Harry and Meghan - everyone still being respectful please

[Oldbutstillgotit]

Lots still to talk about .

I love Meghan even before she was with Harry. Suit was my all time favorite because of her and two other actors.

There is a model who works in a fashion company , but the fashion company is funded by a multimedia company- maybe by FOXnews - to keep it going. The fashion company promised to catered FOXnews even if FOXnews turn their back and criticize the model. Yet the model HAVE to let them interview her even if they called her a nasty woman. Because that is the deal and that’s where she is getting the money. So the model decided enough, she will pick her own media and handle her own business.

Is this what Harry and Meghan are trying to do?

@Crispsginchoc

Surely if they really had no involvement with Finding Freedom, they would sue. As they have done with every other tiny incident. The fact they haven’t speaks volumes. Imo.

Not necessarily. The Daily Beast currently has two articles claiming that aristos have been saying that William has had an affair and that it is an open secret. He has had articles removed from other publications, but hasn't done anything to them. That doesn't mean that William has had an affair!

Every royal book (or ideed any non royal biography) will have real bits, false bits, embellished bits, creative license. That's always been the case in publishing.

I also think that they believe that Omid has largely been fair to them in articles and tweets and so he would be an unlikely person to sue.

@froggygoneacourting

I agree with a pp that MN should keep a log of complainers so that they can see if a particular poster (including name changes) is repeatedly reporting posts unnecessarily or malevolently.

I completely agree. I received an email from MNHQ just yesterday, telling me that they'd reinstated a deleted post of mine from the last thread (detailing my experiences in the entertainment industry and my experiences working with Netflix), and confirming that it had been reported maliciously and falsely.

This is not the first time they've confirmed that my posts defending Meghan are being subject to malicious mass-false reporting.

I was also happy to see MNHQ post confirming that one of the Meghan bashers who was engaging in personal abuse of me and other posters, was a banned troll pretending to be a new poster.

Certain posters on the 'banned' forum have openly bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ via malicious abuse of the report system.

Really glad someone else agrees that it's a problem.

How wonderful that @MNHQ reinstated your post, if was indeed mistakenly deleted and broke no talk guidelines.

I am sure that as they have now clearly reflected on their inconsistent approach to moderation, they will be more than happy to also reinstate many other balanced posts. Perhaps beginning with reinstating @NoFoxToGive's post.

How about it, @MNHQ?

I honestly do not believe it has anything to do with anyone’s family, not Harry’s , not Meghan’s . It’s all related to the media they are struggling with.

EastonSarah The Daily Beast? Never heard of it. Is it like Blind Gossip and CDAN?

Finding Freedom was purported to be H&M’s way of “getting the truth out there and their side of the story”.

I think we all really know why they wouldn’t sue Omid He is clearly H&M’s mouthpiece and they were involved in the book.

@Flube Perhaps they could also look into reinstating NoFox’s account as well!

@froggygoneacourting

I agree with a pp that MN should keep a log of complainers so that they can see if a particular poster (including name changes) is repeatedly reporting posts unnecessarily or malevolently.

I completely agree. I received an email from MNHQ just yesterday, telling me that they'd reinstated a deleted post of mine from the last thread (detailing my experiences in the entertainment industry and my experiences working with Netflix), and confirming that it had been reported maliciously and falsely.

This is not the first time they've confirmed that my posts defending Meghan are being subject to malicious mass-false reporting.

I was also happy to see MNHQ post confirming that one of the Meghan bashers who was engaging in personal abuse of me and other posters, was a banned troll pretending to be a new poster.

Certain posters on the 'banned' forum have openly bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ via malicious abuse of the report system.

Really glad someone else agrees that it's a problem.

What "banned forum"?

[quote SunbathingDragon]**@Flube* Perhaps they could also look into reinstating NoFox’s* account as well![/quote]
Surely this can't be true @MNHQ? I mean I was very surprised to see that @NoFoxToGive's post had been deleted and a link to TG, because from what I read, the TGs hadn't been broken.

We know that you like to do a thorough job, and reinstate posts, that were incorrectly deleted. So we can expect to see @NoFoxToGive's post and account reinstated?

@froggygoneacourting

I agree with a pp that MN should keep a log of complainers so that they can see if a particular poster (including name changes) is repeatedly reporting posts unnecessarily or malevolently.

I completely agree. I received an email from MNHQ just yesterday, telling me that they'd reinstated a deleted post of mine from the last thread (detailing my experiences in the entertainment industry and my experiences working with Netflix), and confirming that it had been reported maliciously and falsely.

This is not the first time they've confirmed that my posts defending Meghan are being subject to malicious mass-false reporting.

