Harry & Meghan - to hope the Royals answer back?

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I think the allegations in the Oprah interview are serious enough that protocol should be breached and the Royals should have a voice to give their side too.

@Maybe83

I would love them to put out a statement.

I live in a Republic so no undivided loyalty to the monarchy but I think H & M are vile. I think they are come across incredibly entitled, very damaged, manipulative people.

I don't have any sympathy for them and think they should now give up their titles and have absolutely nothing to do with a family and institution they despise so much. You know so they can't make money of the back of said institution they hate and should now focus on their energy on coming up with more meaningful rubbish to spout out publicly for the rest of human kind to learn from.

I think their need to be heard and their living in a prison narrative is completely insulting to your know the billions of people around the world with actual problems.

They are completely and utterly tone deaf to their privilege and if he was my brother or son I would want fuck all to do with him.

Absolutely this. How dare they complain about their lot in life when they are the most privileged couple on the world? Harry will rue the day he met her.

I'd have had more interest in their story had Harry been the one talking for 2 hours, and Meghan joined him for 15 minutes at the end.

After all, he's the member of the Royal Family that has turned his back on his family.

But this was the Meghan show.

What I don't understand is why Harry passed on this conversation to Meghan. If my in-laws or any of my husband's friends had said something so shocking to him about our soon to be born child, I know for definite he would not tell me about it.
He was shocked, knew Meghan would be severely upset by it, why did he not protect her from it and just cut off contact with said racist?

Exactly my thoughts. Someone in his family makes an inappropriate comment to him about their child, very highly inappropriate and racist possibly, and he goes and tells his wife this? He knows this is going to hurt her because it's about their child but doesn't think oh I might keep this particular comment to myself?

I'm also confused at which point this was supposed to have happened, or if it happened multiple times because I could've sworn Harry said it was at the very beginning of their relationship but then it ended up being when MM was pregnant. If it happened more than once then that is certainly even more damaging an allegation to throw out there. None of this was ever said to MM this is all what was allegedly said to Harry and then Haz being the Prince he is, went and told his wife something he knew would upset her greatly when he could've just kept it to himself.

This all feels just so unnecessary and going to hurt everyone, and I think this is all about revenge on Charles tbh for cutting him off and not giving him enough emotional support.

Meant to bold/quote the top paragraph, sorry been a while since I've been here.

@Carolina24

As Prince Andrew has comfortably demonstrated, they don’t come out of it well when they set about trying to defend their behaviour. What are they going to do, claim they weren’t being racist when they asked how dark the baby was going to be? Pretend that they had Meghan’s best interests at heart when they took her passport and told her she had to stay at home all the time?

The best they can do is reach out with extensive apologies and try to achieve some kind of reconciliation before it’s too late for all of them.

I thought they always took things like their passports and driving licenses. They are hugely sensitive documents and need to be kept very very safe.

As shown by the trip to NY for her baby shower it's not like she didn't have access to it.

In The Queen doesn't The Queen even say to Tony Blair that they take your passport off you and then send you all over the world?

I think the timing of the interview is strange too. Knowing the media and attention this would attract why would you do it when pregnant having previously miscarried? Not to mention Harry's grandfather is severely ill and the whole world are experiencing an pandemic.

Twizbe that makes a huge amount of sense, but its just not as good a story is it!

@RainingBatsAndFrogs

It is, of course, possible to discuss a baby’s skin colour without it being racist.

But it is also possible to do it in a way that is racist.

I expect M would know the difference.

She wasn't there for the conversation, so it would be difficult for her to tell, surely?

@PheasantPlucker1

Twizbe that makes a huge amount of sense, but its just not as good a story is it!

I got the sense that a lot of it was what fitted with their narrative.

I really think Harry is at fault for not properly warning Megan about royal life. Really stressing to her that life would change and she needed to listen to the courtiers who essentially have a lot more royal experience that she does.

At the same time though, a 37 year old famous woman might not take well to being told how to be this brand of famous.

To much he said she said , if your going to make such a serious allegation then you should name them As surely hiding them is doing know favours , This may gain them the popularity in the usa they want but I think bridges are burned in the uk for some time.
Lots of small things didn't add up either ,

The cutting off remark is strange as well if your no longer a working royal you won't get the money that comes with tHat? Or id implying he was being given other money that was stopped ?
There was quite a lot left to interpretation but I can't see how anyone on either side can say exactly what was said and what wasn't unless you were there on one side admits it , its all one word against the other unless there is proof or admission of guilt

The thing I really want to see bottomed out is the security for Archie.

