What were Harry and Meghan hoping to achieve?

[HumousWhereTheHeartIs]

This is an honest question not a chance to bash anyone. I'm curious about why Harry and Meghan would do this and what the consequences could be. They must have realised the massive fall-out this would cause. This could be the end of Harry's relationship with his family. But for what? Sympathy? Increased profiles? Honesty?

Once the dust settles , what next ?They need a huge income so what happens when the Netflix and Spotify deals end ?

A terrible betrayal by H of his family. So shocking. No good will come of it for either H or M.

Possibly politics? MM may stand for governor of California? They are well regarded in the democratic establishment

They have loads of options and support in the US, now that they have found their feet

I dont understand her talking about having her passport, car keys (?) etc. taken away. I dont believe for one minute they'd be booking their own flights etc. Isn't that what they have staff for?

If she run for president, she probably get a lifetime of security from what I understand. Haha I am being silly so don’t take me seriously.

Even if they never gave back her things, she can easily replace her documents (not sure about losing your passports though, I have never traveled overseas to research this)

@HumousWhereTheHeartIs

They aren't naive. They knew this would have enormous implications. So why was it so important to have their say? It could be damaging beyond repair for Harry.

I love the way you've worded this OP that what THEY are hoping to achieve, like they've created all of this themselves. And this interview was that continuing... When it seems they are only responding to way they've been treated and want to have their say so can live their lives. They are showing their strong boundaries

The massive fallout was already there. They didn't cause that with the interview.

Why did she have to give her passport over?

I think it’ll be politics too. The “lived experience” of being a victim and surviving will play well, plus the USP of having a prince in tow. All good.

@DioneTheDiabolist

The interview was great and Piers Morgan resigned. I think we should send them a thank you card.

@Oldbutstillgotit

@ VintageDiamonds. No I don’t understand otherwise I wouldn’t have asked !! HM issued Letters Patent before George was born so that if he had been a girl , she would not be superseded by future brothers . Regardless of that why on earth would H and M want their DC to be HRH when they despise the institution so much ?

Beats me.

@Gadzookery

A terrible betrayal by H of his family. So shocking. No good will come of it for either H or M.

I disagree. Did you even listen to what he said? He has tried for years to muster support from his family and didn't receive it.

Are you aware of his history? That his mother was literally hounded to her violent death by paparazzi? That he was forced to walk behind her coffin in front of the world and is continually subjected to her death being rehashed very publicly?

It is clear as day that his family has not cared for him adequately, that he is severely traumatised and also genuinely terrified the same fate will befall his wife and child. The RF and Palace seem to be incredibly low in emotional intelligence. It's not rocket science to understand that a young family subjected to daily and public harassment will need a lot of support.

She's not tough enough for politics, you need the hide of a rhino.

@Airbubbleme

I am indeed aware of his history.

This is a tragic story on both sides. Unless you know H or his family personally you make some pretty presumptive statements about his family and his feelings.

This is about a middle aged man throwing a hand grenade into his family. It will not end well. The one most hurt will be H. For what it's worth, I think the RF will come out of this stronger.

Interested in the RF and prime minister argument versus President, prime minister.

The current Queen has so far kept herself aloof from politics though has been criticised for hosting Hoxha etc.

However the RF in the UK have 67m spent pa on last sums (mostly for upkeep of palaces which are the property of the nation)

The US president earns ?400,000 dollars? pa but has the upkeep of the various homes, staff, jets, security etc paid for by the US taxpayer. None are left out of pocket as they leave the White House.

The political spend on elections in the US goes to billions of dollars. Even amortized against the UK?US population that's a heck of a lot. There will be quid pro quos and pork barrel politics. I know this also happens in the UK.

And the Queen as opposed to a President stays above it all. She leaves the political decisions to the elected prime minister. This particular Queen has seen out 12 or more PMs but all she can do is advise and not dictate against the will of the people.

I stand to be corrected.

My main concern about what I've heard of the interview is Meghan's section on someone in the RF questioning the colour of her child while not naming names. That pollutes everyone unneccessarily.

