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The royal family

Harry and Meghan News thread

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Viviennemary · 04/08/2020 09:13

I thought we could have a thread for latest news. MN did say they didn't mind one or two threads. And no rules except stick to MN guidelines. It's Meghans birthday today I just read. And the Queen has wished her a very happy birthday on the royal Instagram page according to that popular Oracle the DM.

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SunbathingDragon · 11/08/2020 14:32

[quote Serenster]The Telegraph doesn't treat the book any more kindly (which they might have hoped for?), calling it a massive moanathon – a one-sided, highly biased, self-pitying account of the relationship.

Like so many rich and famous people used to getting their way, they’re astonished when they don’t. Harry tells a friend, “I’m tired of people covering engagements and then going off to write some rubbish about what someone is wearing.”

In their pampered bubble – sashimi is delivered to their cottage at Soho Farmhouse; they sit by an open fire tended by a butler at Babington House, Somerset – they can’t bring themselves to defer to the royal system that delivers those privileges.

At their crucial Sandringham meeting with the Queen, “Harry felt as though he and Meghan had long been sidelined by the institution and were not a fundamental part of its future.” That was reflected, he thought, in the pictures on the Queen’s desk in her Christmas message: the Cambridges and their children, Charles and Camilla, Philip and George VI, but nothing of the Sussexes or their baby son.

They wanted a future as semi-working royals – having their cake, eating it and not accepting the diminishing returns you get the further you get from the throne. The Queen made it clear it wouldn’t work.

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Well summed up to me in this sentence here But if you’re looking for offence, you’ll always find it.

MangoFeverDream · 11/08/2020 14:37

Apparently someone named Jessie Webb came out of retirement when PG was a few weeks old. I knew it was one of PW’s nannies

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419604/amp/Prince-William-hires-old-nanny-Jessie-Webb-George.html

YouSayWhat · 11/08/2020 14:52

That Telegraph excerpt is brilliant.

Oldbutstillgotit · 11/08/2020 14:57

Is there anything further about Tiaragate ?

Viviennemary · 11/08/2020 15:08

I got looking up some tiaras last night. One article (old) said the Spencer tiara was a possibility. Wrong. It's only for Spencer women. Also said it hadn't seen the light of day since Diana wore it at her wedding. Also wrong. Diana's niece wore it not long ago. Why don't these people check their facts. I think it was the Express.

But my take on the Meghan tiara gate shenanigans is this. She wanted the Vladimir which is too grand for sixth in lines wedding so it was refused. And Eugenie had already chosen the other emerald one. FWIW I thought the tiara Meghan wore looked very nice indeed and suited her really well.

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SunbathingDragon · 11/08/2020 15:36

I thought Meghan’s tiara was stunning and looked lovely on her for her wedding.

I’ve just seen an article saying Meghan has publicly announced she will be voting in the 2020 election (which is against royal protocol) but since she has stepped down and, as far as I’m aware, hasn’t said who she is voting for (although her previously made her dislike of Trump clear so I think an assumption on her likely party can be made) I don’t see why this would be an issue.

Although they are apolitical, surely the RF can and potentially do vote even if they don’t publish this.

LaMarschallin · 11/08/2020 16:00

Harry and Meghan (or Meg, as he calls her) was one of the bits in the Telegraph article that made me smile.

I wondered if they were remembering "H as I call him".

JaJaDingDong · 11/08/2020 16:11

At their crucial Sandringham meeting with the Queen, “Harry felt as though he and Meghan had long been sidelined by the institution and were not a fundamental part of its future.”

Well they aren't, are they?

DorisLessingsLesson · 11/08/2020 16:37

It all seems a bit declasse. The breathless descriptions of gated holiday villas and private jets; the details about staying with the Clooney's; the Queen gifting earrings to M; the mean-spiritedness about the lovely photo released for Prince Charles' birthday. How foolish of them to have removed themselves from the source of similar exclusives. Hmm

Eaumyword · 11/08/2020 16:44

The Royals don't vote due to their requirement to show impartiality. This is according to iNews anyway. Apparently nothing in the law/constitution for them to vote or not vote, but they don't do it traditionally out of support for the Monarch, who must work with the successful PM whatever party they represent.
Oh lordy, surely H&M weren't offended by the photo frames of the direct in line heirs during the Christmas message? That would be truly nutty and self absorbed if they were, especially as HMQ other grandchildren weren't shown either (Zara, Peter, Beatrice, Eugenie, James, Louise.)
I'm sure she's got enough room in all of her palaces and castles to display photo's of all of her grandchildren/great grandchildren and probably does. This is once again a necessary separation between family life and work life...

Oldbutstillgotit · 11/08/2020 17:07

DM are really drip feeding excerpts from FF. latest is a swipe at K and W having live in staff . Apparently H and M wanted to go to bed at night knowing it was just the 3 of them in the house . Presumably apart from security .

SunbathingDragon · 11/08/2020 17:12

@Oldbutstillgotit

DM are really drip feeding excerpts from FF. latest is a swipe at K and W having live in staff . Apparently H and M wanted to go to bed at night knowing it was just the 3 of them in the house . Presumably apart from security .
I’d rather go to bed in my own house with a load of live in staff (who presumably have their own quarters) than be effectively mansion sofa surfing.