Meghan seemed to me to be saying that because he wasn't made a prince, he would not be entitled to any protection, ever, from birth.

I find that unfathomable. That would mean that if he was out with his parents, he would de facto be protected because the security guys would be along to protect them, but that if the nanny took him for a walk, the security guards would stay at home. Ditto, if H&M went up to London for an event, the security detail would go with them, and the baby be left with just household people and no protection.

I find that unbelievable ( and unforgiveable).

Surely what she meant is that the baby would receive protection as long as he was part of their household/a minor but not once he'd grown up? I think that's what happened with Beatrice and Eugenie though PA elected to pay for it at that point.

As well as the money from Diana, Harry had a settlement from the old Earl Spencer. I remember him saying that he was going to settle money on Harry as William would always be provided for. I also understood that he inherited money from the Queen Mother. With all this plus the interest earned on Diana's money since her death I would think it is substantially more than £10 million.

What is said in the privacy of a family should stay in the family, the context of the alleged conversation is not known - it is a private matter。

Never complain, never explain. I don't blame them. I have no particular feelings on any of it (apart from coming on to this thread!), but I would like a BBC Fact Checker on H&M's assertions

she married in to 'the firm' without knowing what it was like?? come on....

OK our gutter press is AWFUL (readers of it need to take responsibility here too), they were probably were racist, probably still are. I didn't follow it but from what I've heard....

She felt houded out and that's shit. The rest of the RF can take it, she can't. so they walk.

What is the actual point of the interview? Do they expect to change those RF repressed stuffed shirts?

I guess it's about their future brand.

So the baby skin colour remark was made before they married.

I'm not sure how much benefit it would bring.

If you think she is genuine then absolutely nothing they can say would change you mind.

Me on the other hand.......

@Buddywoo

As well as the money from Diana, Harry had a settlement from the old Earl Spencer. I remember him saying that he was going to settle money on Harry as William would always be provided for. I also understood that he inherited money from the Queen Mother. With all this plus the interest earned on Diana's money since her death I would think it is substantially more than £10 million.

The life they think they are entitled to lead would not really be possible my on the 10's of millions he has.

The life they think they are entitled to lead would not really be possible my on the 10's of millions he has.

27/7 day and night watch team of security to cover Harry, Meghan and the kids would soak that up in no time.

The other option is rolling the dice on an abduction and/or terror killing.

Harry is supposed to be worth 38 million, or was before the split. Meghan five at the point of her marriage, they could afford their security for awhile. Their security is supposed to cost in the region of 4 million a year.

However they are right, they needed to earn money to pay for it for the rest of their lives. Substantial money, but they could definitely have covered two or three years easily.

I really think Harry is at fault for not properly warning Megan about royal life. Really stressing to her that life would change

I agree with this. You would have thought Harry would have learned from Diana's experience - it was a culture shock she found almost impossible to cope with even though she'd been mixing in royal social circles ever since she was a child, and it had a serious impact on Diana's mental health. How much worse for someone who is not an aristocrat, not even British, to be plunged into the ridiculous archaic pantomime that is the Royal Family!

27/7 day and night watch team of security to cover Harry, Meghan and the kids would soak that up in no time.

The other option is rolling the dice on an abduction and/or terror killing.

They chose to go to USA. The Queen is not Head of state and its unlikely that Royal Protection Officers would be allowed to operate in the way that they need to.

Harry would have known all of that or it would at least have been explained to him.

He claims the security got removed when he wasbin Canada, but is that the case? Or was it when he announced he was moving to LA.

Why should the British taxpayer or his daddy pick up the bill?

@nevertrustaherdofcows but apart from
Williams kids as heirs , do any other the other great grandchildren get security ?
Its all needs clarifying

However they are right, they needed to earn money to pay for it for the rest of their lives. Substantial money, but they could definitely have covered two or three years easily

I think this depends on the life they chose to live. If they remain out of the limelight (properly, not stepping down from royal duties and doing Oprah interviews) then no one will care who they are in a few years time.

I’ve just been reading about the remarks Harry made about the similarities between theirs and Charles and Diana’s tours of Australia. I reckon he’s been watching Tom much of The Crown!