Harry and Meghan, the one where every poster respects each other.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8750345/Prince-Harry-joined-helicopter-club-California-Meghan-Archie-trips.html

Harry said “Reject hate speech” which apparently is an outrageous and offensive statement.

Remember when Obama lobbied British voters not to vote for Brexit? And Trump lobbied voters to vote for Brexit?

def Tone Deafness: having or showing an obtuse insensitivity or lack of perception particularly in matters of public sentiment, opinion, or taste The White House long ago concluded that she is aloof and politically tone-deaf …

I believe that those people who think it is perfectly OK for people with foreign Royal titles to use them to lecture people politically of another country which is not the same as the source of the titles they use would qualify as tone deaf.

Have you seen the 2 minute clip?

Hardly a lecture by any stretch of the imagination

Picking at words...

You might perceive it as valuable message spreading, an American does not.

@froggygoneacourting, and don't you remember what the overwhelming British sentiment to those actions where? Rightly so.

You might perceive it as valuable message spreading, an American does not.

One single American. You are hardly the only American in the world, and not the only American on MN.

@Roussette, yes the Time ones. The early adverts wrote Harry and Meghan and they were later amended to say The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

I appreciate that you as an American does not consider it valuable message spreading. That is your right.

@froggygoneacourting

Harry said “Reject hate speech” which apparently is an outrageous and offensive statement.

Remember when Obama lobbied British voters not to vote for Brexit? And Trump lobbied voters to vote for Brexit?

Yes I remember feeling very angry with both of them ! Particularly Obama for his comment, neither had any business as non U.K. citizens!

Not just me, you should take a gander on US platforms and see what the average American has to say.

@Mominatrix they did not go down at all well

I asked Mominatrix if they got their titles amended to say this on the Time blurb you refer to ... was it an article encouraging voting?
Obviously not

Mominatrix

How tone deaf is it for 2 people who insist on being called the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (originally they were being called Harry and Meghan and Time received a complaint about this and so it was changed to the Duke and Duchess of S), one who is not even a permanent resident of the US to call Americans to vote? To top it off, the Doofus was inaccurate on his voting status in his home country (there is no bar on the 6th in line to the throne to vote, it is only unconstitutional for the Monarch to vote). Makes my teeth itch!

Apologies if I have missed this but who complained to Time ? Was it H and M?

I encourage everyone to use their democratic right to vote but it is not acceptable for members of the BRF to get involved in politics !

I have read the Time article on this and the ABCnetwork and the comments undereneath on Twitter. Seems split to me.

They are called everything from hypocrites to heroes and most of my engagement on Twitter is me following and being followed by US subjects.

@Rousette? Not certain what you mean? Why should it matter if it was an article or how they are being presented to state their blurb? Either way, it is demonstrating how THEY wish to be perceived, and it has been made evident that they don't want to be known as Citizen Meghan and Harry, but (HRH doncha know)The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Very unlikely that Time would have changed it if H&M had asked for their titles not to be used

Not just me, you should take a gander on US platforms and see what the average American has to say.

No such thing as “the average American.” 330 million people live in the US, and within that 330 million is enormous diversity of both background and belief. Within such a huge number of people you will always find extremes of opinion on just about any subject.

All the US forums I’m on, all the American posters are very positive towards and are applauding this statement.

Not specified who complained, but enough to push TIME mag to change. Prob Sunshine Sachs, the PR agency for h&M, but that is only my thinking.

You said it was an early Time advert. Not now. And not about encouraging voting

Which ones, froggy? People Mag?

This argument wouldn't need to be had , if they only renounced their titles and positions!
Why haven't they?
Then we can all move on.

Early time mag advert for their top 100 tv show (incidentally, M&H are not on the list so not sure why they even made a blurb. How strange). Why insist to a US audience to be called the Duke and Duchess instead of Harry and Meghan?

I’ve never read People or visited the People website. I was under the impression People was a magazine, not a message board.

Why haven't they?

1. It would take an Act of Parliament.
2. It would be perceived as snubbing the Queen and would lead to a tidal wave of bad press and negativity.
3. Reportedly the Queen strongly wishes for them not to, due to the precedent it would set for Andrew.

If the Queen wanted them to not have titles anymore then they wouldn’t have them.

Magazines, just as newspapers, have on line presences (DURH!).