Besides, they fired their night nanny on her second night so presumably they didn’t always go to bed being alone in the house but either decided a night nanny wasn’t for them after trying one (or more) out rather than always being against it. Clearly having live in staff is fine for William which is entirely up to him - just like it wasn’t an issue for Harry for the first thirty of years of his life!

Oldbutstillgotit · 11/08/2020 17:14

FF also states that Eugenie was upset that M’s pregnancy was announced at her wedding . Eugenie felt that the news could have waited . According to FF , M was already showing so she wanted to avoid speculation.

Viviennemary · 11/08/2020 17:21

Meghan was not 'showing'. She was around eight weeks at the time I read the other day. It was a low trick and Fergie and co had every right to be annoyed. Who wears an unbuttoned maternity coat at 8 weeks.

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Oldbutstillgotit · 11/08/2020 17:24

Totally agree Viviennemary. The coat was ridiculous.

ThaGugaBlasta · 11/08/2020 17:35

The most egregious suggestion of all is that HM 'gifted' Meghan a pair of diamond and pearl earrings. My dear! As if! [pearl clutch emoji - where IS the pearl clutch face, incidentally, MN?]

SunbathingDragon · 11/08/2020 17:47

@Oldbutstillgotit

FF also states that Eugenie was upset that M’s pregnancy was announced at her wedding . Eugenie felt that the news could have waited . According to FF , M was already showing so she wanted to avoid speculation.
Meghan on tour in October 2018, after the wedding. I don’t think it’s true or fair to say she was showing a pregnancy at that time, when she would have been around two months.

The argument that they announced at the wedding so as not to overshadow their tour is also not true because they didn’t publicly announce until 15th October and that was the same day their tour began. 15th October is also International Pregnancy and Baby Loss Day so considering the pregnancy didn’t need to be announced it was a tactless day to choose and one PR would have been expected to advise against.

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LittleBearPad · 11/08/2020 18:19

The wedding coat stunt, as that’s what it was, was just mean.

lifestooshort123 · 11/08/2020 18:54

I must have overeaten. I want to vomit 🤮

milveycrohn · 11/08/2020 18:54

@SunbathingDragon

As far as I know the RF do not vote in UK elections because the Queen is the Head of State. Prince Harry (and obviously Meghan, but she may not have understood this), seems to have forgotten that the Queen has a constitutional role, albeit, a smallish one.
Every week, the Prime Minister has a private meeting with the Queen, and presumably updates her. The meetings are confidential, so it is never known if she ever offers advice, or is just an ear, etc.
As Head of State, the Queen will have to work with Prime Ministers of any political party, and who she may dislike, and may dislike the policies, so it is always considered best if they remain apolitical, although sometimes their beliefs may be revealed in what they say etc.
As Head of State, the Queen is obliged to host visiting heads, such as Trump, Idi Amin, etc, host banquets, on behalf of the Government.
So, as you can see, it could become very awkward, if it were revealed she had a different political opinion.
As regards the photographs on the desk, I understodd they are rotated, and different ones are sometimes there.

SunbathingDragon · 11/08/2020 19:03

[quote milveycrohn]@SunbathingDragon

As far as I know the RF do not vote in UK elections because the Queen is the Head of State. Prince Harry (and obviously Meghan, but she may not have understood this), seems to have forgotten that the Queen has a constitutional role, albeit, a smallish one.
Every week, the Prime Minister has a private meeting with the Queen, and presumably updates her. The meetings are confidential, so it is never known if she ever offers advice, or is just an ear, etc.
As Head of State, the Queen will have to work with Prime Ministers of any political party, and who she may dislike, and may dislike the policies, so it is always considered best if they remain apolitical, although sometimes their beliefs may be revealed in what they say etc.
As Head of State, the Queen is obliged to host visiting heads, such as Trump, Idi Amin, etc, host banquets, on behalf of the Government.
So, as you can see, it could become very awkward, if it were revealed she had a different political opinion.
As regards the photographs on the desk, I understodd they are rotated, and different ones are sometimes there.[/quote]
Totally agree it could be awkward but I wonder at what stage it’s deemed ok to vote eg the top ten in line can’t or the top 100 can’t. Zenouska Mowatt is 59th in line so does it still apply?

Serenster · 11/08/2020 19:04

As regards the photographs on the desk, I understodd they are rotated, and different ones are sometimes there.

I went and looked through the last 10 years or so of Christmas broadcasts earlier when this came up, and George VI and Prince Phillip were by far the most featured photos. Many family members featured, including her grandparents George V and Queen Mary in 2014 (they were the monarchs when WWI started in 1914) but grandchildren other than William, rarely.

Viviennemary · 11/08/2020 19:10

Considering she hasn't even seen her own Father for around three years. And he wasn't a priority to visit before the wedding. It is a bit rich of them to moan about bring snubbed because their photo wasn't on the Queens desk.

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MissEliza · 11/08/2020 19:42

OMG those quotes in the DM. It's just too much 🤮.
It seems to me the book is extremely complimentary to the Queen and PC because they still hold the purse strings. It's not a great long term plan though not to try to build bridges with PW.

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