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Play nicely and don’t say anything that will get your post (or the thread) deleted. I’ll start. Archie is cute and it would be lovely to see him more often.

I wouldn't have said that Meghan had a particularly high profile in the USA?

Btw I get why she wants to speak out. She cares about her country, which is in a very worrying situation right now. Trump could lose and try to claim the election was rigged. However you can't have a royal title and speak out.

MNHQ can't state they're worried about lawsuits because that could become a story in itself. But there are many posts that have been deleted that wouldn't pass any threshold for legal action; that don't even discuss H&M directly. Plus, if there were posts that prompted legal action, MN would do what it has done in the past which iirc is pass the poster's details to the relevant authority that requested them.

The politics issue is interesting. Twitter is full of sussex squad posters that genuinely don't understand why Royals can't comment on politics or H&M's current status and funding. Of course, their lack of knowledge doesn't stop them having loud, aggressive opinions

I wonder what H&M's aim is in pushing at all these boundaries. Their actions have the potential to damage the RF and I don't understand why they would want to do that. I can't decide if they are being badly advised or just don't care ...

I think Meghan simply doesn't see or acknowledge the problem. She has been thrust from relative obscurity onto the world stage because of royal status which is nothing to do with elections or voting. Not to mention access to totally unearned wealth and priveledge.And is the very antithesis of equality and fairness. And now from that lofty position she wants to campaign for those very things.

I also think that a lot of private security firms are inadequate and don't have the experience to manage the security for the DS, DIL, GS of the future King

I take your point, but Beatrice and Eugenie seem to do okay without royal security staff and they're grandkids of the current monarch. Admittedly they're not full time working members of the RF, but then neither are H&M any more

@Puzzledandpissedoff yy I was thinking about B&E since they also both lived/worked in the US at one point. But I think if Archie was in his 30s and in the US, security wouldn't be as big an issue.
H is different from B&E. They are DDs of someone who is never going to inherit the throne but H is DS and DB of people who will (barring a tragedy) inherit.

@Viviennemary

I think Meghan simply doesn't see or acknowledge the problem. She has been thrust from relative obscurity onto the world stage because of royal status which is nothing to do with elections or voting. Not to mention access to totally unearned wealth and priveledge.And is the very antithesis of equality and fairness. And now from that lofty position she wants to campaign for those very things.

I don't think we should be prejudiced against anyone for their wealth. Indeed, if a person has great wealth they have freedom to do more and speak out than others.

Meghan was already very well off before she married royalty and she was a very well known up and coming actress in America. She gave up a lot for love, I do not think money has much to do with it. There is a great deal she and Harry can do regarding social issues.

Personally I think MM gained more from the marriage than she gave up. She had one supporting part in Suits...not imo an up and coming actress , they tend to be younger.

Meghan was already very well off before she married royalty and she was a very well known up and coming actress in America.

"Well off" is relative. She was not well-known, and as a pp said, up and coming usually refers to younger actors.

I'd say she wasn't very well off in the global sense. She wasn't up and coming in fact rather on her way out as far as acting is concerned. Approaching 40 the likelihood of rise to mega stardom was nigh impossible.

@Wheresthebeach

Personally I think MM gained more from the marriage than she gave up. She had one supporting part in Suits...not imo an up and coming actress , they tend to be younger.

I disagree, early thirties is still very young, it's the age at which the careers of many actors take off and Meghan was popular in the States. What she gained from her marriage was being with the man she loved but her life was full as an actress, she was earning a lot too.

@Viviennemary

I'd say she wasn't very well off in the global sense. She wasn't up and coming in fact rather on her way out as far as acting is concerned. Approaching 40 the likelihood of rise to mega stardom was nigh impossible.

She's is approaching 40 now but wasn't when she met Harry. For goodness sakes, look at her. She is a lovely young woman and had she stayed an actress, would be much in demand and gradually becoming better known outside of the USA.

The main problem is that nobody appears to have explained to Meghan the role of the UK constitutional monarchy & how the Royal Family must stay impartial within politics (or try their best to do so) or maybe explanation & advice was given but ignored.

@TracyBeakerSoYeah

The main problem is that nobody appears to have explained to Meghan the role of the UK constitutional monarchy & how the Royal Family must stay impartial within politics (or try their best to do so) or maybe explanation & advice was given but ignored.

I agree. I can see why this situation would be difficult for anyone who is politically aware and wants to be involved but it is what royal status requires.

@ jessstan2 I think you are pushing the “ young” woman a bit ! I agree she is a lovely looking articulate woman however no one I know had ever heard of her ( including friends and family in the US and Canada) until she met H so the amazing career you imagine would have happened isn’t my view but we can agree to differ .
If M wishes to become involved in politics she must give up her Duchess of Sussex title and revert to Meghan Markle ir take her husband’s name - Mountbatten- Windsor although I cannot imagine that would sit well with some a confirmed feminist.

I was wondering what I would do if I suddenly joined the RF hugely unlikely as that is 😃 I'd find it difficult not to have an opinion on politics. My family have always been very political.
But lots of the RF tread that fine line so I think it's possible to support change and tread the apolitical tightrope. Sophie's trip to Sudan was a good example.

@jesstan2

I disagree, early thirties is still very young, it's the age at which the careers of many actors take off and Meghan was popular in the States. What she gained from her marriage was being with the man she loved but her life was full as an actress, she was earning a lot too.
Apart from Suits (which may have been popular in the USA), I don't see that being in 'Deal or No Deal' and one-off episodes of various series and a rather creepy interview by Craig Ferguson provides a springboard for a great acting career. If a female actor hasn't found her niche by the mid-thirties then she may have peaked - sexual equality in the TV and film industry lags behind somewhat particularly when you may be remembered as a promotional model. She may have recognised that the time to concentrate on her humanitarian aims was fast approaching so going on that blind date with PH was timely.

“Meghan was already very well off before she married royalty and she was a very well known up and coming actress in America. She gave up a lot for love, I do not think money has much to do with it. There is a great deal she and Harry can do regarding social issues.“

Sorry, but 😂😂😂 you can’t be serious about any of this?
Yes everyone is allowed to have an opinion but this is just mad.

“Meghan was already very well off before she married royalty and she was a very well known up and coming actress in America. She gave up a lot for love, I do not think money has much to do with it

You sound like you are confusing her with Grace Kelly! Meghan had achieved great success by the standards of the industry in the US, absolutely (it's a brutal world out there, and you need not just looks and talent but a big dose of luck to achieve a regular tv role as she did) but in her mid-30s and playing a role that started off as an ingenue meant her future prospects were probably looking limited. Hence, no doubt, her efforts to position herself as a blogger and influencer (no shade here, I think she probably read which way the wind was blowing quite accurately). What has given her global name and face recognition, and the platform she now wants to use, was marrying a senior member of the royal family. I imagine there is an awful lot she wants to do with that level of fame and access, but unfortunately for her it comes with restrictions attached.

She certainly wasn't in the multi million dollar 16 bathroom league. Nor mixing in the George Clooney league.

she was a very well known up and coming actress in America.

How can you be both well known and up an coming? Oxymoron surely.

Like being a royal and a political activist for equality.

This may not be true ( read it on Twitter) but apparently H and M took a private flight to undertake the latest charity work and took their own photographer and PR agent.