I was also happy to see MNHQ post confirming that one of the Meghan bashers who was engaging in personal abuse of me and other posters, was a banned troll pretending to be a new poster.

Certain posters on the 'banned' forum have openly bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ via malicious abuse of the report system.

Really glad someone else agrees that it's a problem.

Not sure who or what you are talking about. Can you give examples of where anyone has bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ from a 'banned' forum. What is a banned forum.

I keep seeing references to what people are saying and doing elsewhere but no-one actually says what is being said or who is saying it.

@froggygoneacourting
Certain posters on the 'banned' forum have openly bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ via malicious abuse of the report system.

I can't believe this is true froggy. Do you have any links/proof to substantiate this accusation?

The Daily Beast? Never heard of it. Is it like Blind Gossip and CDAN?
Its a US website, focusing mainly on US politics and it employs political analysts and journalists. The last editor worked for CNN and also wrote political speeches. The founder has a CBE for journalism amd 4 George Polk awards.

We seem to have lots of comments on here about the other forum, although from what I gather it’s always the same few who bring it up and always to claim those who post on there are against them, their views or actions. In order to know this, they seem to be the ones who are on the other forum rather than the vast majority of the posters yet it’s the vast majority who are being maligned of it. These posters need to be reporting direct to MN, which they can do by email with screenshots, rather than using it as a way of derailing and attempting to gain sympathy or to stir here.

This is not the first time they've confirmed that my posts defending Meghan are being subject to malicious mass-false reporting.

I was also happy to see MNHQ post confirming that one of the Meghan bashers who was engaging in personal abuse of me and other posters, was a banned troll pretending to be a new poster.

Certain posters on the 'banned' forum have openly bragged about lying and attempting to manipulate MNHQ via malicious abuse of the report system.

I cannot believe this is true. I have previously reported posts (not on this thread nor regarding a 'banned forum' - whatever that may be), MNHQ made it very clear that they do not take action on information provided from or about other sites. I'm sure that they won't mind me copy and pasting part of that email as confirmation. After all, I don't think MNHQ would take kindly to misinformation being spread about them.

As you can probably appreciate, we're not able to take action based on information from other social media sites - we can only moderate based on what's posted here on Mumsnet.

@Flube

Not wishing to derail further; I am not surprised to hear the news that FF can be included as evidence in the court case.

The judge has been pretty clear, previously, that M was likely feeding information to Scobie. I do wonder about Carolyn Durand. As co-author of a bestseller, I find it surprising that we haven't heard from her.

Her Twitter still seems to be quite full of the RF and H&M retweets but she doesn’t seem to have much of a public face or opinion on anything that I can find in recent searches.

I would hope ANL would call her in for questioning to see if she corroborates with Omid Scobie.

Just to point out, I have name changed, not for nefarious means, but because I fancied a change.

Flube raises an interesting point in their last post. Where IS Carolyn Durand? Why have we not heard from her?

Is it possible she's now trying to distance herself from the absolute car crash that Finding Freedom is, which would then beg the question, why did she co-author it in the first place?

I've always been of the opinion, that despite the incredibly carefully worded declarations that they had nothing to do with it, that some of the stuff contained within the book, have to have come directly from someone incredibly close.

And because this forum doesnt have an edit function:

@SunbathingDragon I had noticed this about her twitter too, its full of Royal tweets, but nothing else of interest or substance, with exception of maybe 4 tweets throughout September, the rest of it seems to be just retweets covering not just Harry and Meghan, but also there are some about William and Catherine.

Her Twitter still seems to be quite full of the RF and H&M retweets but she doesn’t seem to have much of a public face or opinion on anything that I can find in recent searches.

I confess that I have not looked at her Twitter. But Scobie seems to be wheeled out on all topics HaM. As the judge noted, he is often up to date and the first to know on all things HaM.

In reality it is almost as if he is presented as the sole author. Carolyn does not get a mention. Ever. Her absence is notable, and frankly peculiar.

Imo, TeflonTits could be on to something with this;

Is it possible she's now trying to distance herself from the absolute car crash that Finding Freedom is, which would then beg the question, why did she co-author it in the first place?

*he is the first to know all the goings on of H and M.

What is really interesting on this thread is the name changers. Some of them have such a distinctive style it is easy to recognise them. Or call me poirot

I read the tatler interview with Scobie today - hmmm, not sure it was as positive for him as he thought.

Surely there would be something legal in place to stop them using videos of the RF? Thats a huge invasion of privacy!

Sprry Im a bit behind that was in response to a post made by Vivienne at 8:30 this morn... the page has just reloaded and brought up more replies since.

I wonder how Scobie now feels about Meghan's team saying that the book is "inaccurate and anodyne"? That's a bit of a slap. He's insistent in interviews that it is all true.