Harry and Meghan, the one where every poster respects each other.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8750345/Prince-Harry-joined-helicopter-club-California-Meghan-Archie-trips.html

Online presence == active web forum DURH

Are you always this rude and unpleasant?

Totally this ^

It's not a case of .... hey, Gran, we're just gonna be Harry & Meghan now OK... it's a massive thing.

@froggygoneacourting

I’ve never read People or visited the People website. I was under the impression People was a magazine, not a message board.

Why haven't they?

1. It would take an Act of Parliament.
2. It would be perceived as snubbing the Queen and would lead to a tidal wave of bad press and negativity.
3. Reportedly the Queen strongly wishes for them not to, due to the precedent it would set for Andrew.

If the Queen wanted them to not have titles anymore then they wouldn’t have them.

With all due respect , this is not true , where are you getting you facts? Yes to forcefully remove the titles takes an act of parliament, they can renounce them themselves very easily. I doubt HMQ would care at this point!

Like Her Maj would really care that Harry and Meghan would be used publicly instead of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Right.

It’s extremely disrespectful for posters to overrule the Queen and dictate what the Queen thinks and wants.

I thought you were all about respecting the monarchy?

Obviously not.

, Froggy. Oh no, you are correct - magazine don't have online presences with active comment sections. Feel better now?

Parliament has to act for this to happen. It's not a case of just Harry ringing Gran and saying we are not Duke and Duchess anymore

@froggygoneacourting

It’s extremely disrespectful for posters to overrule the Queen and dictate what the Queen thinks and wants.

I thought you were all about respecting the monarchy?

Obviously not.

What ! Now? I don't know what the queen wants , these are personal opinions, I have know idea what your on about!

I am an American citizen and a republican - please indicate whereh I shown support for the monarchy. Truly .

 Many posters have made their republicanism very clear. That's why so many of us have a problem with the apparent mis-use of royal privileges.

Mominatrix not sure why you keep harping in about People.

1. I said web forums. People is not a webforum and does not have any forums (I checked).
2. Like I said, prior to today I’d never read People or visited the People website.

You sound weirdly obsessed with positioning yourself as the voice of the “average American” and speaking on behalf of 330 million people.

I really don’t understand your extreme aggression and hostility. Very bizarre behaviour.

@Roussette

Parliament has to act for this to happen. It's not a case of just Harry ringing Gran and saying we are not Duke and Duchess anymore

An Act of Parliament is needed for H&M to use their own names? Okay then

Many posters have made their republicanism very clear.

Then how come the Meghan-bashing threads are often also Kate-workshop / Queen-worship threads, and erupt into mass outrage and abuse whenever anyone voices even the slightest criticism or negative opinion of any other royal?

Not bizzarre - I just don't understand why you, not being an American, think that you think it completely normal and acceptable that someone not born to a title but a US citizen, would use that tile to gain political clout in the US.

Please explain why you are so trenchant on this view. The fact that you cannot understand the insult it would cause is more a reflection on you than on me. I don't know you and apologise if you find my Yankee Affront to be hostile, but you must certainly acknowledge somewhere inside yourself that foreign inherited unearned privedge dicating to a republican nation which fought(albeit many year ago) to rid itself of the said inherited institution is incongruous.

An Act of Parliament is needed for H&M to use their own names? Okay then

Did I say that. No.
To have their titles removed is what I said.
And to repeat again...
they can't help it if a news article refers to them as Duke and Duchess. And as I said before more than once, no doubt when they don't have titles, they'll still be called this

TBH, without titles they will probably be known as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

It's interesting when you think about who this message is supposed to be aimed at. Their hook/USP is their connection to the BRF. That's why they've clung on to the titles and use them in a country which prides itself on being a meritocracy.

If their target audience are the cool liberals, under 50's, people concerned about women's and LGBT rights, it jars using those titles. They're an anachronism and a symbol of a culture that America famously decided wasn't for them. How can you be taken seriously by these people when your profile is based on a title and a fortune courtesy of your Nan?

On the flip side, the people who would be impressed by titles are maybe more likely to be a bit older, more conservative, more comfortable with class distinctions, they aren't going to be swayed by their comments on voting.

I think as time goes on the only thing they have that will give them any credibility is announcing that they're no longer using those titles. And stop suing everyone.

froggygoneacourting where have you read that HM doesn’t want them to give up their titles ?
Andrew is a separate issue . I doubt if you will find anyone on here who would support him and my own view is that he is an arrogant , despicable person however he is lying low and I doubt if we will see him in public anytime soon .
H and M however are using their connections to further their money making plans.
It would not need an act of Parliament; all they have to do is advise that they are no longer Duke and Duchess but Harry and Meghan Mountbatten- Windsor / Markle .

Yes I agree Mominatrix, that is what I think they will be known as

I've no idea how Americans view Prince Harry having a voice on voting in the USA but, as a Brit, I feel he's stepped out of line. I would feel the same way if the equivalent of a minor royal in the USA (George Clooney?) came over and told us that our vote mattered - I'd think, who the fuck are you to poke your nose in?

And all this is because an American woman is encouraging her fellow americans to use their right to vote
You couldn't make it up. You really couldn't

I doubt if you will find anyone on here who would support him

There have been plenty of posts on MN from people supporting him, and outright calling Virginia Giuffre a liar, a slut, accusing her of making up the allegations for attention, of lying for financial gain, lots of "well she wasn't a child why didn't she just leave" type comments. Plenty of comments saying she was over 16 so it's not child rape. Plenty of comments saying how was he to know she was trafficked, or that the sex was consensual.

There was one thread that had an entire discussion analysing the skin tone of his hand in the photo of them together, from posters attempting to prove that it was a fake photo someone had photoshopped Andrew's face onto and that there was no proof he'd ever met Andrew.

Those posters are in the minority but they definitely exist, sadly.