shake a stick at.

Or, they could have flown Doria over who was, up until 2018, a social worker specialising in mental health to help her out.

So Doria does not have her own life. Just a puppet to be flown over whenever....................... how would you know that Doria said this is beyond just her, and has recommended a proper rehab as MM said she needed to go somewhere - and it looks like she was speaking to her allies about this.
Impatiens · 10/03/2021 19:12

@Gadzookery

so what's the acceptable level of death threats then?!
Quite. And such hypocrisy from this poster, castigating attacks on M then just brushing aside the same treatment of K.
BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/03/2021 19:12

But if the employees of the Palace, who are advising her and expected to protect her are not doing their job and it is resulting in her mental health deteriorating, then why not go them?

Mummy195 · 10/03/2021 19:13

@Snugglepiggy

That's my fear though.That all this exposure is just actually increasing the risk to them all.Harry talks incessantly about protecting his family but really the best way to do that would have been to genuinely take some time out.What a pressure to put yourself and your fragile wife under.
Has not helped so far, has instead made the vultures come out more on the weak prey.
SmellsLikeBacon · 10/03/2021 19:14

@PowerhouseMamma

I've just read reports that the Duchess of Cambridge has received over a million death threats in 48 hours following the broadcast of the interview.

Well done Harry, you must be so proud.

Sad With this interview he has made his own wife and dc as well as his brother's wife and children a target. What a twat.
Blueberries0112 · 10/03/2021 19:14

There’s death threats and there are people who cannot tolerate the idea that one day a black person can rule like Queen Elizabeth. So yes, it can put Meghan and her kids in great danger. They don’t want Royal family getting too comfortable.

PresentingPercy · 10/03/2021 19:17

It is also quite interesting to consider that she had mental health issues in the UK but not when she miscarried. For many people, grief is when you would rather be dead than the person who has died. She failed to mention her grief at losing a baby and how that affected her. Grief really hits you if it is a baby or younger person. I know she could have got help in the USA, but I truly beleive help was possible for her here too.

She courts publicity. It is needed to make money. Live quietly here and she would have got what she wanted. She would just need to do the odd appearance at events.

What will they now do about the statue of Diana unveiling in June? Could be frosty! Obviously no Meghan.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/03/2021 19:18

More than one royal correspondent referenced this, saying that the "leak" about MM making CC cry came from "an impeccable source" within the household

With too much of the media, I think you'll find that "a source" means something they've made up themselves ... and "an impeccable source" means something that was made up by someone else

On that basis I'd rather rely on Meghan's first hand account, were it not for the many inconsistencies so many have mentioned

NoMackerelInSwindon · 10/03/2021 19:18

@Puzzledandpissedoff

You can download their accounts online. They are transparent

Given the chicanery that goes on behind the scenes I'm not sure about the "transparent" bit, but you're right that accounts are published

If the money people have any sense, and if there's any variance from H&M's story, it could be a useful way to make this clear. As said I wouldn't necessarily take the accounts on trust either, but at least it would be a reasonably "neutral" way to answer back without actually being seen to do so

Well, look at them and don't be so judgmental until you have done and properly understood them.

You should take them on trust because they are audited. If I were to go through my life rejecting other people's roles and competencies then I would have trust issues.

The Duchies pay their way and the running costs of Prince Charles et al discharging their duties of which many charities benefit.

I do not see a single fat royal and because they only put the glad-rags on to promote public engagements there is plundering going on here.

Gadzookery · 10/03/2021 19:20

@Puzzledandpissedoff

More than one royal correspondent referenced this, saying that the "leak" about MM making CC cry came from "an impeccable source" within the household

With too much of the media, I think you'll find that "a source" means something they've made up themselves ... and "an impeccable source" means something that was made up by someone else

On that basis I'd rather rely on Meghan's first hand account, were it not for the many inconsistencies so many have mentioned

that's not correct @Puzzledandpissedoff. Journalists have to have impeccable sources, otherwise creditability is lost.
DioneTheDiabolist · 10/03/2021 19:20

With this interview he has made his own wife and dc as well as his brother's wife and children a target. What a twat.

What a load of victim blaming shite!Shock The cunty trolls issuing death threats are to blame here, no one else.Angry

Gadzookery · 10/03/2021 19:22

why can't people make their points without swearing?

scottsdc15 · 10/03/2021 19:22

Journalists fact check nowadays? Especially tabloid journalists?

Hilarious.

Blueberries0112 · 10/03/2021 19:22

“I have read she went the HR dept of the Palace”

My sister and I were just talking about it is better if you were not best friends with your in-laws. Research have shown marriage are stronger this way. I told my sister I am friendly with my in-law and I care about her and help her if I can but I don’t let her know my business. I can’t imagine being forced to let your in-laws know all your problems

Gadzookery · 10/03/2021 19:23

@scottsdc15

Journalists fact check nowadays? Especially tabloid journalists?

Hilarious.

A tabloid journalist is often not exclusively a tabloid journalist - they may also work for a broadsheet.

Yes, journos do fact check. Fact.

DioneTheDiabolist · 10/03/2021 19:24

Royal correspondents have only one job, to cover public royal duties and to receive palace leaks. A royal correspondent making shit up would not be a royal correspondent for long as the palace would simply cut them off.

Mummy195 · 10/03/2021 19:24

It is also quite interesting to consider that she had mental health issues in the UK but not when she miscarried.

Did she say she did not have any mh during her miscarriage ?

SmellsLikeBacon · 10/03/2021 19:28

Neither is learning these 30 hymns she mentioned as part of that 'nobody helped me' scene she played out Which hymns are 30 hymns and what is the significance?

AirBubbleMe · 10/03/2021 19:29

@Scubadivinginabox

Meghan wanted her big Diana victim confession interview. She wanted to be Diana 2.0 said her best friend, now ghosted. (Reported in The Telegraph today). Contrary to what Meghan said in the interview, she was obsessed with the Royal Family and had a well thumbed copy of Diana: My True Story on her shelves before she met Harry. Which is creepy when you think about it. Meghan isn't the victim in all of this. She's a class manipulator and will get what she wants no matter who she hurts in the process.
Do you have any idea how laughable that is? Pure fiction with a large dollop of spite.
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