And FWIW Archie could become a prince once his great grandma dies (you can't be a prince/princess unless your parent is king/queen eg Charles). It's then up to Harry and Meghan to decide if they want him to have the title which Meghan says she's not bothered about. Two lots of the current Queen's children (Princess Anne and Prince Edward) have chosen not to have their kids named as princes.

I agree some of the media was poisonous but mostly those who posted below the line. One of things I did agree with was their stance on being green being questioned when they used private jets. And why on earth did she jet to a baby shower in NY? She was much loved and did so much at Grenfell but seems to have not understood hypocrisy.

@torquewench

I dont understand her talking about having her passport, car keys (?) etc. taken away. I dont believe for one minute they'd be booking their own flights etc. Isn't that what they have staff for?

I don't get it either, Surely the cars will be valet parked and looked after. I can't imagine any of the Royals filling their own car up. Yes the Queen knows her way around an engine but I still can't see her rolling into BP to fill up.

Passports I'd think they'd be put in a safe. Just the same as you wouldn't leave it unlocked in a hotel. They'll be various staff in and out of Royal bedrooms daily. Making beds, hoovering etc.

They are picking up the pieces that the bs 'royal sources' have been feeding us non stop.

“@ VintageDiamonds.
No I don’t understand otherwise I wouldn’t have asked !!
HM issued Letters Patent before George was born so that if he had been a girl , she would not be superseded by future brothers .
Regardless of that why on earth would H and M want their DC to be HRH when they despise the institution so much“

Maybe she just didn’t want her children feel they are not good enough for Royal family . It’s one thing that you have a choice, it’s another if you are being denied.

My dad listed all his kids to the house we grew up in if the person who inherited it died before he died.... accept my sister. He told me he thought she didn’t want it before he died , but my sister was still hurt after reading the will even though the house didn’t go to any of us.

Accept = except sorry

@Impatiens

She's not tough enough for politics, you need the hide of a rhino.

Yes, you of course know her well

She has demonstrated initiative and results (eg. Suits, Netflix deals). She has strong support in the US among the high profile establishment. I think she is on her way up

@ AirBubbleMe

William went through the same tragedy . I think some people forget that.
Diana was killed as her driver was drunk and she wasn’t wearing a seat belt .

Typical for the non papped royals to now come out driving everywhere.

MM was obviously treated differently.

Or maybe she would have to go to the police station to produce her ID a few days after being stopped by police (who would probably have been tipped) then someone tips the rags that MM is at a police station. Out comes the ' she broke the law' stories.

Looking at how insidious the firm have been so far, would not put that above them.

[quote Gadzookery]@Airbubbleme

I am indeed aware of his history.

This is a tragic story on both sides. Unless you know H or his family personally you make some pretty presumptive statements about his family and his feelings.

This is about a middle aged man throwing a hand grenade into his family. It will not end well. The one most hurt will be H. For what it's worth, I think the RF will come out of this stronger.[/quote]
Again we disagree.

Again I find myself wondering whether you watched the interview.

H talked about his mother's fate and his fear for his family.

Life for H&M can only be better, it doesn't get any worse than being suicidal.

And the RF hasn't come out of this well. Nor the Palace. Nor the British Press.

Mark my words, M &H will be coming here on a state visit as President and First Gentleman and (probably) King William will have to grovel in her presence.

I just keep coming back to the fact that no one who loves them would really support this kind of chat show, I don't think it can be called an interview, it was an expose really.
Given Meghan's fragile mental health, suicidal thoughts less than two years ago, a miscarriage nine months ago, moving house four times in as many years this kind of stress, adrenaline, whatever it is, would not be good for either of them.
Why didn't they wait until after the baby was born? Or after the Diana statue was unveiled? Queens birthday? Because they might change their minds? Because Oprah wanted this done now?
I think they are advised by people with ££££££ in their eyes.
They had the eyes of the world on them and they could have swept the boards with their success story, and their joy and their love. But that doesn't do nearly as well for advertising revenue.
The only winner here is Oprah and the media who have dragged M and H and the RF through the mire.