Princess Beatrice is Married!

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Daily Mail reports they have privately married at Windsor Castle.

Lovely news if true.

I hope they have a lifetime of love and happiness.

Anne got married in Scotland exactly for that reason.

LOL Harper's trying to spot the similarity between Bea's dress and Sarah's. Spoiler. They are totally different! 😂

www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a33359438/princess-beatrice-wedding-dress-compared-fergie/

Re comments on HMQ wanting the dress back, I can't imagine that she will want it returned. It is probably Beas Something Old. The tiara will be Something Borrowed.

Regards HMQ attending second weddings, MM was the first in a CoE.
MM was also baptised just before the wedding so there could be some odd CoE rules that they don't recognize weddings before baptism or outwith CoE. So the Church maybe didn't fully recognize her first marriage.
Keeping HMQ on the right side of church tradition, rules and beliefs.

The Queen was 5ft 4in tall when younger. Margaret was said to be 5ft 1in, but in the 1960s she was generally thought to be barely 5ft zero. (Nothing wrong with that, she was petite and very beautiful). You can see the difference in their height in photographs of them together in young adulthood. And also in photos of Margaret with her husband Tony, who was a very attractive 5ft 5in.

LOL FannyCann you are so right about the Harper's "Bizarre" article - her dress is nothing like Sarah's!

Here' another pic of the Queen wearing the dress originally. Interestingly it doesn't say it's the dress worn to the State Opening of Parliament like the press said yesterday, but that it was worn at a State dinner at the British Embassy in Rome in 1961. And it was a puffball !
(I had a puffball skirt in the 80s, it was probably the most unflattering item of clothing I've ever had )

I know - the contortions to drag her in are something to behold

Honestly, the "dragging her" is all in your mind. I have said nothing critical of Meghan at all, but rather was pointing out that based on the Queen's own past actions it likely wasn't a straightforward decision for her to attend the wedding. But guess what - she did! Which was, to my mind, a good thing, not a bad. Somehow though you feel the need to contort that to me criticising the bride...

Pics won't link. Article won't link. MN or my laptop playing up this morning. Have tried countless times, giving up.

"In Scotland it is acceptable to have a second wedding in a church so there was no conflict."

It's possible to have a 2nd church wedding in England.

It wasn’t at the time Anne married.

@KatherineParr4

It wasn’t at the time Anne married.

I think it might have been, but maybe she found it easier just to marry in Scotland?

When Princess Anne remarried, the Church of Scotland was happy to solemnise second marriages of divorcees

CofE didn't at that time (I remember the chuntering) so it was a neat sidestep.

CofE these days allows it at clergy's discretion, and it seems to be exercised very widely these days.

Anne married Tim in 1992.
According to BBC website it was only in 2002 that the General Synod, the church's (ie Church of England) legislative body, allowed remarriage in church of divorced people whose former partners were still alive, in "exceptional circumstances".

"CofE didn't at that time (I remember the chuntering) so it was a neat sidestep."

Yes it did.

A friend of mine married a divorce in the late 80s.

They had to get permission from the bishop of the diocese, as did I in the mid 90s.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Princess_Royal

It’s explained here

Yes, with bishops permission has always existed.

But that was only for abandoned spouses, or the faithful spouse where there had been adultery. There had been no abandonment, and both had had affairs (though IIRC, only Anne's was known about at the time, his all came out later?) No chance of a (then rarely granted) bishop's licence in those circs, so best left alone.

Blackbear MM had converted to judaism for her first marriage.
( I assume she then converted to C of E for her second ?)

@SirVixofVixHall

Blackbear MM had converted to judaism for her first marriage. ( I assume she then converted to C of E for her second ?)

She never converted to Judaism. Her husband was Jewish and they had a Jewish ceremony, but she never converted. She was confirmed into the CoE but even then it wasn’t a requirement.

"No chance of a (then rarely granted) bishop's licence in those circs, so best left alone."

I wonder if having had children has a bearing as well?

HM is head of the C of E which has different rules etc. In Scotland it is acceptable to have a second wedding in a church so there was no conflict

You put it much better than I did, but yes that's about it ... HMQ could easily go to Anne's second marriage because it took place in a church "system" that she's NOT head of

Didn’t Princess Margaret threaten to do that (get married in C Of S) to marry Peter Townsend?

@Saucery

Didn’t Princess Margaret threaten to do that (get married in C Of S) to marry Peter Townsend?

Probably depends on when she discovered what she'd have to give up to marry him!

As a child I remember my Mum always used to say 'the should have let her marry Peter Townsend'.

I think it was only in later years that the public knew the ultimatum given to Margaret, ie. marry him but give up your HRH and all that goes with it. It was a choice she made. I always wonder if the initial appeal was the 'forbidden' and 'older man', and actually their marriage would have faced real challenges just 'living an ordinary life'.

Yes, very much that, diddl ! I’m only basing it on what I saw on The Crown but I think it was floated as an idea that would work, but still cut her off from just about everything else she valued.

I always wonder if the initial appeal was the 'forbidden' and 'older man', and actually their marriage would have faced real challenges just 'living an ordinary life'

This has always been my own view too ... it's one thing creating attention and drama (which Margaret often did) and quite another living with the consequences

Like so many of that ghastly family she was just one more who expected everything her own way, all the time, and threw a strop if she didn't get it