Abolishing the Royal Family

[FeelthewrathofthesuperRad]

Anyone else in favour of it?

I’m not entirely sure what their purpose is either.

I mean Piers Morgan as U.K. President.
If we abolish the monarchy and become a republic he could win. I am being serious .

@PresentingPercy

Good god!!! If you don’t have a monarchy, you are potentially left with politicians. Politicians run the show when they are presidents. Macron, Biden etc. They represent their countries in everything. We haven’t wanted that. With the boundary changes, any movement of government to the left is difficult and no government here will get rid of the monarchy.

There are many different types of presidency, it's not one size fits all. US/French models are nothing to aspire to. Rep of Ireland, Germany or Italy have referee-style presidents who are elected, impartial and intervene when there's a crisis in govt.

@RubyViolet

I mean Piers Morgan as U.K. President. If we abolish the monarchy and become a republic he could win. I am being serious .

It wouldn't be surprising. After all, for all MN is a liberal bastion, Brexit passed, still has plenty of support, Tories have been in power for over 10 years and still have another 3 or so years on the clock . . . so as such I don't see the monarchy going anywhere. There's obviously quite a bit of support for such traditions and such no matter what MNers thinks.

Yes please. Don’t require salt mines though. Just a silent disappearance into obscurity.

No, I'm in support of the monarchy. I think they're doing the right thing by slimming down, though, especially since the Meghan and Harry disaster.

Willibald, l see it like you do.
With a population that has voted Tory and for Brexit a Republic would deliver more politics and political figures of this hue.

OK so I and many years younger Ds think a constitutional monarchy has its advantages. Yes rich and privileged & very much so - has been kept together by the Queen. If Charles can hold it together & William when older can - it serves a purpose.

If we abolished the monarchy then they could take money they could claim & fuck off without doing a hand's turn and then we have to vote for someone.

I may be wrong but I prefer a Prime Minister ( voted for ) and a head of state who can do the more diplomatic things. But I say that in the sense the Queen has done that very well by & large - Charles and William need to step up to that as and when the time comes.

I want to keep the monarchy. I value the traditions and history attached to it.

@Caesargeezer

I want to keep the monarchy. I value the traditions and history attached to it.

Beheadings, wife-killings, murder, sexism, secrecy, land grabs, imperialism, subjugation of the plebs, flaunting unnecessary wealth, nepotism...Of course, what's not to like?

State of this fucking country.

No. The continuity, stability and independence of the role is useful, and the alternative of an elected head of state takes us into the very fake and corrupt political world even deeper than we are already.
It's a shame this isn't in AIBU with a vote option to show overview of responses.

No. Not in favour.

@DoubleTweenQueen

No. The continuity, stability and independence of the role is useful, and the alternative of an elected head of state takes us into the very fake and corrupt political world even deeper than we are already. It's a shame this isn't in AIBU with a vote option to show overview of responses.

Done. In AIBU.

Most leaders in most countries have historically done the same. Or tried to. If people hate this country so much, there’s a whole world out there. However the vast majority are reasonably happy with the status quo and don’t want wholesale change. Just some change and modernisation.

Modernisation and slimming down as the next chapter, I am all in favour for. (And Prince Andrew cooperating actively with the US criminal investigation, 120%, in case it comes up)

Beheadings, wife-killings, murder, sexism, secrecy, land grabs, imperialism, subjugation of the plebs, flaunting unnecessary wealth, nepotism...Of course, what's not to like?

State of this fucking country

Indeed.

France and Russia had the right idea when it comes to dealing with parasites.

I am well aware of the nature of how the monarchy and parliament works.

Then please explain why an unelected monarchy is 'safer'.

That’s why it’s easier to keep our history with a constitutional monarch. They are separate from politics

Unless you have a time machine history isn't going to change.

It's already been demonstrated the royals are not above politics or meddling in them.

Modernisation and slimming down as the next chapter

No chance of that all the time their plush financial cushioning is enshrined in law:

www.taxpayersalliance.com/the_sovereign_grant_needs_a_reality_check

wife-killings, murder, sexism, secrecy, land grabs, imperialism, subjugation of the plebs, flaunting unnecessary wealth, nepotism...Of course, what's not to like?
This.
Add it this list: overriding parliamentary laws, keeping and protecting paedophiles in their circles, accepting gifts from corrupt rulers from around the world, not setting any examples of hard work, etc etc.

What happened in many countries with all rulers, historically, is hardly something unique to our RF. Who can yet say what Andrew did, exactly? We wait to see. Being a paedophile is a strong assertion but not yet proven. That’s a bit tabloid journalism.

The reason it’s safer to stay with the RF is all about stability. We have seen when populism takes hold, anywhere, it leads to rifts and destabilisation. Farage has been an example. We are better off retaining people who know the job. Mostly understand it snd are not openly political. I disliked Charles’s letters but overall I don’t want any of the people named in a previous post. None. There is no need for any seismic eruptions in this country and abolishing the monarchy would be the biggest crisis. Ever. So it’s not going to happen. I’d just get used to it. If s time is desperately unhappy there are other places to live that might make you happier. It’s perfectly ok for anyone to say the uk isn’t for them but few places are any better!

Persimmon tree I’ll try not to swear in response to your comment. What is your alternative? A president? I can’t see how that’s preferable. I do value tradition, yes, would you have us throw them all away? Wife killing and beheading certainly aren’t unique to monarchy.

@Caesargeezer

Persimmon tree I’ll try not to swear in response to your comment. What is your alternative? A president? I can’t see how that’s preferable. I do value tradition, yes, would you have us throw them all away? Wife killing and beheading certainly aren’t unique to monarchy.

Well fucking done for not swearing at my post! OBE candidate.

So basically, among the many reasons listed by many other posters which I CBA to relist and which you apparently CBA to read either, a president is preferable because if he, she or they did engage in beheadings or wife/husband-beatings, they'd be removed from office and thrown in prison.

Whereas queen & family can, by our medieval laws, do whatever they like and never be investigated. Hence Andrew can interfere with vulnerable exploited teens and visit weapons traffickers at taxpayers' expense and we still have to call him HRH. Because Liz said so.

It's all fine because...

😂 wow.

And who has committed beheadings ? Would that be Henry Viii? You might have missed a little episode of history that was the English Civil War, resulting in the beheading of Charles I and the separation of King and Parliament.

Debate is good but it’s exasperating when arguments are put forward by those who are wilfully ignorant. In the language of the moment: “Educate yourself!!”

@IrmaFayLear

And who has committed beheadings ? Would that be Henry Viii? You might have missed a little episode of history that was the English Civil War, resulting in the beheading of Charles I and the separation of King and Parliament.

Debate is good but it’s exasperating when arguments are put forward by those who are wilfully ignorant. In the language of the moment: “Educate yourself!!”

Absolutely.

@IrmaFayLear

It's almost like one or DC could study let's say "history " for example.

refer to higher level education topic for options.